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YesHe should go to Israel and checkout the Gaza border.
YesHe should go to Israel and checkout the Gaza border.
In that case, now that the people in Gaza know what Hamas has done, it is possible that the Palestinians will rebel against Hamas. Because what Hamas did has practically destroyed all possibilities for peace.No. I think they want to live in their own country in peace. That was obviously never in the cards with a paramilitary terrorist organization being controlled by Iran representing their interests.
Has there ever been any pushback by the Palestinian populace of Gaza against Hamas in the past?And Israel walks in and kills them anyways.
I think so. That's what I wrote bellow the tweetWhat's this article suggesting? The Palestinian people are being held hostage by Hamas?
I read there was a civil war between PLO and Hamas. And Hamas has killed many Palestinians.Has there ever been any pushback by the Palestinian populace of Gaza against Hamas in the past?
Disclaimer: I know nowt about bombs.Yea, it's not correct. The army seems to have crap spokespeople as well as crap intelligence, crap ethics, and crap isr. 900kg is huge, to the point its hard to think of something comparable. For reference, 2x the video above, 2x a tomahawk, or something.
I'm trying to find a video of the M118 to show it, but doesn't seem to be much as it's rather an old bomb. (Israel don't have any anyway)
During this years “Guardian of the Walls” military operation in Gaza, Israeli made significant use of the GBU-28, an older 5,000 pound “bunker buster” weapon,” in order to target Hamas’ so called “Metro City” tunnel network.
How? Threaten to throw stones at them picked from the rubble of their homes due to Israeli bombs?for the people in Gaza the right thing to do in this situation is to catch all Hamas terrorists and supporters and give them to Israel
No one has said that.I also pointed out that there's a distinct difference between sympathy and empathy. But again why let the facts get in the way.
There's plenty of posts supporting the Israeli actions.
There's the sheer hypocrisy of claiming one group are evil and barbaric whilst condoning the other side committing war crimes.
Never going to happen. People are busy trying to not get hit by bombs, and most of the population are barely teenagers. They have no weapons and Hamas is armed to the teeth. They aren't going to start a miniature civil war with no water, no food, no sleep and bombs dropping everywhere.In that case, now that the people in Gaza know what Hamas has done, it is possible that the Palestinians will rebel against Hamas. Because what Hamas did has practically destroyed all possibilities for peace.
I know it is difficult to rebel against Hamas, but at this point any solution is difficult, and for the people in Gaza the right thing to do in this situation is to catch all Hamas terrorists and supporters and give them to Israel.
If you want to see the photos (GRAPHIC alert: containing murdered babies in blood and burnt toddlers) , check the X timeline of @Israel & @BenShapiro ....That doesn’t link to any pictures or other sources
300kg warhead as per the articles. That's a 'bunker buster' so it's very heavy to slam through concrete and steel before exploding.Disclaimer: I know nowt about bombs.
That said Israel seem to have a number of GBU-28s. These are apparently 4,700lb.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GBU-28
https://breakingdefense.com/2021/10/israel-to-request-americas-new-gbu-72-bunker-buster-bomb/
Now I see! In which case maybe this "4,000 Tonnes" is counting the whole package rather than the payload.300kg warhead as per the articles. That's a 'bunker buster' so it's very heavy to slam through concrete and steel before exploding.
They don't know anything. I read that most of Arab media (even Hamas' traditionnal enemies) aren't buying the narrative that Hamas would have intentionally massacred children... Most of the Israeli civilian victims are being portrayed as "settlers" or "IDF reservists".In that case, now that the people in Gaza know what Hamas has done, it is possible that the Palestinians will rebel against Hamas. Because what Hamas did has practically destroyed all possibilities for peace.
Oh, something else too. I have never been to Israel or Gaza, but a Greek friend who has been to Gaza told me that they have fantastic beaches, better than most Greek beaches, and the whole Gaza could live just on tourism. Obviously, if the area was peaceful. It doesn't matter that Gaza is small, you do not need a huge country, in Europe there are smaller countries than Gaza. An autonomous and peaceful Gaza could become the Riviera of the Middle East. Of course, this is an impossible fantasy today.No. I think they want to live in their own country in peace. That was obviously never in the cards with a paramilitary terrorist organization being controlled by Iran representing their interests.
Only if it suits them. The narrative in the media is driven by Western interests. If the US and Europe decide to look the other way, any war crime can be brushed under the carpet. It is not like UN has any power on its own. And if any other media puts out news on war crimes, they can be denied or ignored.has obligations under international law to prevent – not further – the commission of international crimes
Plenty. Back in the civil war Hamas chucked those who disagreed with them off buildings.Has there ever been any pushback by the Palestinian populace of Gaza against Hamas in the past?
