Yea, I just used the 'temple mount' colloquialism for it, without even realising that jews call that the wall too.Not that it matters at all in terms of that picture, but technically it isn't really considered a mosque, although it's often mistaken for one. It's pretty much a unique building in Islamic history in terms of its antiquity, architecture, function, and significance, and is therefore difficult to categorize, but is maybe best described as a commemorative shrine.
Technically yes but it is a mosque in practical terms.Not that it matters at all in terms of that picture, but technically it isn't really considered a mosque, although it's often mistaken for one. It's pretty much a unique building in Islamic history in terms of its antiquity, architecture, function, and significance, and is therefore difficult to categorize, but is maybe best described as a commemorative shrine.
Hopefully this won't be enough for the protesters. Attempting to orchestrate the judicial coup should be disqualifying for Bibi's government.Reform dead in the water. Majority to stop it.
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This has definitely developed tonight from stopping the judicial changes to getting rid of the dictator wannabe.Hopefully this won't be enough for the protesters. Attempting to orchestrate the judicial coup should be disqualifying for Bibi's government.
Same sameWow. I’m not getting my hopes up yet but wow.
Hopefully!This has definitely developed tonight from stopping the judicial changes to getting rid of the dictator wannabe.
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I'm just waiting for events to unfold as well. But the sooner that POS is out of business, the better a lot of people will feel. Netanyahu should have been brought in front of a judge for all of the corruption charges a long time ago.Wow. I’m not getting my hopes up yet but wow.
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I don't think we're getting there quite yet. Netanyahu is stuck between the rock and the hard place with all the different interests of himself (the trial), his nutty family, his coalition partners. I suppose the judicial "reform" will be halted later today, though the fact it hasn't happened yet shows just how much Netanyahu has lost it and lost power. Once that happens, I'm not sure where we'll go from there. The labour union won't continue the strike in order to bring Netanyahu down or anything. That may be a longer term thing.It's all getting a bit "dictators last stand" over there.
He's already on trial. It's just taking a longggggggggggggg time and will take much longer. That's part of the problem as it has given him time to try to influence his own future in court (and jail).I'm just waiting for events to unfold as well. But the sooner that POS is out of business, the better a lot of people will feel. Netanyahu should have been brought in front of a judge for all of the corruption charges a long time ago.
Wow. I’m not getting my hopes up yet but wow.
What hopes? This has nothing to with Palestinians. Only a few hundred brave people are protesting as part of “the block against occupation”, those are our allies. These are status quo protests. Democracy for Jews.Same same
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It's certainly more likely than before. Universities and stuff are closed now, a lot of envoys around the world have resigned, there's the Gallant fallout, and the prospect of a Likud splinter.Hopefully this won't be enough for the protesters. Attempting to orchestrate the judicial coup should be disqualifying for Bibi's government.
Protests right now a microcosm of Israeli society. The occupation posters and activist left *prevent* the centre left/secular left/centre right from mobilizing in general, because their antics make people angry and they haven't wanted to ally with them. However, 'enough is enough' and when it becomes too much, those people join in. Likud entertaining the far right is doing just that. It's completely separate from the Palestinian issues. For example, tweets like this are common:Tweet
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This is true, and at this moment in time it may be most accurate to view these protests as acting on behalf of the status quo, with the Palestinians an afterthought (if even). But I think (and hope) it may be a formative moment on that question for at least a few Israelis capable of making the connection. Couple of videos from the last few days showing some protesters explicitly calling for equality for all, end of occupation, etc:
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The anti-occupation block is so minuscule it barely registers, but to call them a joke and a means to whitewash the protests is wrong. They are doing what they can and catching hell for it from all sides.Tweet
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Well said.The anti-occupation block is so minuscule it barely registers, but to call them a joke and a means to whitewash the protests is wrong. They are doing what they can and catching hell for it from all sides.
From an analytical standpoint, the protests stem from a paradoxical, whitewashing, pinkwashing and murderous ideology. Nothing democratic about this. It is about maintaining the current flavor of apartheid, the easier flavor to sleep at night to and to defend internationally. It really is frightening how deluded the masses are in thinking they are “democratic in DNA”. This country has never seen a democratic day. From war, to military rule, to occupation and apartheid.
