I want Ed to have them drink their own medicine by putting a £40 million deal with a "Take it or leave it" manner.
100% agree!!! We were in a worldwide pandemic, every club was feeling the lost of revenue, but they were still trying to sqeeze blood out of us and drag our name through the mud.I want Ed to have them drink their own medicine by putting a £40 million deal with a "Take it or leave it" manner.
I don't even care if we get Sancho or not now. I just want to get back at Dortmund for their blasphemy last summer. We spent a whole summer trying to work around their demand of 120 millions. Now it's their turn to spend their whole next summer working around our 40 millions offer.
Sorry, Sancho. But Dortmund just angered me massively last summer.
Agree and disagree. I think our big problem is our two CB both lack pace and when Matic is played as a DM that is another player lacking pace as well.
Funnily enough Pulisic went through same hype and fall/draught (albeit on a smaller scale)
it’s not a good analogy. You can buy a coat for £20 that will function as well as a more expensive one.
Are you calling Greenwood a "20 £ coat"?
He does have very close control and can get out of tight spots, but he's not an explosive dribbler. One major criticism from Dortmund fans of Sancho this season is that he rarely takes a player on.
That was all well and good but he chased him so hard that there wasn't time to get an alternative.
Did I say he's worth the money?
no. An expensive coat has no additional functionality than a cheaper one. The analogy doesn’t work at all, so I’m not collaring anyone to a coat of any value.
Pulisic is the definition of an explosive dribbler though. Pulisic is absolutely rapid, so not exactly the best comparison for the point you're trying to make.
Woody's been on a roll lately. While most of CAF is frustrated that he runs the negotiations to the wire so far far it seems to have worked out. We've avoided signing an uninterested player in Dybala, signed Bruno and Telles for under the asking price. Got the VDB deal over the line quickly. I think he might have a learned a thing or two from his past failings.
Well it was a negotiating tactic for a business deal since Dortmund were fixed on their price in a market where the impact to revenues were unknown. We still don't know when fans will be allowed back in without any restrictions. It was a wise move by the club and frankly they should have negotiated with that reality in mind. The club never said that this is what we are willing to pay and not a buck more i.e., our stance wasn't a hard one and we were willing to negotiate.
Kinda like what now? Ronaldo returned and was as professional as ever, key player for us that season
You misread my post. I'm not saying Ronaldo downed the tools or anything. What I am saying is that his heart wasn't in it anymore. He wanted that Madrid move in 2008, but then SAF asked him to stay one more year. Reluctantly, he agreed, but more out of respect for SAF than anything. And the statistics back it up.
He started 2008/09 with an ankle injury though, and we were worse going forward with Berbatov starting most league games. A lot of 1-0 wins got us the title that year, didn't we break the clean sheet record?
Many of us, myself included owe Woodward a massive apology for slating him so hard in the summer.
You're right about him being injured and we did break the defensive record for the league, but that's not what this thread is about.
It's definitely part of it because, even leaving aside football and financial motivations, he really wanted to be back in England.
I don't think he was slated much for not paying up, rather that we chased him for so long when it was clear a deal wasn't going to be agreed. We then attempted to get last a ditch deal done towards the end of the window but failed.
You probably missed my point. Am talking about when Ole/the club came out with this, then their president comes out with this. Dortmund kept acting like we were trying to fleece them but saying outwardly that we were looking to exploit clubs in the corona window couldn't have made negotiations with their paranoid president easier.
Yes, I agree. I was frustrated too with the lack of urgency to sign a right-sided attacker and for needless media leaks which made it apparent that either it is Sancho or bust.
My assumption is that the timeline of events is different in private conversation as opposed to how it played out in the media. I believe Dortmund privately told us that their demands are such and the deal needs to be completed by this date.
I want Ed to have them drink their own medicine by putting a £40 million deal with a "Take it or leave it" manner.
I don't even care if we get Sancho or not now. I just want to get back at Dortmund for their blasphemy last summer. We spent a whole summer trying to work around their demand of 120 millions. Now it's their turn to spend their whole next summer working around our 40 millions offer.
Sorry, Sancho. But Dortmund just angered me massively last summer.
This is such a spoilt, entitled viewpoint.Thats funny because thats the whole point of this thread anyway. Everyone is on topic, you are the odd one here then. Maybe you shouldn't post here at all, or rather go back to Sancho thread if you want to discuss something totally out of topic.
And when was the last time a played scored 28 and assisted 9 in a season for us? You're clouding your judgement on what he achieved before and after those numbers. Ronaldo was also profession and motivated when playing for United hence the relationship between himself and SAF. If anything we're actually lucky we got to see him for another season and that relationship with SAF played a pivotal part in that.
Zoric, is that you?
Basically 'we are United and as such you will sell us any player we want for any price we want'.
The 'work around' was to meet Dortmund's demand of ~£108m, which you didn't do.
I can categorically confirm they won't waste any time at all 'working around' a £40m offer.
