Well I've also just noticed that not only is a sequel planned for SS, there are 3 spin-offs in various stages of pre-prod as well
So I guess there must be some demand for it.Film Justice League
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So I guess there must be some demand for it.SS made a shitload of money. And that's all that matters.Well I've also just noticed that not only is a sequel planned for SS, there are 3 spin-offs in various stages of pre-prod as well
I dont want to conform with what, I think, society wants after the shambles that was BvS and the Suicide movie but this was a joke in so many ways. Holy shit, it was bad.
It felt so uncoordinated like a few random scenes filmed over centuries put together to make an awful montage of a film. The CGI was horrendous which does the film no justice (no pun intended) as its 90% CGI.
Steppenwolf was an awful villain. God knows what the feck he was trying to achieve - was he dead, was he alive, is his mum a box? Barry Allen was too much of a joke. So much forced humour, I forgot to laugh. Superman coming back to life was shit and they probably should not have killed him in the first place. Love conquers all... obviously. It would have been funnier if Bruce said " we need to save Martha".
Gal Gadot is amazing. The Flash scenes were awesome. Loved the moment where Superman eyes were as quick as the Flash. Aquaman and the truth scene was hilarious. Cyborg was the best character. Seeing Deathstroke was pretty fecking cool.
The rest of the movie felt rubbish. No cohesion at all. Whilst everyone hated BvS, I thought they did so well in building up the entire universe. However, this was a massive let down. In an age of origin stories, this movie seriously lacked one. Where the feck did Cyborg come from? How did Flash get his suit?
Finally, where the hell was the scene from the trailer where Alfred says "lets hope youre not too late" Seriously underwhelming film.
It felt so uncoordinated like a few random scenes filmed over centuries put together to make an awful montage of a film. The CGI was horrendous which does the film no justice (no pun intended) as its 90% CGI.
Steppenwolf was an awful villain. God knows what the feck he was trying to achieve - was he dead, was he alive, is his mum a box? Barry Allen was too much of a joke. So much forced humour, I forgot to laugh. Superman coming back to life was shit and they probably should not have killed him in the first place. Love conquers all... obviously. It would have been funnier if Bruce said " we need to save Martha".
Gal Gadot is amazing. The Flash scenes were awesome. Loved the moment where Superman eyes were as quick as the Flash. Aquaman and the truth scene was hilarious. Cyborg was the best character. Seeing Deathstroke was pretty fecking cool.
The rest of the movie felt rubbish. No cohesion at all. Whilst everyone hated BvS, I thought they did so well in building up the entire universe. However, this was a massive let down. In an age of origin stories, this movie seriously lacked one. Where the feck did Cyborg come from? How did Flash get his suit?
Finally, where the hell was the scene from the trailer where Alfred says "lets hope youre not too late" Seriously underwhelming film.
That's true. Still, I'm not sure how much repeat business it'll do if they're not well reviewed again. I saw it last time and won't be going next time if it's the same old story. It'll be interesting to see how JL does this weekend in that respect.
Aw man, now I wanna go see.
Also
So the "he said you'd come" thing didn't happen?
Nah...Looking like a 7/10... Hopefully.
See, the Nolan trilogy isn't a masterpiece for me. The first was decent and the last was pants. Dark Knight is great tho.
Wonder Woman was decent. MoS was better (I like it), and BvS expended cut is decent too. DC is a mixed bag but I tend to like the style and the action so I'm okay with it. Marvel movies have a few really great ones but they're a mixed bag too.
They're comic book movies with super heroes so tbh I just want to be entertained. I'm not looking for character development, Oscar worthy scripts, or Oscar worthy performances, or even lots of humour. Those things can be nice but they're what can make an already great film better.
If there's no dumb action, and special effects, with crazy fights and powers what's the point? Think back to all the movies you watched growing up and think about how many of them would be criticized to fcuk nowadays. We had those fast forward buttons and they'd get used sometimes....
Different times...
I reckon I'm going to enjoy this stoned
The Nolan trilogy was a beyond a master piece. The man made a "movie" from a super hero character. Something, imo, that has never been done before and will never happen again. He brought back to life a legend that was almost killed back in 90s.
Batman begins was a brilliant origin story where he perfectly depicted the creation of this character. We know how he became the Batman, we know why he became the Batman and everything was manufactured in the most logical way possible.
