Mateu Lahoz + Raul Garcia, bookmakers don't even give odds on that
Ahem, CL semifinalists
La Liga 2020/21
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Means shit. If pool weren't so fecked up mentally you'd be calling for Zidane's head cause they'd embarrass you over the 2 legsMateu Lahoz + Raul Garcia, bookmakers don't even give odds on that
Ahem, CL semifinalists
Nope. If they end up level in points, Madrid win the title.
If we didn't go through an injury apocalypse all season long we'd be in the final and with the league title wrapped up
And the same can be said about pool
I mean lets be hones this real team is just not good enough
Yeah, so?And the same can be said about pool
They definitely seen better days but calling them "utter shite" is just daft. The title race is very interesting in La Liga this year, something we clearly lack in PL nowadays where the title is usually wrapped long before the end of the season.
Yeah but why is it interesting? Because all the teams in the title race have been shit all season.
Really? Assuming all 4 teams win their last match, they will be on 86, 84, 79 and 77 points in the league. All of them have been pretty solid in La Liga, all qualified for the last 16 of the CL and Real reached the semis. As I said, they are not at their peak but far from shit either.
Mmm. Keep telling yourself that.
Yeah, that's the thing that turns me off a bit from it. It's fun and exciting, but this really is the season who was the least bad, and not necessarily who was the best. Still, credit to Atletico today, it would have been really embarrassing to collapse like that given the lead they had earlier in the season. Just one more game to go.
The English 18-19? A horrible show of how weak the rest of the league was. The number of points City and Liverpool were putting up was obscene
I mean, when you're dealing with juggernauts you know they're gonna win every game, it's rare for there to be this much drama
On saturday atletico and barcelona had gifted us the league, only for us to draw on sunday and give it back to atletico. Then barcelona draw in valencia, then today we're top in the '87th minute...only for dracula to score
There's an uncertainty to it that is just not there with a city-liverpool or many of the madrid-barcelona of the last decade...
Well I think the La Liga race is far more entertaining than the nothingness of the PL these days.
For those bemoaning the "nobody wants it". You have that too, in the PL, it's called the top 4 race and it's the most exciting part of the league this past decade as well, because the title title races surely haven't been
For those bemoaning the "nobody wants it". You have that too, in the PL, it's called the top 4 race and it's the most exciting part of the league this past decade as well, because the title title races surely haven't been
No, it doesn't
And mentioning that RM have one of its worst squads in the last 15 years doesn't say much, considering that their 2012- 2019 squad was probably the best squad Madrid had in 30-40 years, even superior to the Galácticos squads if you take in account that 'galacticos' squad underperformed so bad after Perez dumped Makelelé to bring Beckham(probably the worst mistake made by Perez in his entire RM career).
Shades of the 2007 La Liga title race in terms of excitement, but this has been even more unpredictable than that was. I can't remember the last time there was a title race with 3 teams going neck and neck with each other.
Agree with this. You want to see quality in league title races, not sides falling over themselves with neutrals getting excited becsuse they hate Madrid.
Shit defences, shit attacks, whats there to actually admire?
What a world where Barcelona sells Suarez to Atletico, and he scores a goal that might just have sealed a title for them, or at the very least put them within touching distance of it.
Same thing happened with David Villa too. Barca sold him to Atletico, he won La Liga with them.
Or how strong the best of England was. If you think Barcelona losing 7 times to the likes of Elche and Granada is a sign of an entertaining league, more power to you, I suppose.
History repeating itself at Atletico with Suaurez nearly, one more win needed.
Thank you La liga, for bringing some football joy this weekend... I hope Barcelona drop the neo galactico nonsense and build again from La Masia. Worst run club in La liga getting whats coming to them.
Thank you La liga, for bringing some football joy this weekend... I hope Barcelona drop the neo galactico nonsense and build again from La Masia. Worst run club in La liga getting whats coming to them.
There are two ways to look at it. You could argue that La Liga is as strong as it's been in a long time when it comes to mid table and below.
But you're also right in that City and Liverpool's run in that year was a sign of how dominant they were, rather than a product of the league being relatively weak. You don't win 17 consecutive wins without being extremely good
Atletico have this secured but at least we did our part this time unlike Barcelona, so that should put a little pressure on them but they should still win their last game.
(Disclaimer I don’t follow la liga much and just took a look at the table).
Do they have it though? Don’t they need to get points vs Valladolid, who are in a relegation battle?
I hope this is the case anyway. Should make for great entertainment on the last day.
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Do they have it though? Don’t they need to get points vs Valladolid, who are in a relegation battle?
I hope this is the case anyway. Should make for great entertainment on the last day.
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That would usually be the case, but the three title challengers have spent most of the season taking turns to shit the bed against relegation fodder.
