Jean-Clair Todibo

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He is quite meh isnt he? Aggressive but often out of position? I cant stand another Bailly-like defender
Tell me you have never watched todibo play without saying it directly. Todibo and out of position is a big lie...he literally covers for the other CB lack of pace. If he comes he would be coming to replace varane and ensure maguire leaves
 

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Tell me you have never watched todibo play without saying it directly. Todibo and out of position is a big lie...he literally covers for the other CB lack of pace. If he comes he would be coming to replace varane and ensure maguire leaves
Heard that before :)
 

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Tell me you have never watched todibo play without saying it directly. Todibo and out of position is a big lie...he literally covers for the other CB lack of pace. If he comes he would be coming to replace varane and ensure maguire leaves
Nowhere near as dominant as Varane in the air thouugh?
 

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How does this work then if Radcliffe owns or part owns both clubs involved in a transfer? Say he orders Nice to sell Tobido to Man United for 50p and a curly wurly - surely that’s breaking some kind of rule? I thought uefa had laws against dual ownership, yet Sesko is passed between the Red Bull clubs like it’s nothing. Am I missing something?
 

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Tell me you have never watched todibo play without saying it directly. Todibo and out of position is a big lie...he literally covers for the other CB lack of pace. If he comes he would be coming to replace varane and ensure maguire leaves
To be frank our fans are so terrible at properly judging a player to the point that some calling him meh actually encourages me to take a punt on him.
 

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How does this work then if Radcliffe owns or part owns both clubs involved in a transfer? Say he orders Nice to sell Tobido to Man United for 50p and a curly wurly - surely that’s breaking some kind of rule? I thought uefa had laws against dual ownership, yet Sesko is passed between the Red Bull clubs like it’s nothing. Am I missing something?
How do the RB group clubs sell players to each other for 1/2 the market value or less.....
 

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How do the RB group clubs sell players to each other for 1/2 the market value or less.....
I suspect that will end up in charges sooner or later

its not really fair to the marketplace, it’s like taking over multiple football manager game roles under different names then transfer all the best players to your favourite team for peanuts whilst selling all your dross to them for millions
 

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I suspect that will end up in charges sooner or later

its not really fair to the marketplace, it’s like taking over multiple football manager game roles under different names then transfer all the best players to your favourite team for peanuts whilst selling all your dross to them for millions
I'm not sure there's been any obvious transfers between multi club ownership that weren't fair market value:

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/the...ull-salzburg-to-rb-leipzig/index/galerie/2128

Sesko was around 24M euros, which is a fair market value at the time - I don't think he's done enough to say he's worth significantly more than that straight away.

Even Allan Saint-Maximin went for £23m, which was pretty low by most peoples standards.

I think someone will have to take the piss by selling someone way under market value or way over, for the bigger team to benefit, for it to ever be an issue. It is not in their interest to take the piss as FIFA/UEFA could easily turn round and ban multi-club models off the back of it and then they'd be fecked.
 

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I'm not sure there's been any obvious transfers between multi club ownership that weren't fair market value:

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/the...ull-salzburg-to-rb-leipzig/index/galerie/2128

Sesko was around 24M euros, which is a fair market value at the time - I don't think he's done enough to say he's worth significantly more than that straight away.

Even Allan Saint-Maximin went for £23m, which was pretty low by most peoples standards.

I think someone will have to take the piss by selling someone way under market value or way over, for the bigger team to benefit, for it to ever be an issue. It is not in their interest to take the piss as FIFA/UEFA could easily turn round and ban multi-club models off the back of it and then they'd be fecked.
Come on - that wasn't fair market value at the time. Young centre forwards with a high ceiling are hard to come by these days and they got him for a third of the price we got Hojlund for.
 

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I'm not sure there's been any obvious transfers between multi club ownership that weren't fair market value:

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/the...ull-salzburg-to-rb-leipzig/index/galerie/2128

Sesko was around 24M euros, which is a fair market value at the time - I don't think he's done enough to say he's worth significantly more than that straight away.

Even Allan Saint-Maximin went for £23m, which was pretty low by most peoples standards.

I think someone will have to take the piss by selling someone way under market value or way over, for the bigger team to benefit, for it to ever be an issue. It is not in their interest to take the piss as FIFA/UEFA could easily turn round and ban multi-club models off the back of it and then they'd be fecked.
If United had bid for either it would have been double the price. It’s enough for them to go under the radar
 

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barely had any chances here at Benfica... we could have gotten him really cheap :(
 

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Come on - that wasn't fair market value at the time. Young centre forwards with a high ceiling are hard to come by these days and they got him for a third of the price we got Hojlund for.
If United had bid for either it would have been double the price. It’s enough for them to go under the radar
It is fair market value for a lad who'd only ever played in the Austrian league. I think you'd struggle to see anyone pay more than that for Sesko at the time, he was just the one in the papers. Alvarez went for about the same, Vitor Roque for a bit more, there's plenty of other strikers out there with a high ceiling - it's quality now that's the problem.

It's hard to speculate what we would have been quoted, without having inside info. They paid way over the odds for Naby Keita for example, I personally don't think they are some bad actor and creating issues for other clubs.
 

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I'm not sure there's been any obvious transfers between multi club ownership that weren't fair market value:

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/the...ull-salzburg-to-rb-leipzig/index/galerie/2128

Sesko was around 24M euros, which is a fair market value at the time - I don't think he's done enough to say he's worth significantly more than that straight away.
Do you think if we came knocking that same summer we’d have got him for 24m? I suspect we did exactly that and were told 60m+ to put us off.
 

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Do you think if we came knocking that same summer we’d have got him for 24m? I suspect we did exactly that and were told 60m+ to put us off.
Probably not, but that 24m probably has some sort of sell on fee too, so there's that to consider too. We could have easily been quoted 40m and told them to feck off, it's hard to say stuff like that unless we know what we were willing to pay, if we inquired and what we were quoted.
 

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Would be nice to get an RCB in who can play at fullback or on the right of a back 3, which I gather he can? We could have either Lisandro or Shaw step into midfield more, and just play Maguire against big strikers and leave him out against smaller, quicker ones.

Vs. Brexit teams:
Shaw-Lisandro-Maguire-Dalot/Todibo

Vs. not so good non-Brexit teams, play like City:

--------Lisandro-----------------------
Shaw--------Maguire------Todibo

Vs. good teams or strikers Maguire will likely struggle with:
Shaw-Lisandro-Todibo-Dalot/WanB

Might work out for another year, then move on from one of the RBs and Maguire in 2025 and buy starters at CB and RB, with this summer the focus being on a proper box to box midfielder to upgrade on McTominay (and selling McTominay might bring 25-30M of the fee that might cost), a striker who's more reliable than Martial, and Todibo or a similarly

Basically, Eder Militao or Kounde would have fit really well here.