I thought Germany-Spain was a quality game, and it had none of these.
Is this one of the worst quality World Cups ever? | Probably not
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Football in general is just meh nowadays
The caf is a strange place when it comes to international football. Most players clearly value playing for their countries over their clubs, and you see a level of passion from players in international football that you usually don’t see for their clubs, yet large parts of the caf call it crap and don’t seem to care for it.
Sorry for enjoying dribbling so much.
It isn't quality for people complaining because, the supposed easy teams are putting up a fight against the big boys.
The Caf undermine every International tournament going, other than the Euro's. I mean, a couple of posters scoffed at the idea of Mane giving a shit about his AFCON medal
Even though he places that way higher than his UCL medal.Yeah, people kinda wanted the big teams to win all their matches, but it hasn't happened.
The WC rarely give us stomps like in the UCL, where you have billionaire clubs facing clubs with way less money.
I like International football cause Messi and Ronaldo have almost always looked very terrenal in the World Cup.
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Many people here complained about the quality of the last 2 Euros because of expansion from 16 to 24 teams.The Caf undermine every International tournament going, other than the Euro's. I mean, a couple of posters scoffed at the idea of Mane giving a shit about his AFCON medal
It is boring as feck to watch dross like Qatar and Canada attempt to play football. The top teams are also not that great.
The Premier League is a far higher level of quality and much more entertaining, and can't wait until it comes back.
The Premier League is a far higher level of quality and much more entertaining, and can't wait until it comes back.
Exactly
No team is easy to beat
Every game is becoming better and better. What a game by Australia.
Winning the AFCON is likely Mane's biggest moment of his career. The biggest moment in his country's football history.The Caf undermine every International tournament going, other than the Euro's. I mean, a couple of posters scoffed at the idea of Mane giving a shit about his AFCON medal
Look at that crowd.
I think for a lot of the players club football is a job you do. While playing for your country means more.
No doubt, I think that's what elevates the world cup over club football, the players put their heart and soul into the game and you can see how much it means to them. And you can't just buy the best players and assemble the team, there is a proper sense of achievement when you win.
Money can never buy this.
Yeah but wouldn’t you rather the CL where You can see Real, City, PSG and Bayern battle it out for the millionth year in a row? High quality football and all that.
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You must have been watching something different. Dogshit first half by both teams. Switched off didn't miss anything.
The CL is getting kinda boring with the same teams going far every year.
The Bosman law and huge money from TV added a lot of imbalance to club football, before semis you have billionaire clubs facing clubs that are working on a budget.
The QF are exciting so far. Big teams still need "luck" to win their games.
Yeah, agree with you, that is what makes a World Cup special, it is all about the best team a Country can assemble and not a million dollar club.
You choose the best possible players you can assemble from all over the the world and try get them to play as a team, and see how far you can go….. it’s a knockout tournament!
The passion and emotion on display is really only visible in a World Cup, and what a great way to see some talent, we have never seen before.
You choose the best possible players you can assemble from all over the the world and try get them to play as a team, and see how far you can go….. it’s a knockout tournament!
The passion and emotion on display is really only visible in a World Cup, and what a great way to see some talent, we have never seen before.
This thread is basically knee jerking gone wrong.
QFs would look like late stage CL games if no upset happens in the next three days… yet one or two upsets at this stage are the story of every WC and pave the “easy way” to the SF for one of the biggest guns. My guess: Japan outrunning Croatia, Switzerland outmuscling Portugal.
Problem is that worlds best players are now playing for 10-15 clubs, and earlier it wasn't like that and they were much more evenly spread.
That's why World Cup was level above everything there was on offer. UEFA has actually managed to make competition stronger than World Cup but at cost of destroying competitiveness around whole continent.
And football when it isn't competitive gets bland and boring. I find it difficult to make myself watch CL most of the time.
I'm also bit bored with comparisons in quality, as if it's something an average fan can spot easily. Mozart has made better music than everything that's being made now, but I don't know many people listening to that. Because that's not what we listen music for.
And it's the same with football. We are not all master tacticians nor is every top level game in Champions League or Premier League a spectacle. In fact, there are numerous stinkers.
