Ole'sgunnarwin
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Yeah, it's fine, people take football too seriously.
You got meBut it would make Eric sad. So you can't do it.
This is an interesting point of view however. UTD KIDS WIFE. In that order is probably a bit tongue in cheek but it is strange that loyalty to your spouse is less expected of you than loyalty to an entity which doesn't love you back.So you are saying that if my marriage ends in divorce that means I never truly loved my wife?
Of course and I get that there is also part of a family loyalty to it for some people where they honor the tradition of parents/grandparents. I just wanted to give it some food for thought and therefore put it pointedly.It's to do with the origins of the clubs in working class communities. The idea of representation through union and pride in who you are. So it was originally who you are, not who you choose. That has stayed through the constant metamorphosis from local working class sports clubs to global behemoths. Yes it makes no sense now, but it's one of the decreasing threads that connects us to the origins of the game.
Switching clubs at the sign of struggles is pathetic. You choose your club and you stick through them thick and thin. I honestly don’t know why this would cross a persons mind if they have truly found the club for them. If you’re thinking about it, go find your club and don’t darken our paths again splitters. This forum ain’t for you
Football success happens in cycles, just remember that
On another note, I grew up in derry mostly, where you chose United or Liverpool. It was really weird to see all these Newcastle and Blackburn tops pop up in the 90s. Glory hunters. Nobody likes glory hunters
This. Can't get myself to cheer or support any of these players.United has a special place in my heart and I always want the best for the club, but I don’t like today's team. It’s the worst team I’ve experienced.
Because then you’ve given it away that you’re 12 years old and I get to ban youModern thinking mate, why can't we support Liverpool and United?
it’s typical of those with a closed off, narrow mindset. i watch every game of football hoping both sets of players make it through 90 minutes unscathed. the result is meaningless.Modern thinking mate, why can't we support Liverpool and United?
it’s typical of those with a closed off, narrow mindset. i watch every game of football hoping both sets of players make it through 90 minutes unscathed. the result is meaningless.
a group of lads and i head down to the local boozer to watch most matches and we sit in a circle singing kumbaya whilst sinking wheatgrass smoothie after wheatgrass smoothie during the match. a couple of jocular types asked us whether we were city or united during the recent manchester derby. they called us poofters when we said “both” and ridiculed our half and half scarves.
I agree, mentally good to take a break from it. Switching over to a team who are the new shine toy, definitely not.You're allowed a time out. Changing teams a no no.
This.Yeah, it's fine, people take football too seriously.
I think that's a bit different though. I've done the same with the various cities I've lived and worked. Always tried to embrace the city and attend as many local games as I can. So I have a soft spot for 2-3 clubs up and down the leagues and one in the PL besides Chelsea but I don't consider myself a supporter or a fan of any of them. Just an affinity, whose results I look out for.I think yes, if it is natural. I think it's quite easy to fall out of love with a team due to politics/other issues and slowly fall in love with another (perhaps you've moved town and started supporting your local side etc.). I wouldn't say I just support Everton, they are my no.1 team but whenever I move city I try and build up a support of the local team and dip into games etc.
Thanks Moses. This is the first reasonable explanation I've seen if this phenomenon.It's to do with the origins of the clubs in working class communities. The idea of representation through union and pride in who you are. So it was originally who you are, not who you choose. That has stayed through the constant metamorphosis from local working class sports clubs to global behemoths. Yes it makes no sense now, but it's one of the decreasing threads that connects us to the origins of the game.
100% correct. if you just refer to your team as “they” and never expand upon it further then you can assure you always win.Look I'm as modern as the latest dinosaur, if a club is causing you mental anguish you should change without worrying what others think. Fans love watching Liverpool win and why not? They play great football. And I'll be uber open minded, why can't we also want City to win, heck let's throw in Bayern and PSG too as a sort safety net. Those old people and their notion that supporting their club through thick and thin is...so passe. We change our wives, husbands and gender all the time. What's the difference? Christ I'm binary I've not even chosen my gender today.
City and PSG rock.
Thanks Moses. This is the first reasonable explanation I've seen if this phenomenon.
That said, it highlights how archaic the view is.
On the flipside, sport is entertainment so it is hard to understand why people would punish themselves watching shite teams or teams that stress and frustrate them in the absence of a very local connection. Even then, what would be wrong with a Manchester boy like Spoony changing allegiance to City?
I genuinely can't tell anymore if this is a serious post.Switching clubs at the sign of struggles is pathetic. You choose your club and you stick through them thick and thin. I honestly don’t know why this would cross a persons mind if they have truly found the club for them. If you’re thinking about it, go find your club and don’t darken our paths again splitters. This forum ain’t for you
Football success happens in cycles, just remember that
On another note, I grew up in derry mostly, where you chose United or Liverpool. It was really weird to see all these Newcastle and Blackburn tops pop up in the 90s. Glory hunters. Nobody likes glory hunters
100% correct. if you just refer to your team as “they” and never expand upon it further then you can assure you always win.
“see they won at the bloody weekend again, martin? three years, no draws, no defeats. must be some kind of record.”
In Ireland it's either United or Liverpool and has been for generations.I always wonder how the American fans handle teams just popping up out of nowhere or moving to different cities. I guess it's one thing if you support "remotely", but for the local "dad took me to my first game" people it must be a bit weird.
I genuinely can't tell anymore if this is a serious post.
That still doesn't take away from the irony of calling someone glory hunter for not supporting one of the two historically biggest clubs in the country like oneself.In Ireland it's either United or Liverpool and has been for generations.
Not necessarily. I know lifelong City fans in my family who don’t agree with their current ownership and so moved over to following LESS SUCCESSFUL teams.There is a name for that: Glory Hunters.
I can see the irony but worth remembering United and Liverpool are very Irish clubs and cities. The two ports that Irish immigrants historically moved through and settled in. Natural that those are the closest physically and culturally to Ireland.I genuinely can't tell anymore if this is a serious post.
Doesn't that apply to City and Everton as well though? In general the most successful clubs having/gaining the largest following is pretty much a universal phenomenon, isn't it?I can see the irony but worth remembering United and Liverpool are very Irish clubs and cities. The two ports that Irish immigrants historically moved through and settled in. Natural that those are the closest physically and culturally to Ireland.
On second thought, I would not look down on switching your allegiance to a lesser club.I agree, mentally good to take a break from it. Switching over to a team who are the new shine toy, definitely not.
Good question. I'll let the Irish United and Liverpool fans defend themselves on that score, but I'd imagine the 'my dad introduced me to this team' thing also applies to Irish United and Liverpool fans, but yeah of course neither club is immune to fans latching on to them because they were winning things.Doesn't that apply to City and Everton as well though?
Serious post. What’s confusing you?I always wonder how the American fans handle teams just popping up out of nowhere or moving to different cities. I guess it's one thing if you support "remotely", but for the local "dad took me to my first game" people it must be a bit weird.
I genuinely can't tell anymore if this is a serious post.
Literally Blackburn tops just appeared in the season they topped the league and quickly died away again about 6 months later. That’s glory hunting and a bit of ABU thrown inThat still doesn't take away from the irony of calling someone glory hunter for not supporting one of the two historically biggest clubs in the country like oneself.
Everton have an Irish connection too , don’t know about cityDoesn't that apply to City and Everton as well though? In general the most successful clubs having/gaining the largest following is pretty much a universal phenomenon, isn't it?