Is Lingard as good as gone? | Contract extended by one year

[stevoc]

People are forgetting that he was a good player in the Moyes/LvG days.

He’s just gone wayward Outside of football and probably hasn’t handled it the best. Unfortunately I think there is no space for him now at United unless he’s willing to perform better and spend time on the bench.

I personally think he should look at France or Germany. Maybe even Spain

Don't think he played a game under Moyes.

 

[RedSky]

An attacking player playing for one of the most high profile clubs in the league. Lingard had a superb spell during 17/18 where he scored 7 league goals in 700mins. That was by far his best form and he got rewarded with his famous contract.

The rest of his career at United? 11 goals in 6749mins, resulting in a goal every 614mins. For an attacking player, it's garbage and before people defend him and mention assists. Well he was fecking terrible at that too, 12 league assists in 7,445mins.

 

[Ludens the Red]

He should go to the MLS. He won’t cut it at the top leagues in Europe. He’d enjoy the lifestyle out in America too. I know he’s still youngish but a break away like that might do him good.

 

[Matriac]

He should go to the MLS. He won’t cut it at the top leagues in Europe. He’d enjoy the lifestyle out in America too. I know he’s still youngish but a break away like that might do him good.

He's unlikely to leave the country. Probably stay around Midlands even if he can. Due to family.

 

[Ludens the Red]

He's unlikely to leave the country. Probably stay around Midlands even if he can. Due to family.

Yeah I don’t see him leaving the U.K. at all but I can’t help but think it’d be the best move career and lifestyle wise.

 

[PieCrust]

He could definitely find clubs and have decent money to live on, in a nice city. I didn't say he'd be a star or marquee signing.

I would agree with that if the league was somewhere in Europe, just not MLS. Wages are shit in MLS if you are not a DP and their salary cap structure is completely different than any other league. The maximum a non-DP player can make is something like $10k / week.

It's players like Thierry Henry, Kaka, Robbie Keane, David Villa, Andrea Pirlo, Steven Gerrard, Wayne Rooney, Zlatan Ibrahimovic and David Beckham that get on the DP list. Lingard is light years behind those players and doesn't have the marketing value for a club to even consider signing him and making up funds that way.

I know people on this forum like to slag off MLS as some place where anyone can go and make a ton of money, but that only is true for what were once elite level players that can still perform in a lower quality league and sell tickets and shirts, i.e., not Jesse Lingard.

That said, for regular folks $10k/week is an amazing salary, but even Lingard can command a much higher wage across almost every tier 2 league in Europe and he still might be able to scam a contract from a desperate EPL club.

 

[Red00012]

MEN reporting he’s been axed from our 22 man squad

 

[Crackers]

When did he get his contract extension?

 

[Red00012]

When did he get his contract extension?

They just triggered the +1 year he was out of contract this summer

 

[Tallis]

Looks like there is a tussle going on. He wants to go on a free and our club admin don’t want to let him do so - that’s why the extension and then dropping from squad to force his hand.

 

[GMoore23]

MEN reporting he’s been axed from our 22 man squad

Proper order. We can't be letting anymore players take the piss. Give him the Schweinsteiger treatment.

 

[Renegade]

The club have really forced his hand here. He probably thought he could chill, collect the big wage then leave for nothing and collect a nice signing on fee. Now he’ll have to sacrifice the signing on fee bonus and leave as soon as possible if he wants to play any time soon.
His options of clubs will limit aswell because who’s going to want to pay a fee if he doesn’t lower his wage demands.
I have no sympathy for players trying to run their huge contracts down whilst not contributing.

 

[adexkola]

The club have really forced his hand here. He probably thought he could chill, collect the big wage then leave for nothing and collect a nice signing on fee. Now he’ll have to sacrifice the signing on fee bonus and leave as soon as possible if he wants to play any time soon.
His options of clubs will limit aswell because who’s going to want to pay a fee if he doesn’t lower his wage demands.
I have no sympathy for players trying to run their huge contracts down whilst not contributing.

If I was him I'd run out the contract.

He won't get that salary somewhere else. Best to chill and collect the sign on fee bonus at the end of it all.

 

[NYAS]

If I was him I'd run out the contract.