And for every Qatar and Canada that somebody has mentioned before, there is also some team like Norwich or Burnley.
That's why World Cup was level above everything there was on offer. UEFA has actually managed to make competition stronger than World Cup but at cost of destroying competitiveness around whole continent.
And football when it isn't competitive gets bland and boring. I find it difficult to make myself watch CL most of the time.
I'm also bit bored with comparisons in quality, as if it's something an average fan can spot easily. Mozart has made better music than everything that's being made now, but I don't know many people listening to that. Because that's not what we listen music for.
And it's the same with football. We are not all master tacticians nor is every top level game in Champions League or Premier League a spectacle. In fact, there are numerous stinkers.
And for every Qatar and Canada that somebody has mentioned before, there is also some team like Norwich or Burnley.
I get it in the sense that I don't get behind England anywhere near as much as United and barely ever watch qualifiers, particularly now I live in a different time zone.
But agree completely on the passion, which results in such drama.
One other odd thing is people moaning some of the 'big' teams are out, despite the fact that Belgium, for example, were shite to watch and Morocco fully deserve to have qualified ahead of them.
Some folk live in their own joyless bubbles I guess and each to their own and all that.
Blunt but true words.
Please. Taylor Swift could write Don Giovanni but Mozart couldn’t write Anti-Hero
Yeah, Mitrovic and Toney were ‘Championship level’ until they got promoted and then they were top scorer in the Premier League level. Football is a fickle and competitive game, where players are often on the way up to a higher level, they just needed the exposure, some of these ‘Championship’ players could be in the latter stages of the CL in a few years while some of these ‘elite’ players could go Dele Alli on it.
Bosman ruling kinda killed the balance in the UCL.
The fact that rich teams can sign foreigners with barely any limit, to replace mediocre national players is a massive advantage over poorer teams if you have the proper scouting.
I remember Inter in 2010 UCL final didn't have a single italian in their starting XI...that was ridiculous.
It also takes away the connection from the teams when that happens, especially when you have clubs owned by oil states, it's just a randomly assigned bunch of mercenaries from various countries. I appreciate as well that United give players a few years chance, even though it ends up not being ruthless enough. But say like Chelsea, they've had Torres, Falcao, Higuain, Morata, Werner up front, now it's Aubameyang and they're already talking of replacing him for the next equivalent 30 year old mercenary striker. Meanwhile they sell Tammy Abraham to Roma. I dunno how you build an affinity with players like that. Then the manager changes every year.
Producing results is an essential ingredient for building up affinity. Length of stay only builds up frustration and resentment if the player or manager is not producing.
We are definitely too lax and it’s not like there’s much affinity between the fans and the likes of Maguire, Lingard and AWB anyway. Many also thought that Ole and Jose should have been sacked earlier than they were.
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Moving on from the original question, does this WC spin the game back towards developing conventional strikers and away from wide forwards?
So many teams chronically lacking a proper 9.
So many teams chronically lacking a proper 9.
One of the better WC to be fair.
Its rubbish compared to 86 or 90 . Or 78 . 82 wasn't much cop either. 94 was like this one pretty much imo. Most teams now are not going for wins, playing for pens . Morocco, Croatia both. Both sides concentrate on defence instead of attack. Makes for poor games.
I fecking hope so. There's a dearth of talent in that position.
For striker to make a comeback we would almost have to see a return or re-imagining of some form of hybrid traditional winger/wide forward?
I think the wide forward coming in and shooting on the stronger foot has thing got a bit stale in recent years outside of the elite. Teams have possibly got better at defending it through over exposure, the games needs something new to shake it up.
starting to look like one since ro16.
Either one sided match or 120minutes borefest, nothing in between. Aus vs Argie was decent, Croatia vs Japan was good for 45minutes I guess
Contrast to group stage
Either one sided match or 120minutes borefest, nothing in between. Aus vs Argie was decent, Croatia vs Japan was good for 45minutes I guess
Contrast to group stage
That Brazil v Croatia game was fascinating, despite the low scoring.