You don't watch him play in Bundesliga (or CL i assume) and judge him on about 3 games in the WC. Okay, understood.
Jamal Musiala
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Well there are players going for 100m based on WC performances.
You have seen not much apparently. It's obvious that Musiala as a talent is a tier above Sancho and Greenwood.
Time will tell If he will fulfill his potential.
Tier above Sancho for sure. But Greenwood has insane potential. No one finishes like he can with both feet mind you.
Bayern fans are getting ahead of themselves on this one , I really don't see how he's this generational talent that their hyping him up to be based on the eye test and I've seen quite a lot of him.
Quite the obvious troll attempt.
You have folk saying he's a step above the likes of Sancho and greenwood in the talent department , I consider that to be a much more flagrant statement than my obvious troll attempt.
Much better than Greenwood, same level as Sancho.
Greenwood was a bigger talent than Sancho, it's not even an anti-Bundesliga bias, we had the opportunity to see both at United and Sancho's never shown a 3rd of what Greenwood did.
I don't think you realise quite how good Greenwood was.
For starters, absolutely noone who hasn't massive Man Utd blinders on would consider Greenwood in the same bracket as Sancho or Musiala. Greenwood was severely lacking in his overall game, until his last half-season before his massive general talent deficit of being a ... you know.. surfaced. No need to discuss this any further.
Then, I'm pretty sure those 'folk' who recognize Musiala as the generational talent he quite obviously is would have also recognized Sancho's undeniably exceptional talent. Musiala however is performing a more central and difficult role in a much better team, at times with considerable defensive responsibility, and hasn't shown Sancho's tendency to be out of form for periods of the season, if you must compare them.
Greenwood is/was a brilliant footballer.
He was only brilliant for the last few months of his career, against minnows. Not comparable to players who actually are integral performers over a few seasons, and in top level games at that.
Not as much as you guys obviously, but I like the kid though, and do hope he becomes special.
United fans have seen plenty of Greenwood and Sancho, and so far Sancho has shown a fraction of what Greenwood did, I haven't seen enough of Musiala to form an opinion on him
He was as good as any other player his age in the Premier League. Playing under an inept coach didn't help.
United fans have seen nothing of Sancho yet.
Maybe we have and maybe we haven't but what we have seen so far is way behind what we saw of Greenwood in a similar timeframe
I still don’t understand how United (temporarily?) ruined such a can‘t miss player as Sancho.
Not if you compare performances at the same age.
And what we've seen, and heard, from Greenwood over the last year is way behind everyone bar Benjamin Mendy.
What's your obsession with PL defenses. You should have a look how man goal Bayern scored against Arsenal, Chelsea or Tottenham.
Can't see anything exceptional about their defenses.
Bundesliga attackers experience, on average, a 33% decrease in goal productivity when joining the PL so it's actually a very valid observation.
Greenwood rarely ever started a top game. Best team he scored against is Spurs. His goals came against crap teams like Norwich, Bournemouth, Burnley.
Yeah it's quite the accomplishment.
living up to your award I see. You clearly don’t watch many premier league matches if you don’t rate greenwood as a footballer .
He deserves more awards than that, he's the Bundesliga Gigachad.
None of that is true.
What are you on about
You’re pulling facts out of your arse now to support your ridiculous argumentAh ha ha
Can we stop arguing which English player is better?
I can literally think of a Greenwood goal v Liverpool almost right away
Guess you guys just remember it wrong..What are you on about
https://www.transfermarkt.de/mason-greenwood/leistungsdatendetails/spieler/532826/plus/0/verein/985
Noone cares about the FA cup.
I'm not sure what point you are trying to make. Greenwood was a first eleven player.
Oh so it doesn't count?
Or the Bundesliga by the looks of it
Noone? As in Craig Noone? 14 appearances and 1 goal in the FA Cup so I'd say you are wrong.
You were questioning the quality of Bundesliga defenses against Bayern.
Bayern destroyed the defenses of Arsenal (several times), Chelsea and Tottenham. All top 6 teams.
Also I can't think of any striker from Bayern moving to the PL. The last striker moving was Haaland, who even got a better goal quote in the EPL than at Dortmund.
Werner was the only German striker and he was a Bayern reject.
Not really, only for United which is fair enough but Sancho was putting up numbers only Mbappe outperformed in terms of young forwards.
Ive watched Greenwood in the academy, he was awesome but would do well to reach Sancho's level at Dortmund.
Let's hope for the sake of every football fan that Musiala can, at some point - maybe when he's matured and entering his prime years, reach these legendary levels of output:
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