He won't get that salary somewhere else. Best to chill and collect the sign on fee bonus at the end of it all.

Yeah, I mean all he’s going to miss out on now is a 20-minute sub appearance every couple of months. Big deal. There’s no forcing his hand going on. Both parties signed a contract - that’s when hands were forced.

 

[Idxomer]

If I was him I'd run out the contract.

He won't get that salary somewhere else. Best to chill and collect the sign on fee bonus at the end of it all.

Could he really afford to go 2 and a half years without game time at his age?

I find it hard to see any club in the PL gambling on him if he does what you suggest.

 

[Crustanoid]

Yeah, I mean all he’s going to miss out on now is a 20-minute sub appearance every couple of months. Big deal. There’s no forcing his hand going on. Both parties signed a contract - that’s when hands were forced.

Further proof that Ed is a Grade A idiot an that we need someone with some semblance of a brain to take over this part of his job

 

[Renegade]

If I was him I'd run out the contract.

He won't get that salary somewhere else. Best to chill and collect the sign on fee bonus at the end of it all.

A player running a contract down before reaching 30 is mental to me. It would be career suicide, he’d be approaching no first team football in 3 years if he did that.

 

[ClaytonBlackmoorLeftPeg]

If I was him I'd run out the contract.

He won't get that salary somewhere else. Best to chill and collect the sign on fee bonus at the end of it all.

the vast majority of footballers don’t think like that.

whatever you think of Lingard, I don’t think that’s his mentality at all.

 

[Acole9]

the vast majority of footballers don’t think like that.

whatever you think of Lingard, I don’t think that’s his mentality at all.

I agree, it's a short career. There are rare cases with some players which that might be the case but Lingard I'm sure isn't one of them.

 

[RuudTom83]

United's squad players must be the worst clients to represent on the transfer market...they are shit, over-payed, and not match fit!

Literally who would want the likes of Jesse...he wouldn't be any use in a dogfight for survival, or a club challenging for trophies, and a mid-table team would have more sense than to waste a huge amount of money on his wage. Just stop extending them with these silly contract clauses.

 

[adexkola]

A player running a contract down before reaching 30 is mental to me. It would be career suicide, he’d be approaching no first team football in 3 years if he did that.

He'd be further securing his finances. If I was in his position I wouldn't move to a worse situation finance wise just to play football, but that's me

Could he really afford to go 2 and a half years without game time at his age?

I find it hard to see any club in the PL gambling on him if he does what you suggest.

I find it hard to see any club in the PL gambling on him as is right now. Who would buy him, and how much do you see them paying him?

the vast majority of footballers don’t think like that.

whatever you think of Lingard, I don’t think that’s his mentality at all.

This is true.

I wouldn't think any worse of Lingard if he decided to chill and stack. We signed the contract with him voluntarily, and also decided to extend it by a year.

 

[stw2022]

He'd be further securing his finances. If I was in his position I wouldn't move to a worse situation finance wise just to play football, but that's me



I find it hard to see any club in the PL gambling on him as is right now. Who would buy him, and how much do you see them paying him?



This is true.

I wouldn't think any worse of Lingard if he decided to chill and stack. We signed the contract with him voluntarily, and also decided to extend it by a year.

I’d think less of any supposed professional athlete who chose to ‘chill and stack’ in a career as short as a footballers.

Amazed anyone wouldn’t.

 

[Don't Kill Bill]

Isn't this where Steve Bruce usually helps us out.

 

[Wednesday at Stoke]

Isn't this where Steve Bruce usually helps us out.

Considering that he’s at the end of his rope there, I doubt he has much say in transfers anymore.

 

[Robbie Boy]

How this guy has amassed 210 appearances for us is baffling.

 

[JMack1234]

It's a shame Lingard has fallen off a cliff because we do with a good squad player who can fill in one of the front three position and isn't Dan James.

but he's lost. Maybe for personal reasons but we and he need to part ways.

 

[ICHM]

He is gone. He won't be getting anywhere near full contract amount as some of it will be appearance based and goal/assist based.

We need him and Jones/Rojo gone to free up money to buy replacements.

 

[sunama]

How this guy has amassed 210 appearances for us is baffling.