Interestingly, this is a prelude as to what may happen in the US if Trump ever becomes President again. The parallels are pretty interesting - both under legal scrutiny - one "reforming the judiciary" the other promoting to "destroy the deep state" if reelected.I'm just waiting for events to unfold as well. But the sooner that POS is out of business, the better a lot of people will feel. Netanyahu should have been brought in front of a judge for all of the corruption charges a long time ago.
edit: This is the police chief in Tel Aviv.
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Not into an the details but I think the one line summary is that the majority parliamentary can override any supreme court ruling, essentially removing all barriers for the government to do what they want.What are the main points of this judicial reform people are protesting against?
The anti-occupation block is so minuscule it barely registers, but to call them a joke and a means to whitewash the protests is wrong. They are doing what they can and catching hell for it from all sides.
From an analytical standpoint, the protests stem from a paradoxical, whitewashing, pinkwashing and murderous ideology. Nothing democratic about this. It is about maintaining the current flavor of apartheid, the easier flavor to sleep at night to and to defend internationally. It really is frightening how deluded the masses are in thinking they are “democratic in DNA”. This country has never seen a democratic day. From war, to military rule, to occupation and apartheid.
I believe there are important structural differences between Israel and the US which means outcome and nature of civil unrest would be entirely different. Trump is far more scary than Bibi.Interestingly, this is a prelude as to what may happen in the US if Trump ever becomes President again. The parallels are pretty interesting - both under legal scrutiny - one "reforming the judiciary" the other promoting to "destroy the deep state" if reelected.
From Wikipedia (3 sources for the paragraph):What are the main points of this judicial reform people are protesting against?
He's boxed in, between the far right abandoning him and Likud splintering. Meanwhile he has to keep power to ward off corruption charges.
The new government is seeking to subjugate the authority of he Supreme Court to the Government by allowing the Knesset to overturn Supreme Court rulings and the government to appoint judges. So the function of the Supreme Court would essentially be to rubber stamp whatever a 51% majority in the Knesset comes up with at any given time. The Supreme Court has the reputation (not always deserved) of standing as the only meaningful institution that provides a check on the absolute authority of the government, including in the West Bank. Netanyahu is pushing these reforms largely to protect himself from prison. Smotrich and Ben-Gvir (and others) are pushing them so that they have a free hand in the West Bank to pursue their ultimate goal there (escalation of violence in order to provide pretext for expulsion of Palestinians).What are the main points of this judicial reform people are protesting against?
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These Arab MKs are talking to themselves. Nobody is listening, not Arabs in Israel, and definitely not the protesting Zionist left. The strike was decided by the Union of Local Authorities in Israel.Arabs getting involved:
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Above tweet google translated as:
“This is a critical hour! There is a real opportunity to overthrow the fascist legislation, and an opportunity to grow from the protest to a broad camp that demands equality, democracy for all and the end of the occupation! But Netanyahu has his back against the wall, he knows that patriotism is the villain's last refuge. We will not allow him to drag us into a nationalist war so that he can keep his seat!”
But with the delay and end to the general strike, what are the chances of a new election anytime soon?Polling data - exciting stuff.
- If an election was run today, the 'left' could win 61 seats WITHOUT hadash-ta'al (rendering the balad siphoning inconsequential)
- Likud and the far right would be stuck on 54, hadash-ta'al would get 5.
- Gantz (who is kinda a joke and betrayer) is blowing up huge, impossible to know if he could take the PM spot over Lapid
- Quite good news for Arab parties; hadash-ta'al couldn't blow up everything, but on contentious stuff they would matter.
- No more Shaked, Ben Gvir, or Smotrich. Time to get Bibi into jail.
- Vulnerable to palestinian terrorism. Major incidents would drive likud support over the need for 'security'
- Bad news for settlers, sadge.
Highly unlikely. Not because of the delay and end of strike, but because the coalition parties would hold on to one another while the polls look like that. This government, now more than ever, is a once in a lifetime opportunity to them.But with the delay and end to the general strike, what are the chances of a new election anytime soon?