Iran v US confrontation

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The daft cretins are talking about strikes in iran as it's some sort of regular thing you do on a Friday night. They are basically saying they would happily start a world war for no obious reason with hundreds of millions of civilians dying and they have the audacity to call others terrorists....
 

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Iraq was a walk over because they had shit anti aircraft equipment. Iran have that and tonnes more in man power, not to mention sharing economic interests with other powers.

This was an odd move cos no adviser in the right mind would have wanted trump to pull that move. It just seems cowboy to a bonkers lever.

US would obviously win piss easy, but with more casualties and a lot more people asking why the feck they are there.
 

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Iraq was a walk over because they had shit anti aircraft equipment. Iran have that and tonnes more in man power, not to mention sharing economic interests with other powers.

This was an odd mood cos no adviser in the right mind would have wanted trump to pull that move. It just seems cowboy to a bonkers lever.
Not particularly unexpected given its Trump. He has no experience and is surrounded by sycophants.
 

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95-tweet thread translation of Nasrallah’s response, he’s always worth a read to get a feel for the mood in that camp:

 

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Iraq was a walk over because they had shit anti aircraft equipment. Iran have that and tonnes more in man power, not to mention sharing economic interests with other powers.

This was an odd move cos no adviser in the right mind would have wanted trump to pull that move. It just seems cowboy to a bonkers lever.

US would obviously win piss easy, but with more casualties and a lot more people asking why the feck they are there.
They cant handle iraq. I dont think they can handle iran. If they really have a good anti air it could get ugly
 

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They cant handle iraq. I dont think they can handle iran. If they really have a good anti air it could get ugly
It will be significantly more difficult to strategically take out key areas behind the logistics of Iran's war. And the man power will make it literally impossible to hold, the more you stay the more you are slaughtered. One bomb, one ambush, one informant setup at a time.
 

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It will be significantly more difficult to strategically take out key areas behind the logistics of Iran's war. And the man power will make it literally impossible to hold, the more you stay the more you are slaughtered.
Not a chance they'll send in boots on the ground. Regardless of how good the americans are a ground invasion would be disastrous
 

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Iraq was a walk over because they had shit anti aircraft equipment. Iran have that and tonnes more in man power, not to mention sharing economic interests with other powers.

This was an odd move cos no adviser in the right mind would have wanted trump to pull that move. It just seems cowboy to a bonkers lever.

US would obviously win piss easy, but with more casualties and a lot more people asking why the feck they are there.
Iraq was a walk over simply because the people was tired of Saddam and wanted him gone specially the Shia and the kurds.
 

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It's a non-binding motion. The Iraqi government ultimately decides whether to honor it or not.
Kurds and Arab Sunnis boycotted yeah?
 

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Kurds and Arab Sunnis boycotted yeah?
Boycotted is perhaps too strong a term. More like abstained considering they simply didn't bother turning up to vote on the motion. Hardly surprising, the Sunnis are just as anti-American as their shia compatriots, but also extend that contempt towards Iran (not a stretch to assume they didn't shed a single tear for Soleimani getting offed), whereas the KRG have their own awkward situation regarding Turkey's presence in the country to combat the PKK.
 

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It's a non-binding motion. The Iraqi government ultimately decides whether to honor it or not.
The government will absolutely not honor it. Not to forget Abdel Mahdi is a caretaker PM and cant take decisions in this regard.
 

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Killing Suleimani was the “nuclear option” meant to make him look at more moderate ones. You never expect the leader to actually pick the “nuclear option”.

The “giving the president a menu of options” is well documented at this point.
Let's just hope that for any forthcoming advisories they omit actual nuclear options.
 

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Just watched the images of the funeral procession, Iranian Parliament and processions in Iraq with thousands changed death to America like the good old days. This is just going as well as predicted isn't it? /S
 

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The government will absolutely not honor it. Not to forget Abdel Mahdi is a caretaker PM and cant take decisions in this regard.
This is my suspicion as well, a lot of hot air but ultimately there won't be any mass exodus of US troops.

The trouble is it'll only exacerbate the tensions, Sadr is already demanding drastic and swift action to expel US troops and shut down all bases.
 

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Just watched the images of the funeral procession, Iranian Parliament and processions in Iraq with thousands changed death to America like the good old days. This is just going as well as predicted isn't it? /S
There were also huge numbers who cheered his death, trust the media to only cover the morbid side of things.
 

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This is my suspicion as well, a lot of hot air but ultimately there won't be any mass exodus of US troops.

The trouble is it'll only exacerbate the tensions, Sadr is already demanding drastic and swift action to expel US troops and shut down all bases.
This is what we feared, this attack will only harm the protests of the Iraqi people and benefit only the militias backed by Iran. They will use this attack as an excuse to break the protests all over Iraq, they attacked the protesters today in Nasiriyah and Basrah accusing them of treason and being servants of the american agenda, I really feel sorry for the people.
 

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Britain 'on same page' as US over Suleimani killing, says Raab
Foreign secretary says UK sympathetic to Washington and focused on restoring calm

https://www.theguardian.com/politic...thetic-to-us-over-killing-of-qassem-suleimani

The old gang is getting together!
This is exactly the kind of subservient 'sovereignty' Britain can look forward to post-Brexit. Trump dangling a trade deal in front of Boris in exchange for a lapdog to provide more meat for the grinder.
 

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I think this is all part of a broader scheme/excuse to bomb Iran's nuclear facilities.
 

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What year is Johnson back?
 

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This is exactly the kind of subservient 'sovereignty' Britain can look forward to post-Brexit. Trump dangling a trade deal in front of Boris in exchange for a lapdog to provide more meat for the grinder.
thank god the terrorist sympathiser was kept out of office
 

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I think this is all part of a broader scheme/excuse to bomb Iran 's nuclear facilities.
FTFY.

And yes, this goes beyond an embassy attack. Trump's motivations might have been impulsive and purely self-serving, but its pretty much been US foreign policy to destroy Iran since the revolution.
 

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FTFY.

And yes, this goes beyond an embassy attack. Trump's motivations might have been impulsive and purely self-serving, but its pretty much been US foreign policy to destroy Iran since the revolution.
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Britain 'on same page' as US over Suleimani killing, says Raab
Foreign secretary says UK sympathetic to Washington and focused on restoring calm

https://www.theguardian.com/politic...thetic-to-us-over-killing-of-qassem-suleimani

The old gang is getting together!
If there was any doubt the neo-cons have the power once again (and Trump is a convenient means to an end) - then Trump s tweet to link the number of Iranian sites to the hostage situation removed all doubt that that's exactly the agenda that it's back on the menu. Cheney's masterplan continues to work as planned.
 

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If they agree to it then there's a possibility trump will send in more troops and try to turn Iraq into the next Syria. How can trump call soleimani a terrorist when he himself is like a devil?