There are none. I mean, I've just seen a few people on the internet calling 4 times CL winner defender Sergio Ramos a bad defender, not a good defender or an average defender.
How can VVD be one of the best of his generation on the back of one, maybe two seasons at the top level? The likes of Boateng, Ramos and Piqué were at the top for years, not to mention produced memorable big performances at the biggest stages like major finals or semi finals, something that I struggle VVD did. Of course he has all the attributes to be up there but you have to actually go on and do it like the others to earn the right to be considered at their level.
Obviously you haven't watched him this season
Paul Pogba. Everyone agrees on that one.
I see what you did there
Shots fired!
I had a lot of fun watching him and Varane mess up thanks.
He wasnt a different player during his career, other than at right back where once again it was his attacking play that caught the eye not defending
I'd call him an average out and out defender, but one of the best attacking CBs I've ever seen. Combining the two he's a good defender.
Spanish lad who joined as a teen and brought La Decima to Madrid. That alone would be enough to idolize and hype him for enternity over there. He then went on to win a few more Champions Leagues with them as captain.
This. He has clearly been world class and one of the worlds best in the last 10 years. He has a better resume, more goals and decisive moments upfront than the likes of Baresi, Nesta and Maldini, but he's clearly not in their class once we start talking the greatest defenders of all time.
This. Absolute madness. “Best Dutch player in the epl” ever category, apparently as well
Defensively? no chance.
Terry has been the most defender for sides that broke clean sheets and goals conceded records in England and Europe.
Terry was easily better than Ramos, heck even Puyol also better than him.
Ramos better attacker. Terry better defender.
No effin way. I hate Terry, but he is clearly a better CB than Ramos. Leads the line better, defensively better and can also organize the defence better (Though I rate Carvalho higher than Terry).
I'd happily take Terry.
That is very debatable and there really is not a way to measure that.
Don't care. Prefer the other three. Pique is also probably a 'bigger legend'. Still would prefer them to him.
It’s not debatable at all.
Juliano Beletti scored the wining goal in a Champions League final. Is he a bigger icon than Puyol? And Terry, Rio and Vidic have all won more league titles and they did in the most popular sporting league in the World. They are some of the biggest legends of the Premier League and England tends to show respect to Centrebacks more than any other country. And they have all knocked out some of the best teams in Europe as well. And Chelsea and Manchester United both broke European clean sheet records during their times at the club.
The Champions League, World Cup and Euro Cup are all bigger and more prestigious competitions than the Premier League.
They are knockout competitions. They are not something you can follow 24-7 like the Premier League. And Beckham is a bigger celebrity than all the players you mentioned with exception of the big 2. And he became that while still in England. And Perez often targets PL stars because of how big they are globally.
