They play as a 3 man midfield, Maddison plays as a LW that roams about.
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I'm aware mate. Just wanted to see what response I got from the poster who I originally responded to.
Explain yourself…
I agree with him not being good enough but his use for Ole is undeniable as he is our best presser by far and is crucial to our ball retention. His movement also opens up space for others. That said his attacking output in terms of assists and goals is horrendous, he will need to be replaced among others. But like Ole said its a rebuild it will take time to complete.
To be fair, he’s not a bad option to have in the squad. I’m not a fan of his but given his experience and work rate, he’s worth a place in the squad. I mean we have the EL, FA Cup, League Cup and a long PL season ahead. As odd as it is, replacing him as a squad player would be a needless waste of money.
I’m all for giving youth a chance but we still need experienced players to go with them. The problem with Lingard is that he’s not a squad player and is generally a starter when fit. If he were to be confined to purely a squad role I would be happy, but unfortunately it appears that he will remain a starter.
The biggist myth on the caf since a long time. His movement is most times pointless, check out the Wolves game for example
One game where his movement is pointless doesn´t make a case. There are plenty of better games where his movement has, sadly that in it self isn´t enough to give him a place in the starting line up.
He was poor against Wolves, so yes it was mostly pointless in that one. Other times his movement can be decent, and sometimes it's even very good.
His movement is only effective against sides that doesn't park the bus, where we can catch them on a quick counter attack where he can run with the ball.
But against sides that park the bus and who's main concern is defending, he is pretty much a waste of space because he doesn't possess the passing range that's needed to break them open.
This appears to be lost on some people. His best games have generally come against stronger opposition who don't sit back and he can then exploit that space. He is absolutely useless in games against the likes of Burnley etc, as he doesn't really have the ability to unlock a defence when teams sit back to defend. Wolves looked to play on the counter the other night and he was absolutely terrible as he had no space to exploit.
Yeah, it's really a shame because if only he had above average passing ability he would have been an amazing player for us.
It is an assumption based on 1000s of games gone before. If a team like wolves sits extremely deep and plays very negative and is well organised a player in the hole will see less of the ball and won't have space. It's actually basic if you just think it through
The way people talk about his running abilities you’d think they’d be happy with us having a prime Mark Noble as our #10. He ran about just as much Lingard does
Nah, it's a really crap assumption tbh, to suggest that Pogba would be seeing a whole lot less of the ball because Wolves were sitting deep.
He did a little dance and showed off his collection? Great moves
How did you come out with that conclusion i’m Not sure. Most number 10s that are actually good at playing football will try and get on the ball in order to create something, especially when the other team camps and has no desire to play. Our number 10 excels in athletics, so of course his footballing “abilities” come to surface.
The dude is not good enough, and wouldn't even start for wolves, Everton or even Leicester City. How then is he even a starter for Man Utd?
Number tens have historically been played to unlock defenses, which is kind of their role. A top class number ten - which we are so badly lacking - would help us open up teams who are tight and compact. Lingard has proven time-and-again that he hasn’t got the ability to do this on any sort of consistent basis.
But what's the point of then dropping back next to the centre backs and midfielders?
You need to keep your forwards higher up the pitch to advance the ball. All he's doing by dropping that deep is giving a square and safe option.
Compare that to how high Silva/De Bruyne/Salah/Mane stay when playing.
He might feel like he's doing a good thing by helping us build up play, but there's a reason he gets such little goals or assists.
I would rather we kept Mkhitaryan, and used Lingard as a sub for him.
Even though he wasn't as good as we wanted, at least he was productive as well as hard-working.
Now we have no decent RW or no. 10, and Mkhitaryan was accomplished at both positions. That's why we shouldn't get rid of the better players before the worse ones. Same thing with ADM.
Even though he wasn't as good as we wanted, at least he was productive as well as hard-working.
Now we have no decent RW or no. 10, and Mkhitaryan was accomplished at both positions. That's why we shouldn't get rid of the better players before the worse ones. Same thing with ADM.
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Seriously now. Why does he play? I just can't understand it. Ole said so many times that he will be ruthless and that he will give youth a chance. Lingard is shit. We have Gomes who is natural on that position. So why he refuse to try him there?
I understand why Chong or Greenwood doesn't play more. We simply have better solutions there. But on that no10 position we don't. We are only big club who play with attacking player who doesn't score or assist. As someone said; we invented defensive no10
I understand why Chong or Greenwood doesn't play more. We simply have better solutions there. But on that no10 position we don't. We are only big club who play with attacking player who doesn't score or assist. As someone said; we invented defensive no10
Hopefully he is dropped from the squad for Gomes this weekend.
He's a very lucky lad to be where he is. He's got minimal ability and he's also an absolute idiot too.
Mason deserves a start this weekend.
Mason deserves a start this weekend.
Decent squad player, nothing more nothing less. It's disgusting that a club of our caliber has to start him on the right. Shambolic state of affairs this.
Yes
Thank you. I was laughing during the game. The last one is the best.He's our current day Dong Fangzhuo.
