Bit of a meltdown going on here.This is also very true
Mourinho could have spent the money he spent on Lindelöf on another CM.
This is getting better and better honestly, you keep ignoring my questions.
1. Fellaini is a better CM than Pereira
Wait a minute so you're actually saying that MF Huddersfield fielded yesterday is more skilled, possess better set of skills than our MF?
That's true though. Lindelof still seems like a strange signing. Not that we couldn't do with a CB considering Smalling and Jones being what they are, mind.
Mourinho could have spent the money he spent on Lindelöf on another CM. I didn't see the point in giving Carrick another year either (and he's barely featured, and clearly doesn't have the legs anymore), so he could have freed up some money there too.
It’s about MOBILITY. The Huddersfield players like Billing have the mobility to press hard and high and make recovery runs. Does Matic have the legs to be box to box? Does Carrick have the legs to press and recover?
Again you're just deflecting and nothing more.
Oh the irony is strong with this one
Mobility isn't everything, hello! Our players aren't statues ffs and are technically far superior to Huddersfield's more mobile MF.
He can't quite grasp the fact that players have different qualities.
What is so illogical about a midfield of Matic, McTominay and Carrick playing deeper? Am I wrong that their lack of mobility is not suited to a higher line and harder press? We did press in small parts but the midfield isn’t going to just keep squeezing the whole game. It would make no sense.Oh the irony is strong with this one
I doubt you even comprehended what I wrote given the incoherent mess that you've just responded with.
It's pretty simple. Jose's spending is large enough and the midfield even post injuries good enough to perform well against bloody Huddersfield without lame excuses being made in response. In the end the buck stops with the manager unless he isn't backed. Jose has been backed. Simples.
Not that I have a problem with that performance. I do call out illogical posts when I spot them.
Nor do I have a problem with Pogba. I'd sign him again. But even if I/Pep/SAF make that signing, the manager has to produce regardless.
If Pogba and Herrera are fit there IS mobility in midfield. Do you not understand that the other options we had available did not have mobility? It isn’t Mourinho’s fault that they are all out at the same time. Does that answer your nonsensical question?
Thank you, exactly.
This is genuinely getting ridiculous. How many times has Mourinho played Herrera and Pogba together? How many times in a MF 3? How many times against high pressing teams?
Did it against Everton mate. Is a midfield of Matic, Pogba and Lingard supposed to be defensive or one that is made to sit deep? Did we not press Arsenal away from home, take a 2-0 lead AND THEN sit deep? Did we sit deep in the two games against Spurs? At home do we not own possession and have the defenders press up the pitch? In most of the big games this year Pogba has been out anyway.
In Mourinho's defence our midfield didn't look like it was going to be an issue at the start of the season, he probably didn't foresee Fellaini being out for nearly the entire season and Herrera's form going out the window.
Mourinho could have spent the money he spent on Lindelöf on another CM. I didn't see the point in giving Carrick another year either (and he's barely featured, and clearly doesn't have the legs anymore), so he could have freed up some money there too.
What is the "right system"?
1. Having a player or players who can receive long passes in the final third. Lukaku isn't really the answer
In my opinion,
Just a single game with them all in a MF 3, which tells us he really has no intention of playing MF 3 to, let alone to combat high pressing teams by outplaying them, in footballing sense.
How often do you see Tottenham, Arsenal, City, Liverpool among the other teams going long and hoofing the ball upfront at the first sight of high pressing team?
Not sure I agree. Still yet to make a judgement on Lindelof but its clear why we bought him. But lets stop with revisionism on Carrick. Didnt he go 25 games unbeaten as a starter last season? Also, we were full of joy when he signed his extension. And, he would have been the fifth choice MF at the start of the season. We have been bitten by the fact that both Carrick and Fellaini have missed 90% of the season, Pogba also missed a chunk of it and Herrera has been in terrible form since he first kicked the ball in the Super Cup.
Mourinho could have spent the money he spent on Lindelöf on another CM. I didn't see the point in giving Carrick another year either (and he's barely featured, and clearly doesn't have the legs anymore), so he could have freed up some money there too.
Yes, let's. Because I wasn't 'full of joy' when he signed his extension, I thought it was pointless and wanted him to be given a coaching role instead.
Jesus, you're in all the Jose threads aren't you?
Fair enough but majority thought it was a good move.
I'd argue most thought he should have been replaced before Jose even arrived (due to his age). I didn't mind him getting a new deal to be a backup player but certainly not to be a relied upon starter.
Yeah, I agree. He was always 5th choice. As it happens, now hes 2nd/3rd which isnt a great position for us to be in.
Just because they do it, don't mean it is the right way.
Yeah but we do it against any team, good or bad. You're talking one of the best teams at pressing in Europe at the time.
I understand the need for hyperbole on this forum, but this is simply rubbish and you know it.
Top red strikes again from you...hoe surprising .
Nah, case in point against Huddersfield in the first half specially. They kep pressing and we kept it pass it back till there was no other choice to lump it forward, only for them to retrieve it. Personally I don't give too much of a shit about it but we're not very good at passing the ball out from the back against any team.
They do it because it's effective and because they can, they have been instructed tactically how to to do it and have been recruiting accordingly.
Everyone that watches football and understands a bit about tactics can see that the hoofball is an integral part of our attack. Players aren't arranged wide in order to stretch pressing teams, when you have our CB's passing the ball back to the GK you don't see them running wide immediately, making themselves open for a return pass, instead knowing the GK will hoof it long. Mourinho's fascination with tall players and us having a robust, old school type of anchor CF upfront .
Well to be fair, They have won as much if not more than Jose Mourinho... in Football Manager and Pro Evolution Soccer
Case in point is you saying it's our tactic against all opposition, but then using an example from one half of a game, in which they played a style that hoofball is notoriously good at nullifying. How many of the two goals we scored against Huddersfield came from hoofballs? I'll save you the time, not a single one.
I think it was obvious what @kouroux was saying. We will play long ball against any team who presses us, whereas Pep did against the best team in Europe at pressing. Also not that we will play only long ball but that's out primary way to beat the press.
