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I pity the poor fool who stinks like I do!
It’s funny because it’s so true. There are a dangerous amount of idiots in this country. All of who believe this shite.
It’s funny because it’s so true. There are a dangerous amount of idiots in this country. All of who believe this shite.
I totally agree with you on Cameron and Johnson, 100%, so trying to paint me with some Tory brush is a lie in itself I'm afraid.Hilarious. Yes, nasty Corbyn causing BREXIT.
The referendum, Cameron.
The Tory part split down the middle one half driving for Brexit the other pro EU (now purged)
The shoddy deal by Boris. "Oven ready" apparently, some idiots believed him. Some still do, maybe?
How many lies can you regurgitate from right wing media until you realise you are completely incorrect?
Mail on Sunday? Since when has it been a decent source unless it’s suited for a narrative?
Him being a eurosceptic doesn't make Brexit his fault.I totally agree with you on Cameron and Johnson, 100%, so trying to paint me with some Tory brush is a lie in itself I'm afraid.
The difference is that I blame Corbyn too. I'm actually surprised you haven't studied Labour history, Tony Benn, Barbara Castle, Peter Shore, Michael Foot, the whole left wing of the party, they were all anti-EU. I disagreed with them in 1975 and voted Yes to staying in Europe, but I respect their views, at least they were honest about them.
No, it was the 52% of those who voted in the referendum, who caused Brexit.Hilarious. Yes, nasty Corbyn causing BREXIT.
Look corbyn could certainly have done more to push the benefits of being in the eu... I mean being 8/10 in favour of the eu would have been a start.... even thinking its was 75% good!No, it was the 52% of those who voted in the referendum, who caused Brexit.
However historically the longstanding position on the left of the Labour party was to oppose the EU (as @711 states in a previous post) and as an old style 'lefty' Corbyn was sticking to that view; but as leader of a Party where a sizable chunk supported remain, he found himself in the proverbial position of being "between a rock and a hard place".
However Jeremy should have felt at home, because he had spent virtually his whole political career in taking up such positions.
Not really, Jeremy never truly believed in the concept (or the so called benefits) of the EU as a political Union, he had been against it since 'Adam was a lad'. He was an old fashioned lefty, there were no benefits , at least not what he would call real benefits, that he felt could not have been be accomplished by a strong Labour Government in the UK Parliament unshackled by Brussels. This was at the heart of his dilemma.Look corbyn could certainly have done more to push the benefits of being in the eu...
https://www.ft.com/content/34ec43b9-5dcd-46cd-b284-093e8f13714dHe said it was vital to demonstrate that Labour was not a party of protest but was serious about winning power — and that meant being “very proud” of what it achieved under Blair and his successor as prime minister Gordon Brown when it was last in office.
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Your first paragraph is correct. The rest is inaccurate waffle.No, it was the 52% of those who voted in the referendum, who caused Brexit.
However historically the longstanding position on the left of the Labour party was to oppose the EU (as @711 states in a previous post) and as an old style 'lefty' Corbyn was sticking to that view; but as leader of a Party where a sizable chunk supported remain, he found himself in the proverbial position of being "between a rock and a hard place".
However Jeremy should have felt at home, because he had spent virtually his whole political career in taking up such positions.
Yep, the Labour party are well and truly dead to me.Ken Loach now expelled from the Labour party.
What a sorry state of affairs Keir has caused. He is the very definition of unelectable, even by his own members now, if there was a new leadership election, at this rate.
Oof I'm sure he can't wait to call on the policies of *checks notes* targeting youth & immigrants to bring support back to the Labour Party.Starmer urges Labour to embrace Blair’s legacy as he vows to win the next election
https://www.ft.com/content/34ec43b9-5dcd-46cd-b284-093e8f13714d
Absolutely.Yep, the Labour party are well and truly dead to me.
Unfortunately yes. I may be forced to abstain or vote Green. Regardless of "tactical" voting.Yep, the Labour party are well and truly dead to me.
At least Moyes made mistakes. I now get the impression that Starmer is actively trying to ruin the party.I would rather have Moyes as the Leader of the Labour Party than this idiot.
Don't be silly... as the last couple of elections proved you can vote green and be called a red tory insteadSo your choice at the next election will be between the Tories or the Tories. Brilliant stuff.
I think you are mixing up the Green Party with the LD's.Don't be silly... as the last couple of elections proved you can vote green and be called a red tory instead
Surely you'd be a green Tory, no?Don't be silly... as the last couple of elections proved you can vote green and be called a red tory instead
You obviously haven't followed Jeremy's political career. Jeremy's was a political lifetime of always (or nearly always) opposing the leadership of his own party.The rest is inaccurate waffle.
Is this what Starmer had in mind? Genius plan though, instead of winning labour voters the man was always going for the Tories. fecking despairing it isSo your choice at the next election will be between the Tories or the Tories. Brilliant stuff.
No experience has shown me if you are traditional labour you can only be on team Jezbollah*/ Magic Grandpa* / AntiSurely you'd be a green Tory, no?
That's if you're a Labour supporter, not a fecking greens supporter. You're being exceedingly disingenuous here (although, what's new?), if you are a neoliberal gobshite and still a member of the labour party, you're a red Tory.No experience has shown me if you are traditional labour you can only be on team Jezbollah*/ Magic Grandpa* / AntisemiteIsrael* (pick appropriate name) or your a red tory
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The Greens are what Labour should have been for the last 30 years. Wanting to change voting to a PR like system, prioritising diversity, more money for public services, removing Lords with an elected chamber, human rights, tacking racism, allowing local authorities to secure referendums and obviously green policies.That's if you're a Labour supporter, not a fecking greens supporter. You're being exceedingly disingenuous here (although, what's new?), if you are a neoliberal gobshite and still a member of the labour party, you're a red Tory.
truthThat's if you're a Labour supporter, not a fecking greens supporter. You're being exceedingly disingenuous here (although, what's new?), if you are a neoliberal gobshite and still a member of the labour party, you're a red Tory.
Boris Johnson's visits to the city in recent years have seen him mobbed and cheered in the streets. Even former Chancellor George Osborne – hardly the most likeable of characters – was called on to pose for a few selfies when he last turned up at the Star's Queen Street offices. In contrast, Sir Keir's appearance was greeted with complete disinterest.There was nary a murmur in his direction from any member of the public he wandered past. No requests for selfies were made and no one called his name out. To illustrate the point, a woman approached the entourage with her phone raised, then immediately lowered it when she saw what was in front of her, disappointment etched across her face.
https://www.expressandstar.com/news...-blank-looks-greet-sir-keirs-city-appearance/
I thought that there was freedom of speech and that sort of thing in the UK?Well done Keir & co. Kicking out a Jewish Labour member who has been a member for over 50 years.
https://www.jewishvoiceforlabour.or...sponse-to-his-threatened-automatic-exclusion/
So he signed a letter that saysWell done Keir & co. Kicking out a Jewish Labour member who has been a member for over 50 years.
https://www.jewishvoiceforlabour.or...sponse-to-his-threatened-automatic-exclusion/
So you only want the "right kind of Jew" in the party?So he signed a letter that says
He supports, Ken Livingstone an Chris Williamson
There should be no independent panel reviewing antisemitism claims
MPs should not be expelled for providing a platform for suspended anti-Semites
The IHRA definition of Anti Semitism should not be used when considering disciplinary action in the labour party
And the small number of Anti Semitism allegations was just a smear against Jeremy Corbyn
Yeah good riddance to be honest if he wants to put his name to that