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He can and will do whatever the feck he likes. I bet he promises Swift and harsh retaliation the likes the world has never seen before.
Yes, even inside Ain al Asad there are iraqi soldiers. I wonder what will the Iraqi government response be in this case.
Again. I'm not pro-Trump. My post is for balance.
He personally oversaw massacres, bombings and atrocities in the region both during and before the American invasion of Iraq in 2003.
https://www.ncr-iran.org/en/news/te...who-was-the-vicious-criminal-qassem-soleimani
I don't think he cares. He won't scuffer at any chance to play up for the cameras while giving some predictable Leslie Nielsen like speech filled with all the predictable bravado.
Normally the Middle East does not bother me that much, but this scaring the shit out of me.
Feck me. This is going to be a disaster.
Oh feck
Those defense stocks are gonna be doing really well in the morning.
Genuinely curious. Can you list the attacks he was behind that actually count as terrorist attacks? Or war crimes?
Terrorism, in case you wondered, is classically defined as targeting civilians deliberately to push for policy changes. Since 9/11, the US and its closest allies have been trying to redefine "terrorism" as any action against their interests, military or civilian outside of a formal declared state of war.
Now, if we want to accept this looser definition of "terrorism", then, by no means is Soleimani comparable to ANY top level decision maker in the US over the course of his entire career. Now, again, I genuinely don't know if anything he has organized/orchestrated deliberately targeted civilians, but, assuming he hasn't deliberately, calling him a terrorist, and thereby a war-criminal, means you need to literally call everyone in the US who has organized or ordered a drone strike against a foreign citizen, military or otherwise, without being involved in an active state of war, also a war-criminal and a terrorist. Lastly, on point of balance, without any hesitation I can say that we've carried out far more attacks, and killed far more civilians via drone/air strikes than Soleimani has in his entire career.
Either we're antagonistic to each other, pushing the boundary of whats "legal" and "prudent", or, if we're going to call him a war-criminal and a terrorist, then we're guilty of the same thing, only to a greater extent. Unless of course there are actual classic examples of terrorism that he is behind, that can be proven beyond a shadow of a doubt.
In anycase, hopefully cooler heads prevail, this is all dick swinging idiocy.
Still, what a horrific thought.
Strikes almost certainly. A ground invasion would be insanity.
FFS the Israelis wont take any prisoners, they will just send the jets in.
That’s pushing, took US 3 weeks to beat Iraq but I never understood why US wants to invade a country, just bomb the shit that country, take down all the bases and any military building and leave them to assess the destruction, if they try to retaliate then repeat.
AlHurra TV say only Iraqi soldiers have been wounded!
FFS
FFS
You talk of balance yet you use an Iranian Resistance Group as your source. Soleimani was by all means an unpleasant individual, but to accuse him of bigger war crimes than the carnage the US have unleashed there in recent decades is nonsense.
The MEK were btw listed as a terrorist organisation during the time, including by the US.
Haifa would be madness.
Dubai not so. In case of war, UAE will love to be part of it.
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Not sure any gulf country would love to be directly involved. They're used to having the Americans fight for them, they'd be utterly flattened in a direct confrontation. Fighting Iran isn't the same as fighting Houthi teenagers, and even then the Saudis struggled disastrously.
To be clear - I was talking about Trump/Pompeo specifically, and not the United States.
They invade so they have more influence in the region and benefit from resources.
What's the chances that all the Helicopter activity earlier was actually American troops being moved?
So the most important question that's not being discussed - who is making the most money / likely to make the most money with all this unfolding? We know those in power on either side don't give a feck about the loss of human life.
The same Trump who surrounds himself with the same war-mongering hawks that have been salivating at the prospect of war with Iran.
Just remember who dealt the first strike here.
I think that any war with Iran will also involve UAE and S Arabia. To be fair, both are useless at it.
Israel is another thing though. They have by far the best Air Force in the region.
That hands and knees cock sucker is putting American lives at stake.
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My friend just told me they felt and heard the missiles landing on that base.
Like I said, I was baffled and disappointed with how randomly the Americans escalated this. I'm not sure that makes Trump a war criminal just yet, a war monger certainly.
Sorry if already mentioned, what time will Trump be going on air? Do we know for sure?
Well its inevitable the Gulf kingdoms get dragged into it considering they pretty much harbour all US military personnel outside of Iraq, so Iran definitely wouldn't hold back in extending any retribution towards them.
Israel is a whole other different beast for them, but the threat they face is from within. The last thing they'd want is direct war with a substantial regional military power, while possibly contending with another Palestinian intifada, as well as multi-fronted skirmishes with Hamas and Hezbollah. Its hardly a surprise they've been rushing to distance themselves from all this madness.
That threat alone might be enough.
Seems that way. Probably anticipated some sort of attack. Doesn't change anything though. The intention was there and I can't see Trump lying down. There's no way this ends well unfortunately.
You made the objective claim of Soleimani being a war criminal, citing Iranian opposition sources and referencing his involvement in killing a designated terrorist group as your justifications.
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Ffs! What a joke. The right know they are in the wrong and Hannity, like Trump, won't back down now.
quite possibly, I would think they already have plans done , sites selected and aircraft ready, fueled and armed
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according to the pentagon, only Iraqis are wounded.
press sec just said that Trump won't have a speech tonight
CNN still saying it only a possibility
No chance they pre-emptively attack without being provoked. Contrary to what everyone might think, I don't think the Israelis want a direct confrontation.