Fans are never patient. The evaluation of manager has become too reactionary and dependent on the last game. One lose or draw and it's enough to make the manager the worst ever and lost his touch.He never lost it. The criticism of him has been over the top this season.
He's made some daft decisions at times which people are quite entitled to mention.He never lost it. The criticism of him has been over the top this season.
Freak injuries is an understatement.Freak injuries
We've only had one game since the two freak injuries you've mentioned. Let's give it a bit before judging how that goes.Freak injuries is an understatement.
2 of our best players, both suffering cruciate ligament injuries in the same match. I think this is unprecedented in modern football.
Is Mourinho the Special One?
Nope. He is the Only One.
With a team decimated by injuries, he continues to push us through games, using our 2nd string players, to get wins.
Playing whilst injured may indicate a «crazy» attitude of the sort he's presumably referring to. It may also be plain idiotic, however.
One can only presuppose that he knows precisely what the medical status is. The Shaw thing I have no issue with. You don't want players who can't push themselves above and beyond when the occasion calls for it - that's common sense, and if anything it's surprising to hear it mentioned in those terms at all.
Wanting players who are actually injured to forget about their condition is quite different, though - but, again, we have to presuppose he knows exactly where they are, rehabilitation wise.
I largely agree with those who don't see why he feels the need to go public with all this, though. I have never seen the upside to broadcasting such details, unless it be sheer mindgames. Maybe they ain't injured at all.
Except we can't, Zlatan's injury has nothing to do with fatigue. He hyper extended his knee by landing wrong on it. He could have been rested and he would have still had the same injury had he landed on his leg that same way.I think we can all argue that Zlatan got so horribly injured because he was so over worked. Jose constantly starting him (could be because Zlatan insisted but does that matter when you're he manager?) when Rashford or Martial should have gotten the nod up front.
That is true, my fault. I thought his knee shot out straight in the air before he landed. But the fact his meniscus was also ruptured just sort of doesnt make sense for that type of injury. We can all agree he wasn't rested enough regardless.Except we can't, Zlatan's injury has nothing to do with fatigue. He hyper extended his knee by landing wrong on it. He could have been rested and he would have still had the same injury had he landed on his leg that same way.
Ye I agree with that, that's the one thing I think Jose needs to improve on. I think he's the best choice for us but he needs to trust his squad players more. It's hard to fully put the blame on him though, we were struggling to score goals and for the majority of this season Ibra looked like the only player who could score. Coupled with the fact that until a few weeks ago Rashford and Martial were in dire form, it was just a bad situation.That is true, my fault. I thought his knee shot out straight in the air before he landed. But the fact his meniscus was also ruptured just sort of doesnt make sense for that type of injury. We can all agree he wasn't rested enough regardless.
The man is just a nut case at times.Playing whilst injured may indicate a «crazy» attitude of the sort he's presumably referring to. It may also be plain idiotic, however.
One can only presuppose that he knows precisely what the medical status is. The Shaw thing I have no issue with. You don't want players who can't push themselves above and beyond when the occasion calls for it - that's common sense, and if anything it's surprising to hear it mentioned in those terms at all.
Wanting players who are actually injured to forget about their condition is quite different, though - but, again, we have to presuppose he knows exactly where they are, rehabilitation wise.
I largely agree with those who don't see why he feels the need to go public with all this, though. I have never seen the upside to broadcasting such details, unless it be sheer mindgames. Maybe they ain't injured at all.
And Zlatan didn't play that much the last couple weeks. People seem like they can't distinguish between muscle injury which relating to overwork vs freak injury that can happen by stripping in your bathroom.Except we can't, Zlatan's injury has nothing to do with fatigue. He hyper extended his knee by landing wrong on it. He could have been rested and he would have still had the same injury had he landed on his leg that same way.
Looking at each of these in detail:He deserves so much credit for how this season is unfolding.
Just think about how he's (thus far) handled -
The Rooney Situation
Freak injuries
Getting more from complacent players
Out thinking other managers
Bonding with the fans
Slowly making OT a fortress again
Winning Trophies
And he's done this while having a hard time with his father needing care, and readjusting to a new club that was low in mood when he came here.
I fecking Love José, hope he stays for many years and wins every trophy here, and I believe if given time, he actually will do that.
Good reply, mate. Thanks for taking the time.Looking at each of these in detail:
The Rooney situation: A+ Turned one of our biggest concerns going into the season into a non-issue
Freak injuries: B, would agree that this has been handled well, especially in defence, where we've been decimated.
Getting more from complacent players: Going with a B- here, it's worked well in some cases (Mikhi, Martial) but has also resulted in removing important players from selection for long periods, leaving us a bit stretched at times (Martial, Schweinsteiger, Shaw).
Out thinking other managers: C, maybe even C-. He hasn't actually done this that often. I understand that the Chelsea game is fresh in everyone's mind (and it was an excellent tactical performance), but we've ended up with frustrating draws against strong to medium premier league opposition a lot this season, and frankly made more of a meal of Europe than we should have. Also, three big league games to go (City, Arsenal and Spurs) plus a league cup semi-final tie still to go, I'd say the jury is still out on this one.
Bonding with the fans: A, he's been excellent, very aware and respectful of the club's heritage and saying all the right things without pandering. Wish he'd criticise individuals a little less, but other than that he's been everything I'd want.
Slowly making OT a fortress again: C-, maybe even going into a D. Our home form has not been good enough.
