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The disparager
Faora.Magic, so hot right now!
As for the superspeed discussion, my favourite visual of it was still the female kryptonian in man of steel. No slowmotion there but you knew she was quick!
Faora.Magic, so hot right now!
As for the superspeed discussion, my favourite visual of it was still the female kryptonian in man of steel. No slowmotion there but you knew she was quick!
Yeah that was good, he did a bit of that for Wonder Woman. The ragdolls were hilarious.Magic, so hot right now!
As for the superspeed discussion, my favourite visual of it was still the female kryptonian in man of steel. No slowmotion there but you knew she was quick!
The absolute best thing about that scene, is that not only did it not need to be in slow motion, but the entire moment was unnecessary, because once the Flash has dramatically run across the walls covered in lightning set to an epic soundtrack and gently pushed Wonder Woman’s sword into her hand, she just.... lands on the ground.Barry pushing WW sword /lasso /whatever it was. Was it really necessary to see him run in slow motion to push the sword?
I guess when it comes to film criticism there's really nothing that can qualify as objective criticism, What would legit criticism look like ? Also I think it's presented as fact due to the over the top nature of the internet.That's the thing, 95% of time I only read subjective opinions and how movie is shit. I don't mind the "I hated it, it's not for me" etc, I mind the tone and presentation of an opinion like a fact, which you see a lot. I have barely read any "legit criticism". The slow-mo thing for example is not "objective criticism", it is subjective thing, I personally like it. The colour thing is, also, subjective thing. And so on.
True although I don't think this a bad thing tbh. Looking at a film critically rather than enjoying it for what it is, can give you a new perspective on the film or can question what you actually like about the film. Is it just a combination of visual and audio hitting you're eyes and ears while sitting in warm room stuffing your face full of popcorn that resulted in a positive experience or was there's something more, was the film saying something on a ''deeper'' level. It also produces a boarder and better level discussion, if people can critically look at film or art then they are able to see a number of different views rather than simply dismissing anything they disagree with. Thats not to say looking critically at film will produce all the answers but it increases the chance of finding some.I do also think people watch films just to criticise rather than enjoy a movie for what it is.
For whatever reason I think some people feel a bit insecure about seeing criticism towards things that have a attachment to.@Sweet Square and @Sylar are right, you guys go well overboard defending stuff like this. It's a forum for chat and debate, you can't just blanket shut down people because you decide what they are thinking.
You can't go into action with a dirty sword.The absolute best thing about that scene, is that not only did it not need to be in slow motion, but the entire moment was unnecessary, because once the Flash has dramatically run across the walls covered in lightning set to an epic soundtrack and gently pushed Wonder Woman’s sword into her hand, she just.... lands on the ground.
She doesn’t turn in one fluid motion to wield it against Steppenwolf, and the sword wasn’t about to fall down a giant chasm or into lava... she literally just lands on the ground and looks at him. It saved her all of about 3 seconds of picking it up off the floor (probably less considering her own inconsistently demonstrated super speed) It’s a literally pointless moment, rendered EPIC!! by its ridiculous OTT presentation. It’s Zach Snyder to a tee. At best he saved her sword from getting a little scuffed.. but in slow motion.
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There'd be absolutely nothing wrong with watching those films and critiquing it in detail. Why would there be?I just find it shocking when people say they hate everything Snyder does, hates MoS and BvS, then watch a 4 hour Snyder Justice and to their surprise, hate it.
It’s like me sitting through Love Actually, or Bridget Jones Diary. Then writing an essay to review how terrible it is. I find it weird.
Dya know what? At first I thought meh, now actually I think yeah go on. Use the lesser known characters, less expectation and go and create something good. See Guardians.I see Zatanna is getting a movie. Fairly obscure character to go with, would've expected someone like Green Lantern or Supergirl to be introduced or reintroduced next.
Fair enough. I still find it weird. Like hating Chinese food and sampling all the best Chinese restaurants.There'd be absolutely nothing wrong with watching those films and critiquing it in detail. Why would there be?
Dya know what? At first I thought meh, now actually I think yeah go on. Use the lesser known characters, less expectation and go and create something good. See Guardians.
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If people kept going on about a certain Chinese restaurant, you might find some people are willing to try it and have their opinion changed.Fair enough. I still find it weird. Like hating Chinese food and sampling all the best Chinese restaurants.
With Snyder, I don't think people are wanting perfection, the film's just aren't that good.Here's the thing. Half of the movies I grew up watching and liking (and probably some of you lot too) were at this level... Or the level of Transformers etc. Entertaining for loads of people but very flawed. We loved them all the same, skipped the boring bits and took the piss out of the silly bits.
Expectation has gone through the roof and people are expecting close to perfection nowadays. Or maybe it's just the internet? Probably that as nobody I interact with in real life gives much of a shit...
Meh...With Snyder, I don't think people are wanting perfection, the film's just aren't that good.
It's more specific than that, if you hate the food that Zack Snyder cooks you aren't going to be keen on his cooking are ya? You definitely aren't going to hang around for 4 hours to find out how you feel about it. Odds are if the starters shit then you're out.If people kept going on about a certain Chinese restaurant, you might find some people are willing to try it and have their opinion changed.
