His climate position isn't recent, it's what he's always believed.
Joe Rogan
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By third party I'm referring to the government (or more specifically - people working in government).
This is really sad when those feckers choose money above common sense. feck Spotify then.
He has also always said things that sound vaguely intelligent but don't actually make any sense.
I used to watch some of his videos when he first appeared, because he was an interesting speaker to watch. But I usually came away wondering what the hell his main point was
It's common sense to not remove Rogan at the request of Young. I'd rather platforms like this didn't start removing artists because other artists disagree with their opinions.
I’m so tired of this argument - it’s not about different opinions, it is about spreading proven misinformation that is potentially dangerous.
It's a sad day for the world of music when Neil Young is set aside to allow this gowl to keep talking shit.
Not even just potentially. It's guaranteed at this point that Joe Rogan's misinformation (or disinformation) has leas to deaths. Probably a lot if them, given his reach.
Loads of things can be potentially dangerous. Stop this nonsense. I don't trust you to decide for me what I should be allowed to hear, read or belive.
Proceeds to feed his own head into a wood chipper because he read it increases IQ. Despite all warnings from people who studied wood chippers for years.
I'd rather dangerous lunatics weren't rewarded with multi-million dollar contract for their dangerous lunacy.
Can you be trusted though?
The bottom line is that he is that now he is so mentally unwell you wouldn't let him park your car.
Rogan is an artist now?
I guess we Should ban holy books as well. Loads of potentially dangerous miss information in there too.
Banning the holy bible would be a good start
With what?
I'm sure worse has happened
To decide for yourself?
Definitely.
I’m all for that!
Ok, trust Rogan and Peterson then. Hell, listen to Trump too. FREEDOM.
Hah, indeed. Better advice would have been welcomed, for sure.
He's a renaissance man. Roid head. Combat sport enthusiast. From Fear Factor to spreading COVID misinformation, hosting alt-right loons and climate change deniers amongst others without question. It's quite the career.
Yea, nevermindDefinitely.
I’m all for that!
Ok, trust Rogan and Peterson then. Hell, listen to Trump too. FREEDOM.
Yea.
Don't give lunatics like Rogan or Peterson a platform. Advice you can take to the bank.
has Neil Young written a song since 1980. Harvest Moon ruled
Best live music show I ever went to. Neil Young and Pearl Jam at Slane. Went to see Pearl Jam. Left completely blown away by Neil Young. I kind of had him down as a twee folk country act so didn’t expect a full on rock star.
I'm a big Pearl Jam fan, and the very first time I saw them on video in the early 90's, Neil Young got on stage and they rocked in the free world together. They go way back and are good friends. If anyone is following Neil Young out of Spotify, it has to be Pearl Jam and all of Eddie Vedders stuff.
That’s exactly what happened at the show I was at.
he's got so many great tracks. Don't really care for his politics but that doesn't matter when it comes to musicians, Young is amazing. Old King and Old Man are classics
Pearl Jam would've been amazing live back in those days, Vedder has great stage presence
If so, must be a lot of lunatics in your universe. Don't listen to them. Is good advice!
I wasn't at the Slane show but I did see Neil Young in Dublin about 10 years ago and it was without doubt one of the best concerts I have ever been to.
This isn't about the government banning anything, it's about the responsibility these content hosts have to not be a conduit for dangerous disinformation. You might think it's trivial, but there's a reason why so many far-right terrorists were radicalized through social media. And it's not only about terrorism. The entire "stop the steal" movement came from Facebook's inability to hinder the spread of the Big Lie. That lead to January 6th in the US, and it's definitely not done yet. The same goes for anti-vaccine movements, climate "skeptic" movements, and so on.
This matters.
As you said, there is genuinely a close to 100% chance that someone died of covid while consuming content from Joe Rogan, espousing anti-vax sentiment. Not sure how anyone could argue against that being dangerous. You can say people are stupid and shouldn't pay attention to this sort of stupid, but that's an unrealistic stance to take, given the amount of idiots in the world.
Are you saying Joe Rogan should be arrested and tried for manslaughter?
Yes, that's exactly what I've said.
On another forum I got into a conversation with a really passionate Rogan fan who kept spamming my responses and links to scientific data that have been reviewed extensively before publication about the vaccine with comments about "listen to the doctors who go on the show".
Then I asked him why he is so trusting of those handful of doctors but so distrusting of the overwhelming consensus of medical professionals and the data staring in his face.
It reminds me of the idea of climate change deniers who act like the entire world's scientific community is in on a huge scam that is top secret (but not secret enough to fool them) and they are being paid money by governments to peddle an agenda. But any contrarian scientist who says otherwise is a brave truth-teller. It's interesting that is the contrarians who get paid big money because they sell books, appear on shows, fly all over the world saying climate change is a hoax and their fans never stop and realise how much wealth they've gained from this endeavour.
One doctor going on Rogan's show to say vaccines don't work is going to be infinitely more wealthy now than all those ordinary unnamed men and women working in labs all day everyday without recognition.
Then I asked him why he is so trusting of those handful of doctors but so distrusting of the overwhelming consensus of medical professionals and the data staring in his face.
It reminds me of the idea of climate change deniers who act like the entire world's scientific community is in on a huge scam that is top secret (but not secret enough to fool them) and they are being paid money by governments to peddle an agenda. But any contrarian scientist who says otherwise is a brave truth-teller. It's interesting that is the contrarians who get paid big money because they sell books, appear on shows, fly all over the world saying climate change is a hoax and their fans never stop and realise how much wealth they've gained from this endeavour.
One doctor going on Rogan's show to say vaccines don't work is going to be infinitely more wealthy now than all those ordinary unnamed men and women working in labs all day everyday without recognition.
One day we will hold politicians to the same standards we hold stand up comedians too.
Rogan is a dangerous man and needs to be deplatformed as soon as possible. One can only imagine the suffering caused by his lies and propaganda.