It's because he was playing during a time when we averaged 4th-5th place.
Under SAF, we were averaged 1st-2nd. In those teams, Lingard would not have amassed so many appearances.
The guy needs to leave for his own good. I can't believe that he feels good about staying at home and not getting any game time.

 

[Robbie Boy]

It's because he was playing during a time when we averaged 4th-5th place.
Under SAF, we were averaged 1st-2nd. In those teams, Lingard would not have amassed so many appearances.
The guy needs to leave for his own good. I can't believe that he feels good about staying at home and not getting any game time.

Still a crazy amount of games considering he played well in a very small percentage of them.

Apparently West Ham are in for him on loan. He needs to leave for his own good.

 

[passing-wind]

It's no surprise Lingard has been disregarded in a sense. When the team needs to go up a level you cannot keep players who don't have as much to give as pivotal first team members. That's why eventually the club will also have to reshuffle the defensive side of our midfield (Scott, Fred, Matic) because aside Pogba no one beyond a 6 / 8 is good enough in possession for us to play and impose our game as a top team.

I also don't see Solskjaer as a whimsical coach who can bring the best out of an average player something that SAF and very few managers are gifted with being able to accomplish.

 

[MadDogg]

Still a crazy amount of games considering he played well in a very small percentage of them.

Apparently West Ham are in for him on loan. He needs to leave for his own good.

Even though he wasn't particularly good in many of them, there was a good long stretch where the team as a whole played better when he was there than when he wasn't. Of course that was more about how poor the players replacing him were, but still. We should have been signing better players, but we didn't do that so he did deserve to start considering what we did have.

 

[Red & White]

Hopefully he gets the loan move to West Ham and finds some form before making the deal permanent in the summer. I’ll always remember his FA Cup final winning goal in extra time and wish him well. Scored quite a few great goals for us looking back but isn’t quite at the level we need going forward.

 

[wolvored]

He needs to play otherwise his clothing line will hemorrhage even more money. He needs the fans and at a lower club, he might do a bit better.

 

[Sandikan]

He might be useful in the Europa to help rest others. But realistically you can't see him starting a league game, which has to feel a huge come down for him.

But everyone knows he's had family issues, so will he really fancy a move 200 miles away?

 

[balaks]

He could be a very good player once he gets to 24/25 years old. Far too early to write him off.

 

[Robbie Boy]

Even though he wasn't particularly good in many of them, there was a good long stretch where the team as a whole played better when he was there than when he wasn't. Of course that was more about how poor the players replacing him were, but still. We should have been signing better players, but we didn't do that so he did deserve to start considering what we did have.

Well yeah, it was clearly our own fault for letting it get to the point where we needed to be starting Lingard.

 

[SadlerMUFC]

He could be a very good player once he gets to 24/25 years old. Far too early to write him off.

Completely agree. I hate seeing us give up on our youth players at such a young age. At least make sure there is a buy back option if he's sold...

 

[davidmichael]

http://www.skysports.com/share/12198866

Looks like he’s on his way out, hopefully he performs to a decent level there and Moyes signs him permanently as we may squeeze £10 million out of them if he performs well over the second half of the season.

 

[Falcow]

I think he would be useful for teams outside the top 6. A lot of the time he was awful for us but in his defence, he played for us when we were shite.....yes i realise that we were shite due in part to having players like him playing but it's not all on him obviously. That said, he should have been sold years ago. When liverpool can get 25m for reserves who have barely kicked a ball for them, then why cant we get reasonable money for an english international (over priced commodity that they tend to be).

As for his clothing line. I have zero sympathy. Was earning more in 2 weeks that the prime minister of your country in 1 year not enough that he had to start a side hustle? Seriously. Getting better at football should be the one and only focus.

 

[MadDogg]

As for his clothing line. I have zero sympathy. Was earning more in 2 weeks that the prime minister of your country in 1 year not enough that he had to start a side hustle? Seriously. Getting better at football should be the one and only focus.

Players don't spend 16 hours a day on football and 8 hours sleeping. They have a lot of spare time. Putting some of that spare time into a clothing line instead of playing computer games, drinking, hiring escorts, surfing the web, etc isn't exactly the worst thing. I highly doubt it's anything to do with the money, it's just a bit of fun he has on the side.