They need to win to guarantee the title. If Real Madrid fail to win, then it's wrapped up regardless of what happens with Atlético.
Let's hope Simeone, Suárez and the rest don't blow it in the last damn fixture.
Also, it's the first time Barca have spent two consecutive seasons without winning LaLiga since 2006-2008...
Good news for them if Zidane leaves, that man consistently wins matches with veteran has-been stars, average youngsters and nothing football...Without Zidane, Madrid are in for a terrible next season, 18-19 style...
Also, it's the first time Barca have spent two consecutive seasons without winning LaLiga since 2006-2008...
Good news for them if Zidane leaves, that man consistently wins matches with veteran has-been stars, average youngsters and nothing football...Without Zidane, Madrid are in for a terrible next season, 18-19 style...
Isn't that a reverse argument of why people usually say the PL is much better than La Liga?
Usually, no matter how close the battle between Real and Barca is, if they're miles clear of the rest most say 'it's just a dull, two team league.' Not 'look at how strong the best of Spain is'. Even in years when those two, and Atletico, were reaching the later stages of the CL, and Sevilla winning the Europa League, so clearly more than two strong teams.
While when plenty of the 'big six' teams in the PL drop points to bottom of the table clubs, it's used as 'proof' of how strong and entertaining the league is as 'anyone can beat anyone'.
Now, when you're having a closer title race in La Liga, and teams running away with it in the PL, the reverse is being argued.
PL fanboys for you.
Great post and 100% accurate, total complete change of outlook and opinion from many EPL fans.
Haven’t celebrated a Suarez goal that hard since the 2015 CL final
It's true. Twists and turns make a title fun
Delighted for Atletico and Simeone. His brilliant work over the last 8/9 years deserves a second league title. Hope they get over the line!
La Liga cannot win here. If Real Madrid or Barsa hammer everyone and wrap it up in March its a farmers league. If the other teams contest important matches and win games and force a three horse race to the wire, it's because the league is bad.
To be fair, nobody was calling it a weak league back in 2014 when Atletico won it then. Might be something to do with all threes Champions League performances over the last couple of years.
There's definitely no special teams in Spain' right now but it's still miles more entertaining than the sorry excuses for a title race we see these days in England.
Madrid was a semifinalist even when they looked like a veterans hospital. What are they supposed to do? Win it every year?
No doubt the PL is the better, deeper league the last 3 years. But these things are cyclical and we'll see La Liga rebound in a couple of years.
Not really sure how it goes this time. The financial issues at Barcelona and R Madrid look severe, without super league cash they'll struggle massively. Barcelona will struggle to even stay in business with their debt pile and reduced revenue. The premier league is hardly a bed of roses financially, but relatively better. Not sure if La Liga clubs will be able to refinance with central bank loans like Spurs and Arsenal have.
Barcelona for sure won't be able to refinance, as most banks are already refusing them.
But they don't look that bad and they have a few options to rebuild:
- sell Coutinho, Umtiti and the other deadwood
- buy 1-3 decent players
- hope Pedri and Ansu Fati really go up a level next season
When it comes to Madrid though, they have nothing to sell and no upcoming prospects from their 2nd team other than the Blanco guy who looks quite decent. On top of that, they've spent 700mil on their stadium.
Their rebuild would need insane money:
- replacement/backup for Modric/Kroos
- backup to Casemiro as he's playing 60 games a season in DM
- backup/replacement for Carvajal (Odriozola is utter wank and Vasquez is very suspect defensively)
- starting striker (Benzema is alright, but he still operates better in the false 9 role than the lone striker)
- right Winger (Asensio/Rodrygo are very average)
- replacement for Ramos (Even though we all know he will stay and Militao+Nacho/Varane is not a bad defensive couple )
Which teams buying these players from them? Barca are in trouble as they have too many players on obscene wages that no one else will pay. Coutinho at best gets a loan where someone pays 25% of his wages.
If Barca want to raise cash, they're going to have to sell the like of De Jong, not their overpaid players as those players aren't taking paycuts and no one is going to match their wages.
Madrid's financial issues are exaggerated by the anglophone press. Pérez claims of poverty are more than anything that he can no longer make wild buys a la Ronaldo or Bale and he cannot bully the state owned clubs like PSG and City.
The wildly quoted stadium deal is a bank loan payable over 30 years at 25 euros million a year including the interests . The numbers are out there in the responsible financial press. That's nothing for a club like them; that's like what you pay for an backup defender at this level.
Yes, the covid thing hit their finances, but Spain is vaccinating well enough and I expect that come next season things will be back to normal over there. They won't dominate the transfer market, but they will rebuild and continue to be relevant.