Why? The job he’s doing (if the job spec is to be believed) isn’t remotely that of a TD.
Presumably he will be given a title that actually reflects his role.
Jason Wilcox - New technical director
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Presumably he will be given a title that actually reflects his role.
this is more exciting than the football we dish up
The idea that Southampton would get upset about a director wanting to further his career by joining one of the largest clubs in the world in Man Utd and likely receiving a massive pay rise seems a bit far fetched to me. Fans getting upset is a different matter, but surely no serious business people looks at this with anything but understanding?
Thread title is a bit optimistic
In a city in the northwest of England, Jason Wilcox has gone from the football genius of our time to an incompetent nobody in the span of a few hours.
keep slaying, queen xx
For Fletch's good in terms of the eyes of the general fanbase who don't actually know what he really does, I think the club should re-name his role as youth team co-ordinator or something like that, if only so that Fletch doesn't keep catching strays for no reason. The club did a fairly dumb thing in giving him that title when that's not his job.
All the exciting stuff for United fans this season involves corporate and management affairs. The official annual review will be 30 mins long, with the first 29 mins being dedicated to INEOS, Berrada, Wilcox and whoever else joins, and the last minute will be some United fan walking to the OT centre circle, squatting down and taking a shit before signing off with ‘And there’s an abridged review of our games this season’
With most of our new board members on gardening leave until next year, bring on the 2026-27 season! I can sense our rivals shitting themselves in advance 
and by then the football they were nearly good at cultivating will no longer be relevant. we should be hiring the best boardroom neymar, not the fat, injured one that’s already porking his sister.With most of our new board members on gardening leave until next year, bring on the 2026-27 season! I can sense our rivals shitting themselves in advance
Huh
Had a look at the Southampton forum, I suppose its typical for online talk, but they don't exactly seem gutted to see him go
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Their transfer model in summer 2022 basically relegated them.
Bazunu, Lavia, Edozie and Juan Larios all signed from Man. City under 21s for over 50m. They also bid 15m for Liam Delap who since then has had three loan spells in the championship where he's done o.k but nothing more.
Made all the money back on Chelsea seeing Lavia's potential, Bazunu remains first choice but Edozie still struggles to get a game and no idea what happened to Larios. Last summer they signed Shea Charles and Harwood-Bellis from Man. City aswell.
Think it's just the frustration of being established prem club, losing a few experienced players like Romeu and Bertrand and replacing with a bunch of kids. Then after sacking Hasenhuttl they made a catashrpohic manager appointment in Nathan Jones but not sure Wilcox was to do with that.
He obviously leaked it to the press personally during the game, the bastard.
As if it would affect the players on the pitch on by it leaking during a game anyway.
I agree, the club did him no favours with that job title. It’s confused Rangnick and some of the fanbase
To me it said a lot about Ralf and/or the state of the club that he didn't know what Fletcher's real role was when he was drafted in to help him. He was possibly caught on the hop as he was dealing with a bit of a crisis and possibly hadn't thought to ask. Technical director is a bit of a catch all term anyway and means different things at different clubs. They obviously could and probably should have qualified which department he fell under within his role title.
Yeah, I was more puzzled why the opinion of a random Saints fan would be of any interest
Seems pretty dumb to turn down 12 months' pay for him. They're going to have to keep paying him and you wouldn't imagine the offer will go up the longer they wait...so eventually he'll leave for less than 12 months' compensation, possibly even zero I suppose.
So this have impact on wether Dan Asworth joins or not or what's happening and what will he do that Dan won't? (So many names being rumoured and positions, I've lost overview)
Also is this guy any good?
Have Southampton not been shit for a while and why is he there?
Also is this guy any good?
Have Southampton not been shit for a while and why is he there?
Southampton are just after a fat cheque like everyone else when United come knocking.
Will be interesting to see how Wilcox and Ashworth is resolved.
Will be interesting to see how Wilcox and Ashworth is resolved.