Dark Knight, whilst not my favourite, was an incredible film. Not much more needs to be said. Heath Ledger. The Joker. Two Face. Two infamous villains brilliantly illustrated in one film.
Rises wasnt as great, it was a little rushed. However, it was burdened by the fact that it had to follow in the footsteps of one of the best films of its decade (maybe longer).
Theres so much more I could say about this trilogy. It was beautiful. Some of the scenes were just amazing to eye. One of my favourite scenes ever was the Joker chasing Harvey Dent. The backdrop was amazing. The stunts were legit. The way the music kicks in was
.Also, did I mention Hans Zimmer? Has there ever been a better movie soundtrack? I think not.
Apologies, I should spoiler that post. And
No that didnt happen. fecking shit trailer
Yep, that could be a problem for DC. I'm with you, I saw BvS, and I won't be spending any more money on this franchise, at least not until I'm convinced they've gotten their shit together (which won't happen as long as Snyder is in charge).
I'll say this for BvS and Suicide Squad, they at least managed to retrospectively raise my opinion of Man of Steel.
Tbf, the 3rd film is pretty pants, narratively. But what’s mitigates that slightly is how masterfully made it is. The fact it relied on thousands of extras and huge expensive practical props does somewhat offset the daftness of its script. Especially as the previous films had laid enough thematic and character groundwork to create a certain degree of investment in the goings on, however silly they were.
I mean, when all those thousands of people charge towards each other on Wall Street, you’re not thinking how barmy the situation that lead them there is, because the scene has enough tangible weight and dramatic tension within itself to carry you through... When a weightless CGI pixie floats around a cartoon colour graded sky to vanquish a faceless evil pixel monster, you’re naturally less invested in the scene, and more likely to question the bonkers plotting that preceded it.
What Marvel do well is balance their tensionless CGI end-battles with well established character drama. But if you have neither the personal investment, nor the cinematic heft, you’ve got little more than an empty computer game cut scene.
And saying “hey, it’s just comics”’ doesnt fly either, as even when you read comics you’re automatically adding this gravitas and poignance to the panels in your head. Just as you imagine the voices, or the unspoken thoughts, like you would with any book. When someone just puts the panels on screen with a bunch of floaty CGI, they’re not “brining it to life” as much as they’re taking away any nuance it may have had.
BvS had one of the biggest second week drops offs ever, for reference.
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Yeah agreed. Seems a little weird that Nolan, of all people, directed a story which made so little sense not just as a standalone but also within the context of the small universe he, himself, created.
I love the fact that Nolan minimises the use of CGI in comparison to someone like Snyder. Ive seen the BTS footage for the trilogy and its astonishing just how much work went it to the opening (which was inredible) scene. Its not that bad a film, it simply doesnt meet that standards set by its predecesor. And, tbf, the league of shadows is a little crazy so you cant put bombing Gotham past them.
Yeah, Gotham Sirens which will be Catwoman, Harley and Ivy in some comic capers. Then there is some joker Harley origin story I believe. Also a rumour there will be a dead shot movie then SS2.Well I've also just noticed that not only is a sequel planned for SS, there are 3 spin-offs in various stages of pre-prod as well
Seriously tho the directors cut makes far more sense and is just a better movie. No amount of editing can sort Cara Delevingnes acting tho.
Another saving grace as I imagine he’ll be in them in some part, Affleck is supposedly done and being replaced with Jake Gyllenhaal.
Jesus Christ, how someone can’t see that for all its plot holes, The Dark Knight was well made at least while the Zach Snyder ones weren’t only having a bad story but also suffered from poor directing and just ... film making is beyond me.
Aye, watched it yesterday and I quite enjoyed it. You’re spot on about cyborg and aquaman having needed a movie before this. The first half of the movie almost feels rushed and incoherent - snipping between the different characters and trying to give them some sort of background/screentime etc.
I’d probably give it a 6.5 or thereabouts. I thoroughly enjoyed it. Good entertainment.
Your first paragraph is the problem with the film. How can spend 45 minutes of your film trying to explain the backgrounds in this utterly confusing way? I understand that theyre playing catch up to Marvel but this movie was the worst of the lot. So disappointing.
It definitely wasn’t SS bad though. It’s definitely rushed. I still enjoyed it. But then again I liked BvS to a certain degree as well.
