He's shit, and out of his depth.
Keir Starmer Labour Leader
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Unless his goal is to divide the party.
I suspect his sole objective is to purge the Labour party.
The grown ups are back in charge.
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Depressingly hollow.
This is the side effect of having no principles and weak leadership.
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Corbyn must go.
This is the best the Labour Party could muster? They’re well and truly fecked then.
Was all the self sabotage under Corbyn really worth it? For this shitshow?
The pundits did say that any other Labour leader would be 20 points ahead in the polls, not 20 points behind, right?
Only 2 points away now.
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Mark it in your diaries. September 2021 when Starmer begins the fight back
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Looks like Labour needs to come up with some policies that appeal to older people doesn't it? Any ideas?
Nostradamus.
Sadly not. The closest it got was the 2017 but 1)Starmer isn't going to run that type of campaign and 2)It's already out of date in terms of whats needed.
I don't really see how the party can at the same time appeal to older people(Homer owners)and young people(Renters). The party is basically fecked but with Starmer it's losing it's core base support.
I would say Wilson and Blair got closer but I go back a bit.
True, I just was talking in terms of the current conditions(Or really since the 08 crash), which means the voter coalitions of say the late 90's aren't here anymore so the demands from voters are different imo.
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I go back a lot.
Harold Wilson was a very clever guy who it is said was able to do the Times crossword in his head while on the train from Liverpool to London.
It was a classic Left v Right fight between him and Ted Heath. And Wilson came out on top.
Reads like a circle jerk.
So basically either the entire press is backing a one party state and are delighted he's sabotaging the opposition, or they're all just deluded, self important twats who are thick as two short planks. Or perhaps a mixture of the two I suppose.
Tony Blair would have eaten Boris for breakfast by now.
Man of the people.
So the choice world be between a corrupt pusher of cronyism and populism or a war criminal. Both proven liars.
Surely we can hope for better than that?
2017 is not a good barometer. It was May austerity vs Corbyn anti austerity. With May even managing to piss off pensioners on social care.
The Tories have moved to the left on spending, so basically it's a question of competence and other culture-war type stuff that is really the diff be the two platforms now.
Where are they are going to store all these 9ft aluminium fences in the day? They'd need hundreds to fence off the park, can't see this ever happening.
Also closing it at night really doesn't equate to neighbouring flats annexing it.
The story has a few holes in it.
How on earth did he become leader of the opposition? When asked today if he agrees with Cummings if Bojo is unfit to be the PM, he didn't say yes. He said the PM got a lot of decisions wrong.
He basically lied throughout his leadership campaign.
I have a feeling that he is no way a Labour member who supports the value and ideas of the Labour party. He must be a Tory who has been sent to destroy the Labour party. Even Corbyn would have said Cummings is right that Boris Johnson is not fit to be PM.
Mi5 spy(Only half joking here). But yeah agree with you, it really doesn't make sense as at this point we aren't even talking about policy or even politics really but more about Starmer almost deliberately falling to do the very basic of an opposition. I think there's a lot of truth in the argument that the criticisms of Corbyn by more liberal people over the last 5 years was really just self projection.
Overall it's just a very bizarre leadership so far.
What is the point of an opposition if the Leader of the Opposition doesn't think the PM is unfit to be The PM?
He's in it to a) protect the status quo at all costs and b) the lucrative jobs that seemingly open up the second you leave politics. He's an absolute con man.
I think this is probably extremely accurate.
At least Corbyn was honest. I think if Corbyn has conned his way by saying nice things about the right wing of the party, he would have won.
Also true of the person currently holding the office of Prime Minister, but all he has to do is not comb his hair, wear clothes that don’t fit and clumsily rugby tackle children and everyone in the UK goes “that’s the guy!!!”