You might know what you're getting with a sweet and sour chicken, but not every sweet and sour chicken taste the same
It's more like enjoying Chinese food and having the misfortune of getting a bad takeaway or visiting a mediocre restaurant .Fair enough. I still find it weird. Like hating Chinese food and sampling all the best Chinese restaurants.
Everything has to be explained to the Nth degree too. Look at wandavision, people were mad it didn't have Mephisto in it when they never even said he would be.Here's the thing. Half of the movies I grew up watching and liking (and probably some of you lot too) were at this level... Or the level of Transformers etc. Entertaining for loads of people but very flawed. We loved them all the same, skipped the boring bits and took the piss out of the silly bits.
Expectation has gone through the roof and people are expecting close to perfection nowadays. Or maybe it's just the internet? Probably that as nobody I interact with in real life gives much of a shit...
Thanks. Yeah she was great in mos.Faora.
There was a confirmed story that he choked and slammed a fan in a fit of frenzy.What's the deal with Ezra Miller?
Dunno about that. I personally thought it was alright, but you're allowed to not like something and say why you don't in the relevant thread.
Yep Hes a lot of style without substance at times.The absolute best thing about that scene, is that not only did it not need to be in slow motion, but the entire moment was unnecessary, because once the Flash has dramatically run across the walls covered in lightning set to an epic soundtrack and gently pushed Wonder Woman’s sword into her hand, she just.... lands on the ground.
She doesn’t turn in one fluid motion to wield it against Steppenwolf, and the sword wasn’t about to fall down a giant chasm or into lava... she literally just lands on the ground and looks at him. It saved her all of about 3 seconds of picking it up off the floor (probably less considering her own inconsistently demonstrated super speed) It’s a literally pointless moment, rendered EPIC!! by its ridiculous OTT presentation. It’s Zach Snyder to a tee. At best he saved her sword from getting a little scuffed.. but in slow motion.
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Or hating a certain Chinese restaurant but keep going back when they change the menu.It's more like enjoying Chinese food and having the misfortune of getting a bad takeaway or visiting a mediocre restaurant .
But literally nobody other than an idiot or sadist would do that. My scenario on the other hand is pretty commonplace. Basically the feeling of disappointment.Or hating a certain Chinese restaurant but keep going back when they change the menu.
But you haven't explained how Snyder's formula is tangibly any different. His style is different, I'll give you that, but that's mainly confined to his visuals. He and the DCEU appear to me to be doing almost everything the same as Marvel, but without the patience, or the off-camera talent. There were as many shit quips in Snyder's justice league as there were in Doctor Strange, for example (and some of the jokes in that were dreadful, by the way).I just want different takes and something fresh, and mainstream movie goers rarely like different things out of their perception of what they find good. This is perfect example. I understand Marvel formula is mainstream and beloved worldwide, but I am personally bored of the same formula.
As I said earlier, his formula is no different than a typical marvel film. Just poor execution.I just want different takes and something fresh, and mainstream movie goers rarely like different things out of their perception of what they find good. This is perfect example. I understand Marvel formula is mainstream and beloved worldwide, but I am personally bored of the same formula.
No, we should never be nice to people like him.Now now let's be nice
Let him spew his usual poison, me not playing along with his fantasy agenda against me really got to him I guess. We are at the primitive insults stage now.Now now let's be nice
Fresh compared to Marvel, I also like the slow movie structure more that lots of people hated here etc. When I say fresh, it doesn't mean groundbreaking or anything. Just not usual Marvel borefest (for me). I mean, superhero movies, you can only do so much with them.But you haven't explained how Snyder's formula is tangibly any different. His style is different, I'll give you that, but that's mainly confined to his visuals. He and the DCEU appear to me to be doing almost everything the same as Marvel, but without the patience, or the off-camera talent. There were as many shit quips in Snyder's justice league as there were in Doctor Strange, for example (and some of the jokes in that were dreadful, by the way).
Just saying the word 'fresh' again (twice) doesn't explain what you think the difference is. Like, what makes it 'fresh'? Also, is the 'slow structure' not simply a byproduct of having a 4 hour long film?Let him spew his usual poison, me not playing along with his fantasy agenda against me really got to him I guess. We are at the primitive insults stage now.
Fresh compared to Marvel, I also like the slow movie structure more that lots of people hated here etc. When I say fresh, it doesn't mean groundbreaking or anything. Just not usual Marvel borefest (for me). I mean, superhero movies, you can only do so much with them.
A bigot calling someone poison? I'll take that.Let him spew his usual poison
I dunno man, let's call it different instead, structure that people talked in the thread already about, the usual cliched "all is lost" moment before the big finale isn't there for example, the structure more similar to a mini series which I like more. And yeah, the style, direction etc.Just saying the word 'fresh' again (twice) doesn't explain what you think the difference is. Like, what makes it 'fresh'? Also, is the 'slow structure' not simply a byproduct of having a 4 hour long film?