DC fans should be thankful for Nolan... anything since his trilogy in this universe has been a utter shitfest. Found man of steel boring, couldn't get through the new bat man, fell asleep during Suicide Squad and this looks woeful as well.
Can't imagine Wonder Woman being any different tbh.
Can't imagine Wonder Woman being any different tbh.
Jake Gyllenhaal's voice for Batman... hmm. Would've been an interesting dynamic with Ledger's Joker. Leto's version I could do with never happening again.
Think people put too much weight into SS. To me, its a joke and nothing more. I wouldnt even put any consideration into it. I want to look toward something to say "oh, I enjoyed that part" but, other than Gal Gadot, I cant think of anything that was entertaining.
Yeh same rating, i had fun, got what I was expecting but thought it could have been much better
Standalone movies for lesser known characters imo were needed
I get superman and Batman not needing them but cyborg and aquaman defo needed it first
Like, why can he talk to fish? What makes him an aquaman? Who are these atlantians they mention?
For non comic book people this would be a lot to take and accept
Haha I keep harking back to this, but having hated him in the feature movie again with the extra scenes he just seems a lot better and darker. Their story for me is one of DC’s best bits of source material so hopefully they do something intresting with it.
Another problem going forward tho is Ledgers Joker is iconic and an absolute standout that it’ll be an impossible standard to live to. Although the guy playing the joker on the Tv Series Gotham is awesome.
Horrible film and should have been expecting this really. Had to laugh at the classic black man line from Cyborg “Booyah!”
I caught a bit of that on Netflix and must admit he was very good. Easily identifiable without stepping on the other portrayals, or trying too hard to differentiate him by giving him something dumb like, oh I dunno, tattoos and a 6 pack.
Yeah agree with that.
Why? He says that all the time in the cartoons.
Watched the movie, it was pretty good. Second half was a bit rushed and a bit meh. Didn’t seem like a lot was at stake.
I don’t get the severe criticism though. This is how superhero movies with multiple characters turn out to be.
I don’t get the severe criticism though. This is how superhero movies with multiple characters turn out to be.
The superhero films that I have really enjoyed are:
Captain America Winter Soldier
Deadpool
Logan
Guardians 1
Are Ragnarok or Justice League as good as those?
Captain America Winter Soldier
Deadpool
Logan
Guardians 1
Are Ragnarok or Justice League as good as those?
I’d say Ragnarok was really good and JL possibly not in that list coz those are prob my favorites as well.
Just watched this. Absolutely pointless, I don't know what I expected. Maybe my expectations were unrealistic but I've got excited with that cast. The CGI stuff was so badly drawn, and the chromakey on a couple of WW shots was so bloody obvious
Haven't seen the previous one though, which one was it, BvS, I assume, since they referenced it a lot, maybe if I watched it before it would've been a tad better.
Haven't seen the previous one though, which one was it, BvS, I assume, since they referenced it a lot, maybe if I watched it before it would've been a tad better.
Managed to do less than $100m at US opening weekend!
Looks like it may be curtains for the DCEU.
Shame cause I really want to see Cavill get another shot at a great Superman movie.
Looks like it may be curtains for the DCEU.
Shame cause I really want to see Cavill get another shot at a great Superman movie.
They should just hand DCU over to Patty Jenkins.
I always worry when movies directors are changed (whatever the reason) and then we hear of re-shoots.
I always worry when movies directors are changed (whatever the reason) and then we hear of re-shoots.
It’s done nearly $300 million in 3 days at the global box office. DCEU is far from dead.
They just need a rethink.
$20m worth especially, or whatever the final figure was. Implies they lost a grip of it really quite badly. And they can't just blame Snyder for that, either.
Why? Wonder Woman was shite, everybody just loves it because Gal Gadot and because female director= women empowerment or something
I didn't love it but the film (well until the final act) was much better than BvS and Suicide Squad. Felt like a step in the right direction.
Saw this last night. Shite enough. It's basically just one of the Avenger films, only not as good.
It's quite meh. Weak villain, forced humor, plot holes,...
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Is this what a guilty pleasure is? I’ve loved all of Snyders DC films, MoS, BvS and now this, however this was the worst (probably because he didn’t finish it!).
Enjoyed the post credit scene too.
Enjoyed the post credit scene too.
Spoiler man!
Does he where the black suit at least?