Secularism, by definition means separating religion from state. So any laws based on religion would be against secularism, right?
Conversion is a Christian tenet, so a secular government should protect the right of Christians to convert people? You insinuated that you are not a real Indian if you don't oppose cow slaughter. You also said that you think it's idiotic that we kill cows that give milk but buffaloes do too, yet here you are, arguing cow killing is not ok because it's a religious belief.
I absolutely detest politics and that's why I rarely post in these threads. The others are doing a decent job of pointing out the fallacies in your argument, I'm not going to stress myself into having a stroke by trying to answer such posts. As a parting remark, bakra literally translates to cow in Arabic, therefore the animal to be slaughtered at Bakra Eid would be...
Just think of all the tasty mozzarella that India could export if they didn't export buffalo meat instead.
Christians do have a right to convert people, except in Jharkhand and Arunachal Pradesh. Just like cows are protected everywhere except for Kerala/West Bengal. And can you quote me where I insinuated that you aren't Indian if you dont oppose cow slaughter.All I see is a point where I was trying to illustrate how different states make their own laws and you started attacking me. And if you're pointing to the post where I asked if you're indian, that was a genuine request for information, most Indians would know that Hindus are opposed to cow slaughter. Is that why you're sore? I mean there was a post in another thread where there was a guy talking about respecting each others beliefs and heres you showing how little you respect any other religions beliefs.
No, you ignoramus. Bakri Eid is known as Eid Al Adha outside the Indian subcontinent. Its called bakri id in India-Pakistan because muslims kill goats(bakri in hindi/urdu) in that festival to emulate the sacrifice of Issac. I believe you aren't even a muslim, get educated about their beliefs before being offended on their behalf.
Not the point anyway, you're just another religious bigot who keeps generalising and ignoring valid points raised by others. You keep harping on about how all Hindus are opposed to cow slaughter, guess what? You don't speak for all of them. Anyway, I'm done with this.
It is not. Vedic scriptures mention hindus feasting beef. A good portion of hindus not residing in north India even today consume beef and have done so for centuries! Why would they do so openly if it was against there own religion ?
It has been, that's why its absurd. However, the whole concept of UCC is not to have specific laws catering to different communities. That's why triple talaq will be binned unless its scope is widened to include abandonment by hindus because since TT has been abolished to it amounts to abandonment only without any actual divorce taking place. But this will never happen because then modi could be prosecuted
These are the kind of feudal people who would have still committed the offense even if she had complained against them under 498A instead of triple talaq. There are numerous such instances for that also.
That makes sense now. Its gonna be interesting to seeIt has been, that's why its absurd. However, the whole concept of UCC is not to have specific laws catering to different communities. That's why triple talaq will be binned unless its scope is widened to include abandonment by hindus because since TT has been abolished to it amounts to abandonment only without any actual divorce taking place. But this will never happen because then modi could be prosecuted
Per both Hindu and Muslim laws in India, abandonment/desertion (for 2 years) is one of the grounds to seek divorce. Don't understand your point.
Consider the following situation:
It's a stupid rule as it boils down to he says she says.
I'm not suggesting that. What I'm saying is that she has additional weapons at her disposal. If hindu wives had it, they'd use it also.
Gadi Taub will just brush over those points.
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They should have invited a wahabhi from saudi also. It would have been funny to see all of them agreeing on how to run a country.
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These people are an embarrassment to the peace loving religion and country they profess to safeguard and supposedly love. Alternatively,, they're just racists using religion as a garb.
These guys shouldn't even be taken seriously. Sprouting too much nonsense as always.
The problem is they won't be taken seriously even when their supporters start implementing these absurd ideas. What kind of a civilized country allows misguided factions of society to physically beat up people who don't hold similar views? These are the same idiots who go around beating up couples on valentine's day.
It's been happening for ages sadly and will continue to happen.But you have to understand not all Hindus or Indians support these goons. There are in minority and will always be, the only change is in the last 5 years they are getting more coverage and there have been over exaggeration. Some news agency act as if living in India has become difficult which is total bs or every Hindu person share the same ideology where beating up people is the way to live, No it is not like that and will never be like that. Also, every country has such minorities who have strong beliefs and spread misguided beliefs, but that doesn't reflect the ideology of whole country. People of India has lot other things to worry that they don't even care what idiots like are saying.
That's not the point though. The point is these people are voted into power and they use these positions of power to spread their political agenda. That's what needs to be rectified, and I don't see how that's going to happen anytime soon.
Shiv sena have ruled in Maharashtra for ages and I don't know if there will be any change. But even under them ruling for ages it didn't make Hindu people of Maharashtra follow their ideology. News agency and people are just giving too much focus on them which is not needed. Every day there will be some stupid politician who will say some stupid shit, doesn't mean we have to highlight that and over exaggerate the issues. All countries have such issue, doesn't mean we have to keep on highlighting them.
Ignoring the atrocities committed by these people is as good as abetting them. They need to be called out, how else is there going to be a change? Ignoring their existence will keep them in power indefinitely. All countries have their own issues but I'm not concerned with them because I've no power to change anything elsewhere. Speaking out against injustice is the least we can do.
I am talking about the comments not the actions. You are acting as if everyday 1000s of people are being killed at the command of shiv sena. Like I said they have been here for ages so why so much attention to them suddenly. They have always made idiotic statements for years. You can keep on complaining about idiotic they are (which we all agree) but unfortunately that won't change much. Extremist are everywhere but truth is in India they will always be in minority. If people want to think otherwise that is their call.
And I'm talking about the actions taken by members of these parties as a result of these comments made by their leaders. Thousands of people don't need to die on a daily basis for us to act against political parties using their powers unfairly, injustice against a few is grounds enough to force the population into thinking about a change. My views aren't limited to Shiv Sena, they are just as valid when talking about any of the other parties causing harship to the common man. This minority of extremists, as you put it, doesn't deserve any power whatsoever. And downplaying their actions/comments is not the way to get rid of them. Call them out every time they are culpable, show the general populace who they really are, and hope that we see positive changes in the coming years.
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Maharashtra elections are around the corner. One will get to hear more such idiotic ramblings.
They are in majority now.
SO you are telling me majority of people of India believe in beating others who are against Shiv sena ideology. That's a bold and foolish claim.They are in majority now.
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