RedFish
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3 points would be fitting.
3 points would be fitting.
That's not how fines work!Lampard could work, early days but he hasnt said anything completely stupid yet.
On Carragher, some people seem to be justifying one event by the other. Dad's an idiot and I hope a judge fines him "what the Mirror paid you plus £1". What Carragher did is scummy - apart from potentially being 'assault' (so my Sol mate tells me), I do that and my company sacks me instantly. He'll probably get some gardening leave and tiptoe back in in a few weeks.
I knowThat's not how fine work!
I hope the girl gets every penny of it
Bravo Steve3 points would be fitting.
At the end of the day it’s child abuse. He physically assaulted a 14 year old girl.Shouldn’t he get a suspension, then?
Yes but one is famous and gets paid to be a celebrity. So he must behave no matter what. The other is a prat but a nobody. Agreed Carragher was provoked, but absolutely no excuse. Should be sacked and shamed for this. Worse than Gray and Keys’ lad humour.
Given the distance he manged, the other end of the studio.d
Where does carragher sit?
Re-read the entire exchange (with multiple posters) and you'll understand why I had to over-exaggerate.Is it because I just woke up, or is that actually big Sam? Please tell me that's big Sam!
Anyway as far as I'm concerned Carragher should be suspended by Sky for a couple of months. Banning him until the end of the season fits in nicely with the time frame of the season.
Also, this is why I fecking hate the internet:
I think him, Neville and probably Redknapp and Henry are pretty irreplaceable for Sky at the moment. If it was one of their part time pundits they wouldn't be on tele again.His pundit career is over with sky I would think.
You can gloss over many indiscretions, but lobbing a lugie at a kid because your team lost and the banter got too much is not one of them.
Depends on what Sky want, I reckon they weren't arsed about Marsh he brought feck all to them really and is easily replaceable. Rumours are they wanted rid of Keys and Gray and that helped them massively. The rest they wanted to keep so did, I don't think there's a criteria people can compare it to really.Keys and gray sexual harrassment - fired
Rodney marsh toon army - fired
Kirsty gallagher / paul merson drink driving - not fired
Where does carragher sit?
Toward the end of the video, the dad began to show concern for his daughters welfare after he learned she had been spat on. Somewhat belated, maybe, but clearly he was concerned.Agree with all that.
The father didn’t know carra was going to spit like that, who would? And he’s just playing the embarrassing father to the girl, she doesn’t sound like she’s fearing for her life (as some are making out)
The only thing that shocked me about the father was that he was not livid once his daughter had been spat at. Spitting is not a normal reaction to anything!!!
Yeah the dad clearly wasn't thinking straight at the time. He was likely caught up in the moment following an epic United win over our biggest rivals, noticed Carra driving beside him took the opportunity to give him some banter - rather tame banter at that - probably not the wisest move considering his daughter was sitting in the passenger seat next to him, but there is no way he could have expected such a vile reaction from Carra. Having never been a position like that myself, I'd like to think I would pass on the opportunity to give Carra some banter after considering my daughter was with me (then again my little girl is only 7 so she'd be in the backseat anyway) but who knows.In fairness, I suspect a majority of people criticising the dad, can do so from a position of never having driven along whilst on their phone filming themselves goading the driver in the car next to them. Also safe to say that anyone who can say they have done this is a bit of a bellend.
It's not the sort of thing a normal (non stupid) person would do.
By that logic you would be banning a large percentage of drivers nationwide. Most of us are not perfect beings like your fine self.No, I haven't. People like you should be banned from driving.
Are you okay with drink driving too then? Believe it or not, that is actually less dangerous than using your phone according to statistics.By that logic you would be banning a large percentage of drivers nationwide. Most of us are not perfect beings like your fine self.
@TheReligionWhilst the dad was obviously wrong but some people are kinda equating his act with Carragher which is wrong. What Carragher did was an act of a scumbag, the dad was irresponsible but any equivalency to spitting or drunk driving are stupid.
Occam's razorI had started to come around to the idea that Jaime was a decent and respectable pundit. Turns out, he is just a jumped up scumbag.
Don't quite get these points here. You're excusing breaking the law and being at risk to every other road user cos United won? So you'd happily use your phone after a game and be confident it's ok to do what the Dad did if United won that game? Give all the banter you want but not at the risk of others surely that's common sense? If the guy crashed in to the back of me cos he was filming his banter video for whatever reason I wouldn't go "Ah you're a United fan and you were giving Carragher some shit? Not to worry mate." I'd think the guy was still a dick.Yeah the dad clearly wasn't thinking straight at the time. He was likely caught up in the moment following an epic United win over our biggest rivals, noticed Carra driving beside him took the opportunity to give him some banter - rather tame banter at that - probably not the wisest move considering his daughter was sitting in the passenger seat next to him, but there is no way he could have expected such a vile reaction from Carra. Having never been a position like that myself, I'd like to think I would pass on the opportunity to give Carra some banter after considering my daughter was with me (then again my little girl is only 7 so she'd be in the backseat anyway) but who knows.
By that logic you would be banning a large percentage of drivers nationwide. Most of us are not perfect beings like your fine self.
Let's not lose sight of that fact that Jamie Carragher is the guy in the wrong here. The dad was stupid for recording a video on his phone whilst driving (no I have never done that before you ask!) but absolutely did not deserve Carra's reaction, not in any way shape or form.
You probably shouldn't throw around terms like child abuse for incidents like this, it's pretty insensitive.At the end of the day it’s child abuse. He physically assaulted a 14 year old girl.
Yes the dad in also a tool and should be done for using his phone while driving.
That does not excuse spitting on a child though.
Suddenly I'm on trial?Are you okay with drink driving too then? Believe it or not, that is actually less dangerous than using your phone according to statistics.
Not to take this off topic but what happened with Rodney Marsh? I haven't heard of that one.Keys and gray sexual harrassment - fired
Rodney marsh toon army - fired
Kirsty gallagher / paul merson drink driving - not fired
Where does carragher sit?
He said Beckham turned down a move to Newcastle cos of "The Toon Army in Asia" obviously referring to the Tsunami that had happened. It's a bit different for Sky cos it was said on their TV programme, they should control it more and would argue that could be the case of Keys and Gray to, the others did stuff out of their working time.Not to take this off topic but what happened with Rodney Marsh? I haven't heard of that one.
Given the distance he manged, the other end of the studio.
Will Liverpool players be wearing Jamie Carragher t-shirts before the next game?
Compared the Toon Army to a Tsunami. Not long after the 2004 disaster. The bell.Not to take this off topic but what happened with Rodney Marsh? I haven't heard of that one.
He said Beckham turned down a move to Newcastle cos of "The Toon Army in Asia" obviously referring to the Tsunami that had happened. It's a bit different for Sky cos it was said on their TV programme, they should control it more and would argue that could be the case of Keys and Gray to, the others did stuff out of their working time.
What a pleb!Compared the Toon Army to a Tsunami. Not long after the 2004 disaster. The bell.
I think I remember Tony Cascarino refering to Armand Traore performance against us as 'a holocaust'. Ridiculous really.