Seems to be the norm with anything in football (especially us) nowadays.Yeah, I was more puzzled why the opinion of a random Saints fan would be of any interest
Random guy shouting something… tick, football employment law experts on the Caf… tick, couple of journalists using United for a clickbait story… tick, coming, not coming, gardening leave, quitting, not quitting. All in a few hours
If Ornstein says it, I’ll go with it. If Joe the random Twitter account says it, I tend not to…
Is this confirmed or what? Is it a good move?
Thread title seems to suggest its confirmed? Or this is April fools? Confused right now.
Thread title seems to suggest its confirmed? Or this is April fools? Confused right now.
I reckon I could do a job…. (I can plant the hydrangeas!)
Here we go again..
This is like the 3rd time this has been asked in this very thread, (and it's only 5 pages long!). It has no affect on whether or not Ashworth joins. They're 2 different roles.
Are we also still potentially getting Dougie Freedman as head of recruitment? That one went a bit quiet.
CEO: Berrada
DOF: Ashworth
TD: Wilcox
HOR: Freedman
Big step up from Arnold, Murtough, & Fletcher
Be interesting to see what roles Murtough and Fletcher play after the reshuffle.
CEO: Berrada
DOF: Ashworth
TD: Wilcox
HOR: Freedman
Big step up from Arnold, Murtough, & Fletcher
Be interesting to see what roles Murtough and Fletcher play after the reshuffle.
Manchester United involved.
Murtough assistant kitman. I remember reading Fletcher role was a bit misleading, he actually sounds like he's done a wonderful job, he's the pathway from the Academy to Senior team. And with that respect we've had Garnacho and Mainoo come through, I wouldn't change Fletcher if he's been doing well with the link between the two.
It seems is different from the rest, clubs can force employee to go on garden leave. I see a purpose with contract with players because of huge transfer fee but why non-playing staff. Does clubs pay another club a transfer fee and sign on bonus? To me, it is just a job. Anyone can serve out their notice period, might it 1-3 months before joining the next club. It seems football employment policy is still very outdated. Anyone is free to leave unless as notice period is served, just like to current policy in most companies. Asking employee to go on garden doesn't work or expecting a compensation of 1 year salary.
Great summary!
If you want a sound and informed opinion of Fletcher then listen to Mitten. Fletcher is well respected and will find a role in the new set up.
Why would sotn put him on a year of paid gardening leave? Not like we are a rival?
It's a negotiating position to get more money. Nose is probably a little out of joint as well given he only joined last year.
Amazing how we have the ability to nick very competent people from other clubs and decided to stick with Ed Woodward and friends for a decade.
Its like you have a gun and decided to throw chopsticks at a robber in your house. I know that sounds american but its true.
Its like you have a gun and decided to throw chopsticks at a robber in your house. I know that sounds american but its true.
You've clearly never seen Jet Li use chopsticks
I wouldn’t kick either to the curb if they have a valuable contribution to make.
Regarding Fletcher, if indeed he had a significant hand in helping shape that pathway from youth to senior football, then that’s one thing we can say has worked well in recent years. We’ve brought three huge talents through lately; Greenwood, Garnacho and Mainoo. No one’s fault, except Greenwood’s, what happened with him. The results from that perspective are hard to argue with.
Indeed, Freedman is the last outstanding move on the leadership side. My only question with him is, I know how great he's done to get english talent to Palace, does he have any track record with international or high level talent?
They have lots of gardens to take care off.
So will Murtough. I think he’s a valuable employee that was given too hard of a job to succeed. The glazers were holding everyone back waiting for a cash injection. In a more background position for sure, his work rebuilding the academy was superb really. He was trying to be positive in a sea of negativity and indecision. If he was recruiting linking and looking after youth he’d be an asset to INEOS.
We are creating a think thank of supposedly great football minds. It’s all just a load of city dudes and Ashworth. Will it all still be a load of shite? Maybe it still will. It’s the hope that kills you.
It feels like there is an emphasis on best in class domestic or local based talent so far and that’s cool.The signs are very encouraging that we are going to be movers. Will Brailsford start giving the lads big inhalers next year?