Around the club as he has a considerable following and appeal. Dong had the Chinese market. Shitgard has plenty of children who ask mummy and daddy for his name on the back of their shirt.
Man Utd being the Glazers playtoy. Lingard will make them money, despite being at the expense of improving the squad.
Around the club as he has a considerable following and appeal. Dong had the Chinese market. Shitgard has plenty of children who ask mummy and daddy for his name on the back of their shirt.
Man Utd being the Glazers playtoy. Lingard will make them money, despite being at the expense of improving the squad.
Apparently he does a lot of hardwork most TV viewers don't see on their screens.
Tbf, you have to have an 8k tv with super ultra HD. When you get that, you’ll see what a gem Lingard is.
So I'm missing frames with my 4K
?Yup, you’re missing him creating space like it’s an artSo I'm missing frames with my 4K
Upgrade the tv and you’ll see, he’s actually amazing!
Jajajaja. I think even I could have done better with those 3 balls, and I have never been a professional or semi-professional footballer, and haven’t touched a ball in years.
Greenwood buries that chance, unquestionably.
It seems longer Mason Greenwood is not playing in the 1st team the better he is becoming as a footballer.
That is a difficult chance with the ball bouncing just before him. Jesse fluffed it up completely but a better footballer should have got a shot on at least. Jesse is average though admittedly.
Christ that’s poor
Lingard fans should probably look away...
I went back and checked all players stats in the Premier League from the 1st January to today and found the following (I've only counted players with 750mins or more)
Most Assists (Top 14)
10 - Trent Alexander-Arnold
8 - Andrew Robertson
7 - João Moutinho
6 - Eden Hazard
6 - Ryan Fraser
6 - David Silva
5 - Kevin De Bruyne
5 - James Maddison
5 - Christian Eriksen
5 - Matt Ritchie
5 - Paul Pogba
5 - Salomón Rondón
5 - Dwight McNeil
5 - Ricardo Pereira
0 - Jesse Lingard (Joint 137th)
Most Key Passes (Top 10)
60 - James Maddison
53 - João Moutinho
49 - Ryan Fraser
47 - Christian Eriksen
45 - Eden Hazard
44 - Kevin De Bruyne
41 - Pascal Groß
40 - Luka Milivojevic
38 - Matt Ritchie
37 - Gylfi Sigurdsson
7 - Jesse Lingard (Joint 137th)
Minute Per Key Pass (Total Mins / Key Passes)
21.5mins - Kevin De Bruyne
25.6 - James Maddison
26.2 - Willian
29.0 - Pascal Groß
31.6 - João Moutinho
31.7 - Eden Hazard
32.0 - James Milner
34.5 - Mesut Özil
35.8 - Ryan Fraser
36.6 - Trent Alexander-Arnold
120.0 - Jesse Lingard (Ranked 115th)
I went back and checked all players stats in the Premier League from the 1st January to today and found the following (I've only counted players with 750mins or more)
Most Assists (Top 14)
10 - Trent Alexander-Arnold
8 - Andrew Robertson
7 - João Moutinho
6 - Eden Hazard
6 - Ryan Fraser
6 - David Silva
5 - Kevin De Bruyne
5 - James Maddison
5 - Christian Eriksen
5 - Matt Ritchie
5 - Paul Pogba
5 - Salomón Rondón
5 - Dwight McNeil
5 - Ricardo Pereira
0 - Jesse Lingard (Joint 137th)
Most Key Passes (Top 10)
60 - James Maddison
53 - João Moutinho
49 - Ryan Fraser
47 - Christian Eriksen
45 - Eden Hazard
44 - Kevin De Bruyne
41 - Pascal Groß
40 - Luka Milivojevic
38 - Matt Ritchie
37 - Gylfi Sigurdsson
7 - Jesse Lingard (Joint 137th)
Minute Per Key Pass (Total Mins / Key Passes)
21.5mins - Kevin De Bruyne
25.6 - James Maddison
26.2 - Willian
29.0 - Pascal Groß
31.6 - João Moutinho
31.7 - Eden Hazard
32.0 - James Milner
34.5 - Mesut Özil
35.8 - Ryan Fraser
36.6 - Trent Alexander-Arnold
120.0 - Jesse Lingard (Ranked 115th)
If it is a good attempt but Patricio saves it.. okay that can happen but hitting it with your knee while totally free. That is just so bad.
Yup, you’re missing him creating space like it’s an art
Upgrade the tv and you’ll see, he’s actually amazing!
Anyone seen this commercial?
Less Is more?
Less Is more?
Teams he wouldn't get into
City
Liverpool
Tottenham
Arsenal
Chelsea
Wolves
Leicester
Everton
Maybe even West Ham with Lanzini. Could do a job at Watford though. Due to play 40+ games for us this season
City
Liverpool
Tottenham
Arsenal
Chelsea
Wolves
Leicester
Everton
Maybe even West Ham with Lanzini. Could do a job at Watford though. Due to play 40+ games for us this season
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