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I'm loving the U-turn. As a guy with an unhealthy man crush on Mata, I know my judgement is clouded but it was hilarious seeing people say he can't play away from home.Most wanted rid a week ago
Well considering he was playing in a more advanced role than Rooney and Carrick, so I don't think it was his responsibility to help get the ball off the defenders. I thought he made him self available very well and constantly turned their midfield around and put their back four on the back foot.He was good, but was he that good?
I mean, he should've won us the match (like many others) but obviously created a couple of huge chances.
He didn't really help us play out from the back at all though, in the second half both he and Rooney disappeared.
I still think he should start in our strongest XI but I'm not sure how I'd fit him in.
Work rate has certainly improved. I think he has realised that in order to make it here that a bit of graft is needed.Not saying he is fast but I thought he showed a few good glimpses of pace against Spurs. Chased a few balls down that really surprised me.
Maybe I worded it wrong but When I say physical I don't mean 6ft 4 mean machines, just players who track back, keep the ball under pressure and latch onto second balls. Mata pretty much does none of these things and is only in the team right now due to Di Maria being injured. LVG has no choice but to play him really.What is that based on? He always talks about his "philosophy" and it how it has remained consistent throughout his career and in practically every team he played at he had a player like Mata who wasn't remotely physical. Sneijder at the World Cup, Perez for Alkmaar, Rivaldo for Barcelona and Litmanen for Ajax were all players who didn't exactly relish a physical battle and yet they all played very prominent roles for van Gaal's teams, so I'm not sure what makes you think he requires a team full of physical players. It seems like you just prefer physical players yourself.
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He did against Newcastle too, and he's no slouch when we are counter attacking.Not saying he is fast but I thought he showed a few good glimpses of pace against Spurs. Chased a few balls down that really surprised me.
Rojo ,Falcao and Herrera are above Di Maria, but we will come to him, he is one injury away.Welcome to redcafe. First DDG during early season, then RvP.
I reckon the next big star on the shooting list might be Di Maria. If you are an experienced Caf reader you can sense the ominous atmosphere in that thread and already hear them pitchforks being sharpened once he adds another one or two average performances after his pelvis injury.
I think there is something in that. Not that he can't play away but we have been very poor away, and I do think Mata generally needs to be in a team who are moving well, making runs, passing quickly etc. to flourish. Something we haven't been doing away this season.I'm loving the U-turn. As a guy with an unhealthy man crush on Mata, I know my judgement is clouded but it was hilarious seeing people say he can't play away from home.
To be fair, all the shift in opinions after his last two or three performances really only confirms he hadn't been up to scratch before then. All the praise in the more recent pages in this thread proves that nobody is blind to his positive contributions now that he's started making them.I'm loving the U-turn. As a guy with an unhealthy man crush on Mata, I know my judgement is clouded but it was hilarious seeing people say he can't play away from home.
Thank you Pogue. There seems to be a bunch of people who think they are some kind of Superposters because they always knew how good Mata is. Guess what, we all knew that. He’s been playing much, much better now and deserves the praise. Before that he was quite poor in some games, therefore the criticism was justified. Not really hard to understand.To be fair, all the shift in opinions after his last two or three performances really only confirms he hadn't been up to scratch before then. All the praise in the more recent pages in this thread proves that nobody is blind to his positive contributions now that he's started making them.
To me, the really big difference is the penetrative passing, which just hasn't happened before. The little jinks and tricks we're all seeing are part of the same pattern. Somebody who is finally taking risks and playing with the sort of swagger you need from someone playing a position that should be the team's creative hub.
I think his top speed is actually not that bad, but he has shocking acceleration and turning speed. When somebody is tight and about to tackle he really struggles to get away.Not saying he is fast but I thought he showed a few good glimpses of pace against Spurs. Chased a few balls down that really surprised me.
This is the thing we know what he's capable of doing but have not seen enough of that from him. But now he is starting to kick on and make a real difference. What I love about him is his vision and intelligence, his uncanny ability to pick out defence-splitting passes. As you said, he's playing with a certain swagger and that all comes about from renewed confidence. I hope he gains a little bit of consistency from now because on his game, he's an absolute asset.To be fair, all the shift in opinions after his last two or three performances really only confirms he hadn't been up to scratch before then. All the praise in the more recent pages in this thread proves that nobody is blind to his positive contributions now that he's started making them.
To me, the really big difference is the penetrative passing, which just hasn't happened before. The little jinks and tricks we're all seeing are part of the same pattern. Somebody who is finally taking risks and playing with the sort of swagger you need from someone playing a position that should be the team's creative hub.
Get away maybe but he a fantastic ability of creating space for himself when it looks like there isn't any.I think his top speed is actually not that bad, but he has shocking acceleration and turning speed. When somebody is tight and about to tackle he really struggles to get away.
Definitely, where he lacks pace he makes up with his clever Movement. Just wish he learnt to shield the ball a bit better like silva. He certainly has looked better for us in the last few games though.Get away maybe but he a fantastic ability of creating space for himself when it looks like there isn't any.
Also, his legs are so short, he just doesn't have the stride over that first 5 metres to burst away.I think his top speed is actually not that bad, but he has shocking acceleration and turning speed. When somebody is tight and about to tackle he really struggles to get away.
I sort of agree but think he can definitely play as the 10 in a 4-2-3-1 or 4-2-1-3 or whatever you want to call it.Mata's inability to withstand heavy pressure in midfield is one of the reasons we found it so difficult to play it out of defence in the second half against Spurs. To be fair, Carrick's lack of pace and Rooney's high positioning didn't help either. Blind and Herrera will help when they come back. At the moment, we're a little too easy to nullify.
I love Mata, but he shouldn't be played in the middle against teams that are capable of pressing high and causing us problems.
I think he's struggled at times, but I assume the lack of penetrative passing is more a result of a lack of quality runs up top and time and space to hit the pass, some of which might be partly Mata's fault.To be fair, all the shift in opinions after his last two or three performances really only confirms he hadn't been up to scratch before then. All the praise in the more recent pages in this thread proves that nobody is blind to his positive contributions now that he's started making them.
To me, the really big difference is the penetrative passing, which just hasn't happened before. The little jinks and tricks we're all seeing are part of the same pattern. Somebody who is finally taking risks and playing with the sort of swagger you need from someone playing a position that should be the team's creative hub.
Well I just smile when I see him but yes, he has been switching the play quite well in recent weeks. Not only with long cross field balls but his ability to carry the ball across the field and spread it out wide before he gets forward. Just like his goal against Liverpool.Anyone else smile a little every time he delivers a pin point crossfield pass from the right to switch play to Young with his left foot and Rooney do the same to switch play from the left to Valencia with his right? The quality in midfield with those two dropping back is ridiculously good.
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Thats not really impressive to be fair, nor by him, nor by playmakers in the PL. Fabregas alone has like 12 assists in the PL already, he'll probably end up with 20 assists in the PL in one season. 8 Assists per season is not really special for a #10.Tweet
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