To simply regain his confidence by playing disasterless games. For unlike at City he he being picked.
Kalvin Phillips | City Player (West Ham loan watch)
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Brilliant
Why would he want to explain his POV to the ref? Those cards were fair. OK, the ref could had been a bit more lenient on the first yellow, but the second one is a poorly timed studs up challenge where he gets nowhere near the ball.
Is this the worst start to a career of any established players ?
Game 1 - at fault for one goal
Game 2 - at fault for one goal
Game 3 - sent off
Not counting Arsenal when he came on as a 90th minute sub
This is worse than Taibi - who at least had one good game against Liverpool (even if he was at fault for one goal)
Game 1 - at fault for one goal
Game 2 - at fault for one goal
Game 3 - sent off
Not counting Arsenal when he came on as a 90th minute sub
This is worse than Taibi - who at least had one good game against Liverpool (even if he was at fault for one goal)
I'm still confused how Gareth Southgate would explain picking him for England all this time without sounding like someone who needs to find a different job.
Mason Holgate is having a shocker at Sheffield United too after joining in January
Jonathan Woodgate at Real Madrid was quite amusing. Signed August 2004 for £13million - injured for next 13 months. Finally made his debut, proceeded to score an own goal in the first half and was sent off in the 2nd.
Fantastic cameo. Well done Moyes.
He looks like he hasn't played football for almost two years.
This is going well.
Since the euros it's been quite a sad career fall for him.
Yorkshire Pirlo they said.
He truly is shite.
Guardiola’s ruined him.
I think his fitness at Leeds was a big part of his game under Bielsa. It allowed him to get about and cover ground. He is a decent passer and the combination allowed him to influence games.
Not having that level of fitness, or indeed even match fitness, has absolutely killed him. Big moves and big money are never guaranteed to you can understand why players secure their bag when the offer comes but it really was a terrible transfer for him.
If he had gone to Liverpool and gotten his inhaler, he would be starting for England in the Euros.
Not having that level of fitness, or indeed even match fitness, has absolutely killed him. Big moves and big money are never guaranteed to you can understand why players secure their bag when the offer comes but it really was a terrible transfer for him.
If he had gone to Liverpool and gotten his inhaler, he would be starting for England in the Euros.
I do worry a bit for his mental health.
More like Yorkshire pudding
It’s reached the point where as a foreigner wed be told he doesn’t care isn’t giving 100% and is impacting the desssing room
Yorkshire pudding perhaps.
Shit you said it first.
Have you got @One Night Only on ignore?
He didn't have the talent.
I saw it after, I replied to him.
He absolutely sank West Ham's midfield. Shocking how bad he is.
He should sue Pep and City for whatever he can think of. He will be back at Leeds on 20k pw next year.
I think city are in the position to be pissed.
Another City transfer that nobody bats an eyelid about.
Why? For him being shite at football?
Championship level player that Bielsa got a tune out of on a high level. Worst player I have seen at City since the financial doping started
According to Leeds fans I know, he weren't very good in the Championship before Bielsa either but then again Leeds weren't very good as a whole
According to Leeds fans I know, he weren't very good in the Championship before Bielsa either but then again Leeds weren't very good as a whole
Yep. Bielsa is a magician.
Inhaler
4 years left on his contract, absolutely glorious
What would he even be worth now?
It all started with those shoes:
He is bobbins, one of the most overrated players going by Leeds fans at least anyway. My brother in law is a Leeds fan and I watching one of the matches with him, Phillips was playing and I thought he was proper shite then and didn't know what the fuss was about.
Absolute car crash of a loan.
Those are shoes the way a burger is a sandwichIt all started with those shoes:
He's a treble winner. Great signing.
Lots has gone on for him and I think it's disrupted him a lot as a footballer. He had a career apex where he got himself into the England xi and the mega money move to City; probably at the point where he got there, he realised he wasn't good enough to play at the club, compounded by Pep's treatment, he mentally checked out. The weight gain and everything else ensued and he was unceremoniously booted.
It's not just a case of unpausing the button with regard to the intervening period between that apex and the City debacle - he's lost a lot of fitness and confidence in himself and I'd bet his appetite for the game has changed since knowing it'll never get better for him than the apex was, plus having secured the mega contract, it's easier to go through the motions than snap out of the malaise and very probably the mental burdens that come with it. Basically, if he's in the pits, he'll need someone or something to drag him out of it.
If he's one of those that doesn't even like football, getting back to playing isn't the incentive some would think - the bag is in and either way, he gets paid, so there could be a lot of soul searching for him over its duration. If he doesn't pick himself up, however, that'll be the end of his serious earning power as a PL player. At the moment, he wouldn't even be a good earner in the Championship, so there's a crossroads coming up for him that he'll have to directly address.
West Ham has been a disaster for him, but more so for that club. In the end, he goes back to his club, and it's they who are compromised by him stinking it up for them at times of need. Phillips' reputation has taken a hit, but that's not the most pressing matter with years left on that City contract; he still has time to turn it round in that regard.
If we take money out of the equation, he's has a torrid time with crazy highs and lows relative to the low profile he used to have.
It's not just a case of unpausing the button with regard to the intervening period between that apex and the City debacle - he's lost a lot of fitness and confidence in himself and I'd bet his appetite for the game has changed since knowing it'll never get better for him than the apex was, plus having secured the mega contract, it's easier to go through the motions than snap out of the malaise and very probably the mental burdens that come with it. Basically, if he's in the pits, he'll need someone or something to drag him out of it.
If he's one of those that doesn't even like football, getting back to playing isn't the incentive some would think - the bag is in and either way, he gets paid, so there could be a lot of soul searching for him over its duration. If he doesn't pick himself up, however, that'll be the end of his serious earning power as a PL player. At the moment, he wouldn't even be a good earner in the Championship, so there's a crossroads coming up for him that he'll have to directly address.
West Ham has been a disaster for him, but more so for that club. In the end, he goes back to his club, and it's they who are compromised by him stinking it up for them at times of need. Phillips' reputation has taken a hit, but that's not the most pressing matter with years left on that City contract; he still has time to turn it round in that regard.
If we take money out of the equation, he's has a torrid time with crazy highs and lows relative to the low profile he used to have.
West ham has been a disaster for him, but which club wouldn't?
Not sure what you mean?