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Jadon Sancho| Staying at Dortmund for now
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Eh?
Couple of things:
- A player never really moves directly to Liverpool or vice versa, or they risk a reception of outrage akin to Figo moving from Barca to Real.
- Why would they be outraged? Because Dortmund said he wouldn't leave, even though they did the same trick with star players before?
They'll be outraged because they didn't sell him to Bayern. It's the highest honour for any Bundesliga club and it's fans to produce a player fit for Bayern, they're the only league where half and half scarves are a necessity and seen as an essential piece of kit. They may as well just call it the Bayernsliga.
It was obviously a little exaggeration
I explained the situation in another post, though.A bit over the top? We`re not direct rivals with BVB like Bayern, Sancho is not a homegrown player like Reus(which would be a more fitting example) and even though BVB fans will be disappointed they all know Sancho was bound to leave sooner or later and him staying is just prolonging the inevitable their anger towards Zorc would be heavy but this same guy in the past said players wouldn`t be sold and they left and the fans know this so it would simply confirm what they already know about him and their club in general
Bayern is the most unpopular club in the Bundesliga. Nobody likes Bayern fans. They generally behave like most United fans in this thread.
in theory, yes. But I think there's several issues that prevent that from happening. The first real problem is Bayern's stranglehold of the league ... they simply operate in a different universe than the other BL clubs, both in terms of money and reputation. Then there's the fact that leagues like PL and La Liga have a higher standing, also for a lot of players. Dortmund are a really solid club, but at the end of the day, is being second best in Germany and a last 16 team in the CL enough to really convince a player to stay when top teams from Spain or England come callling?
If they want to move beyond the stepping stone image, they need young top German players who are willing to reject Bayern and foreign clubs to help build a foundation. Thing is, none of their crown jewels are/were German ... and none of them came to Doetmund to be there long-term. Dembele didn't, Sancho didn't, and Haaland and Bellingham surely didn't either.
but it's true, it's the same thing in Austria. Either people love Bayern or they absolutely despise them. Most people hate them.Who the hell is this guy
EDIT: didn't even see the dumb United dig
my bad.Don't know who you think you're fooling, you even copied their name but just changed a letter Bayern / Bayer ... real subtle.
Nice one
Just one of the many, many Bundesliga patrons that bestow this forum with their passive aggressive jibes and keen analysis.Who the hell is this guy
Feel free to bugger off.
Ultimately it all comes down to the wages they can pay. If they can offer the same salaries as top clubs, they might convince players of staying. Not only because they can earn the same but also because the very fact that they can pay those wages will attract players of similar quality which could allow them to challenge for titles. Until then, they're chanceless in the long run, that's correct. So I think their strategy is pretty on point. Buy cheap, sell expensive and try to keep those talents around for as long as possible while doing so. In the meantime, grow your revenue streams and develop new ones until you're there. As I said, a few years and they might surpass Arsenal financially. That's already a great accomplishment. It's a gradual development.
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He's just hurt because he knows it's true.
Let the records show that the Bundesliga fans have been complete tossers this entire saga as well.
Applause for cojones
BVB are enjoying and exploiting the sunshine that being associated with Manchester United brings. If I was their head of marketing, I’d also insist that the club draws this saga out, because of the exponential relevance it brings.
It’s temporary though, as once we sign him, which we inevitably will and with BVB’s full blessings, they will immediately go back to being a team only their fans care about.
you may think that’s arrogant, but its simply an accurate summation of the status quo.
I think we'll be getting him, just a matter of time now.
It's even worse on reddit, almost all Sancho threads are just full of Dortmund/BL fans with chips on their shoulders.
I don't know what happened behind closed doors, but I haven't heard of anything or have any reason to believe they have any cause to be annoyed at United.
Regarding the Mkhitaryan story, if I remember it was Raiola acting like the cnut he is an breaking furniture. He represents the player, not us. Personally I'd be very happy if we never dealt with him or any of his players, even if it means we miss out on players. But Dortmund have forgiven and continue to do business with him, so I'm not sure they have a problem with us.
Also the fact that we don't play in the same league, we've haven't faced off in European competitions, and Bellingham and Halaand aside, we were not even in for the same profile of players. United are potential customers rather than rivals.
If they are trying to switch gears and want to be treated as rivals it explains a lot, but at this point of time it's more wishful thinking than fact, and seems like them getting a bit ahead of themselves.
And we go again with Haaland next year. He is only there as a stepping stone before going to the PL.
Given their public comments on him they seem to already know he would like a transfer.
Though i'm not sure how the Bayern fan in this thread that is claiming transfer requests don't exist in Germany thinks Thiago managed to convey his desire to Bayern.
I thought the bundesliga started this weekend. Looks like another week. Still time to get him in before he plays any regular season matches in germany.
Come on mate personal terms are usually agreed before a bid ever goes in for a player. Yes it breaches Fifa rules but almost every club does it.
Clubs don't makes huge moves for players they don't already know for certain want to join them.
No shit.
And people wonder why the Bundesliga fans seem to consider us to be tossers.
Cup starts this weekend, so Dortmund will have a match. Although they'll probably rest him given that he played for the national team and they are playing minnows.
It can be both at the same time
But as I said, as a fan of a Bundesliga club not named Bayern you're used to such comments, so nice try.According to reports United was irritated that Dortmund insisted on a intermediary because that's rather unorthodox. This might be a sign that Dortmund had certain reservations but who knows.
I don't think Zorc and Watzke are so deluded that they think they're playing in the same tier as United already. For me it was more about explaining why Dortmund fans might be extremely pissed if Sancho still moves after their statements - and why I don't think that those statements were hollow ones. All this talk of a deadline etc. would've been pointless adding fuel to the fire if they'd intended to sell Sancho anyway. If they just said something like "Sancho has a contract until 2023, we want to keep him and until somebody meets our demands, it stays that way" nobody in Dortmund would've gotten their hopes up and this wouldn't be such a delicate topic now. So my theory is, they had a gentlemen's agreement with Sancho and now that the deadline is over, they can backtrack without breaking their word. So you either provide them enough of an incentive to eat their words (Sancho strike or a sum bigger than they initially asked for) or he stays.
The transfer gossip thread on their own sub is one of the saddest reads i've ever seen on reddit
It’s also usually with the blessing of the selling club i believe. So negotiations will go on and on till an agreement and then an official bid or somewhere close finally put in. BVB will obviously be making noises if we tap up their player without consent, same like we will do if Real negotiates with Pogba. It’s only generally my belief though
So far, it's been a blessing in disguise from BVB.
Please state what I wrote that isn't true.
This i do not know. But i believe BVB will be made aware of it by the player’s camp
But surely you must understand, “next season’s” budget is in the CURRENT FY. It is you who I can’t take seriously.
Ha ha! Was only joking mate.I am being the nice guy here
But if we don't sign Sancho. I'm holding you responsible.
Once it gets past a certain point yeah probably true in most cases. But i'm sure most clubs sound players out about a move and roughly what they'd expect to earn before ever making contact with their clubs.
He’s pretty much right though depends on how you want to look at it. Most of the Caf consider Bundelisga fans to be tossers as well, looking at the way they have posted the past few weeks on a Manchester forum
We remind them of bayern fans? We're back to the top boys
I thought you are on redcafe long enough to get the reference.
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