What was this possibility for peace of which you speak?In that case, now that the people in Gaza know what Hamas has done, it is possible that the Palestinians will rebel against Hamas. Because what Hamas did has practically destroyed all possibilities for peace.
I know it is difficult to rebel against Hamas, but at this point any solution is difficult, and for the people in Gaza the right thing to do in this situation is to catch all Hamas terrorists and supporters and give them to Israel.
There was no possibility of peace in 2023. And the reason is due to what you can read in this report. For people that aren't Hamas this is the crux of the issue, that's te primary reason why peace isn't an option.In that case, now that the people in Gaza know what Hamas has done, it is possible that the Palestinians will rebel against Hamas. Because what Hamas did has practically destroyed all possibilities for peace.
I know it is difficult to rebel against Hamas, but at this point any solution is difficult, and for the people in Gaza the right thing to do in this situation is to catch all Hamas terrorists and supporters and give them to Israel.
France and Germany had many wars, millions died, but they are best friends now. Everything is possible, but both parties should really want it.What was this possibility for peace of which you speak?
Under which circumstances do you think a peaceful resolution was possible, given what's gone on over the past 30 years?
Should the Israelis not do the same with the fascists who made their opposition to peace with the Palestinians quite clear and support the active illegal annexation / settlement of whats left of Palestinian territories?...oh yeah, they elected them into power.....In that case, now that the people in Gaza know what Hamas has done, it is possible that the Palestinians will rebel against Hamas. Because what Hamas did has practically destroyed all possibilities for peace.
I know it is difficult to rebel against Hamas, but at this point any solution is difficult, and for the people in Gaza the right thing to do in this situation is to catch all Hamas terrorists and supporters and give them to Israel.
Any armed underground resistance of note or does Hamas have that under wraps?Plenty. Back in the civil war Hamas chucked those who disagreed with them off buildings.
That's completely irrelevant and I don't see any parallels at all. As far as I'm concerned you're living in a fantasyland, I'm afraid.France and Germany had many wars, millions died, but they are best friends now. Everything is possible, but both parties should really want it.
Yep, I think it's a misquote + rounding up error to make it sound bigger and better(????) and scarier. (ps. they apparently only had 55 GBU28s delivered) - What they've perhaps done is taken their biggest normally used bomb which is around 900kg and multiplied it by 6000, then used short tons to make it sound better and come out with 4000 tons.Now I see! In which case maybe this "4,000 Tonnes" is counting the whole package rather than the payload.
Germany were made accountable by International institutions, Israel as a country is not held accountable for breaking international laws and multilateral agreements. This is fundamental, there is no possibility of peace or any actually effective solution if one side is never accountable.France and Germany had many wars, millions died, but they are best friends now. Everything is possible, but both parties should really want it.
It is very likely that Hamas want as many civilian casualties to,shame the Israelis… but they can’t really phisically prevent people from getting out if they are allowed to (by Israel or Egypt)What's this article suggesting? The Palestinian people are being held hostage by Hamas?
I mean the Soviet threat had a big part to play in that. And masses of American money.France and Germany had many wars, millions died, but they are best friends now. Everything is possible, but both parties should really want it.
The problem for both Israel and Egypt is where would they go. Neither population would countenance 2 million refugees running around (with inevitable hamas fighters hidden amongst them) - And I can't think a single other country would accept many?It is very likely that Hamas want as many civilian casualties to,shame the Israelis… but they can’t really phisically prevent people from getting out if they are allowed to (by Israel or Egypt)
The only Gaza groups to have challenged Hamas rule in some way since they seized power have been small Salafi-Jihadi cells linked to the al Qaeda and later ISIS affiliate group in the Sinai. From what I recall there was some speculation that they received some support from Egyptian and Israeli intelligence, but this was not verified.Any armed underground resistance of note or does Hamas have that under wraps?
Subjugating natives does generally end in peace. Just doesn't end well for the natives.Germany were made accountable by International institutions, Israel as a country is not held accountable for breaking international laws and multilateral agreements. This is fundamental, there is no possibility of peace or any actually effective solution if one side is never accountable.
It'll be difficult for Israel to even get collaborators, given the scale of the suffering they are causing in Gaza. Hamas will have eyes and ears everywhere, and far too many sympathisers for any sort of organic movement to breathe against them without being vaporized.Any armed underground resistance of note or does Hamas have that under wraps?
The main thing was that (after millions died) people were fed up with war and decided they should just forget the past. You can always justify another war, it is hard to put an end to grievances.I mean the Soviet threat had a big part to play in that. And masses of American money.
Oh trust me, I had many more questions. Frankly speaking, it was a lot of waffling and hot air, with little substance and moral backbone at the end. I was just trying to be nice (not that he saw my reply).*That's* your question after reading all that?
No, he doesn't think the entire territory was peaceful prior to the recent Hamas attack. I can't imagine what you're trying to imply.