Winning Trophies: Currently a C, but could edge toward a B with a convincing Europa League victory. Did think the league cup would invigorate us a little more than it did, but there were mitigating circumstances so I'll let it go.
There are other important things he's done, like getting us to play good football again, but not at the expense of game-management, and turning our defence into a mean machine. Overall I'm happy with what he's done so far, but I expect more next season.
nah miki hasn't been good enough a classic case of not being bothered, for Jose to bench him from the get-go means he made a dismal first impression, utd can be overwhelming but he arrived at the same time as pogba and ibra so should have been free to express himself.Mikhi - This one is the one I disagree with since he had just gotten here smalling NEVER seemed like the type of player that would give it his all when in pain. His injuries almost always are more minor than most players and still misses an insane amount of time. I don't think he's particularly good and that last year was a fluke. Jones is just always injured. He'd be the perfect Jose player if he wasn't made of glass.
He had been well rested the previous month or so, between the international break and his 3 game suspension.That is true, my fault. I thought his knee shot out straight in the air before he landed. But the fact his meniscus was also ruptured just sort of doesnt make sense for that type of injury. We can all agree he wasn't rested enough regardless.
100% agree.Looking at each of these in detail:
The Rooney situation: A+ Turned one of our biggest concerns going into the season into a non-issue
Freak injuries: B, would agree that this has been handled well, especially in defence, where we've been decimated.
Getting more from complacent players: Going with a B- here, it's worked well in some cases (Mikhi, Martial) but has also resulted in removing important players from selection for long periods, leaving us a bit stretched at times (Martial, Schweinsteiger, Shaw).
Out thinking other managers: C, maybe even C-. He hasn't actually done this that often. I understand that the Chelsea game is fresh in everyone's mind (and it was an excellent tactical performance), but we've ended up with frustrating draws against strong to medium premier league opposition a lot this season, and frankly made more of a meal of Europe than we should have. Also, three big league games to go (City, Arsenal and Spurs) plus a league cup semi-final tie still to go, I'd say the jury is still out on this one.
Bonding with the fans: A, he's been excellent, very aware and respectful of the club's heritage and saying all the right things without pandering. Wish he'd criticise individuals a little less, but other than that he's been everything I'd want.
Slowly making OT a fortress again: C-, maybe even going into a D. Our home form has not been good enough.
Winning Trophies: Currently a C, but could edge toward a B with a convincing Europa League victory. Did think the league cup would invigorate us a little more than it did, but there were mitigating circumstances so I'll let it go.
There are other important things he's done, like getting us to play good football again, but not at the expense of game-management, and turning our defence into a mean machine. Overall I'm happy with what he's done so far, but I expect more next season.
Nah. I will take Jose on Klopp anyday. Our squad needs a massive rebuild and Klopp wouldn't have done that. He would have tried to do as much as possible with what the current players , playing some nice football and some nice matches but never win any significant competitions as these players had limits. He would have come and left without achieving anything and that's what he would do at Liverpool.He never was the Special One. But his football is a lot better than LVG or Moyes. I would have preferred Klopp but I don't have a problem with Jose, beyond his likely implosion in 2018-19. If you listen closely you can already hear the loud ticking...
Take a break from the internet.He never was the Special One. But his football is a lot better than LVG or Moyes. I would have preferred Klopp but I don't have a problem with Jose, beyond his likely implosion in 2018-19. If you listen closely you can already hear the loud ticking...
I agree, I absolutely love this.http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...ted-boss-Jose-Mourinho-demands-wall-fame.html
That seems to be a brilliant motivational action and man-management from him.
How can Winning Trophies be a C?! He has become the first manager in Manchester United history to win a trophy in his first season. He won the Community Shield, he won the League Cup, we narrowly missed out in the FA Cup losing to the best team in the country and the competition with only 10 men, we're in the semi final of the Europa. I'd say that's pretty impressive, B+ for me, and if we win the Europa it's got to be an A-Winning Trophies: Currently a C, but could edge toward a B with a convincing Europa League victory. Did think the league cup would invigorate us a little more than it did, but there were mitigating circumstances so I'll let it go.
You raise a fair point, I didn't really consider that no United manager had won a trophy in his first season before. That said, expectations were (with good reason) quite high at the start of the season, we were expected to challenge for the league, and many here predicted us winning it. I would probably knock us up to a B+ if we win the europa league, which I think is a much bigger deal that the league cup, but you have to consider that the teams we've faced in each competition have hardly been world-beaters, and we've made a real meal of both.How can Winning Trophies be a C?! He has become the first manager in Manchester United history to win a trophy in his first season. He won the Community Shield, he won the League Cup, we narrowly missed out in the FA Cup losing to the best team in the country and the competition with only 10 men, we're in the semi final of the Europa. I'd say that's pretty impressive, B+ for me, and if we win the Europa it's got to be an A-
Why do people keep saying this?He never was the Special One. But his football is a lot better than LVG or Moyes. I would have preferred Klopp but I don't have a problem with Jose, beyond his likely implosion in 2018-19. If you listen closely you can already hear the loud ticking...
Because it is an easy and lazy narrative.Why do people keep saying this?
Because of his well documented tendency to have alienated his players after 3 seasons ...usually because they win something and their egos get too big to orbit his.Why do people keep saying this?
Tell that to Porto, Chelsea and Inter fans.He never was the Special One. But his football is a lot better than LVG or Moyes. I would have preferred Klopp but I don't have a problem with Jose, beyond his likely implosion in 2018-19. If you listen closely you can already hear the loud ticking...