Seen reports of a £25m release clause. He’s clearly an improvement - but would hope we could do better.
Let's talk 'keepers: who do we buy and why?
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Nik (@Rood) and Imran (@Annihilate Now!) discuss United's fantastic win away against Athletic Club in the semi-final of the Europa League.
They also pick out the positives of United's 4-3 loss away at Brentford, and Nik reviews a day out at Old Trafford watching Manchester United Women qualify for the Champions League.
He tuned down our approach, so unless we were into kidnapping it wasn’t going to happen.
Well we haven’t got £40m spare at the moment now.
Ramsdale is a terrible goalkeeper also
Not really unfortuanetly. Benitez at PSV was going free last I looked, but he'd be a decent #2 at best.
Milinkovic-Savic is a great shout actually. Massive keeper, solid all round, experience at the club and his stats look excellent. I doubt he'd cost a bomb either.
Thankfully, unlike the striker problem, there are a ton of good keepers about we can choose from so budget shouldn't be an issue if we want to address this - and we absolutely need a new #1. I'd put it top of my priority list at this point and throw Zirkzee / Obi / Mr.Free Transfer up top for a year if that's what it took.
I think he decided against a #2 role here behind Onana from the reports no? Pretty sensible if so.
This doesn’t need to be a cause of stress this summer
Steady, calm & reliable (if unspectacular) GKs into their 30s are always available on the cheap
Leno has 1 year left I think, he’s better than Onana by every metric. They got him for a £3m initial fee.
He’s just one example. There will be loads to choose from
Steady, calm & reliable (if unspectacular) GKs into their 30s are always available on the cheap
Leno has 1 year left I think, he’s better than Onana by every metric. They got him for a £3m initial fee.
He’s just one example. There will be loads to choose from
I don't think we will get a new GK if we don't sell Onana given our need in other areas of the squad. That said, there's been talk of Saudi clubs being interested, I think we should really sell him there as I don't see anyone else going in for him. Then we can look at GKs like Verbruggen, Chevalier, Santos or Suzuki.
I felt at the time we made a big mistake when DDG left in going after Onana. We identified Verbruggen and wanted to bring him in with Onana but he chose Brighton because of game time. We should've gone for Sommer who was on a free, bought Verbruggen and promised him cup games in his first year then say he can compete for the no 1 position in his next year. We then could've brought in a decent GK in Sommer who will then be phased out for a younger better prospect in Verbruggen, and this would've been done at almost half the cost of Onana's fee.
I felt at the time we made a big mistake when DDG left in going after Onana. We identified Verbruggen and wanted to bring him in with Onana but he chose Brighton because of game time. We should've gone for Sommer who was on a free, bought Verbruggen and promised him cup games in his first year then say he can compete for the no 1 position in his next year. We then could've brought in a decent GK in Sommer who will then be phased out for a younger better prospect in Verbruggen, and this would've been done at almost half the cost of Onana's fee.
No way to Rasmdale, jesus. Rather try and sign someone like Areola
I didn’t say we were signing him, just explaining why we didn’t get him at the lower fee.
Did the scousers sign that GK at Valencia?
I’d be alright with Ramsdale. He’s PL proven and he’s certainly not remotely a bad keeper like some posts here are saying. He’d also be cheap.
I’d quite happily take an early 30’s “known” keeper if available for peanuts too. Then we can assess the following season on a potential new no.1 and get someone of top potential
One thing we should all be able to agree on though is that Onana is the pits
I’d quite happily take an early 30’s “known” keeper if available for peanuts too. Then we can assess the following season on a potential new no.1 and get someone of top potential
One thing we should all be able to agree on though is that Onana is the pits
Ugh I'm not a fan of Suzuki and 40m sounds like another incoming flop. Would much orefer a PL-proven GK or a cheaper option (Chevalier, Milinkovic-Savic).
Anyone who's main attribute is wold class shot stopping.
Also anyone who can correctly answer the following question:
You parry a shot from the opponent do you:
A ) parry it away at an angle so another opponent attacker cant immediately get to the ball?
Or
B ) parry it back in their path or one of their teammates so they can score immediately?
Also anyone who can correctly answer the following question:
You parry a shot from the opponent do you:
A ) parry it away at an angle so another opponent attacker cant immediately get to the ball?
Or
B ) parry it back in their path or one of their teammates so they can score immediately?
In theory we should just let Højlund and Onana switch places. Problems solved. 
Agreed. Made my mind up ages ago but still hoped he would come good. A terrible purchase.
The problem is that Onana would get sent off all the time for hand ballsIn theory we should just let Højlund and Onana switch places. Problems solved.
Bayindir would probably be another Onana. I read posts here about his time at Fenerbahce and he didn't sound reliable at all. Having said that, I'd give him a go now just to see where he's at.
The problem is that Onana would get sent off all the time for hand balls
I don't know about that. In EA FC 25 he's played many games as a right winger. So it's possible.
We play deep enough that we don't need some sweeper keeper. We also don't really have a build up that uses the keeper so we don't need someone good with their feet. We need a solid, reliable pair of hands.
Suzuki makes Onana look dependable. I watch quite a lot of Serie A and every time I see him he is doing something stupid. Signing him would be like doubling down on the Onana disaster.
I totally agree with this. Unless we are signing one of the most coveted keepers out there, i.e. the next best thing. I'd much prefer to sign a dependable keeper over 30 years old for less than £10m and use funds elsewhere. We literally just need someone who is dependable for a few years whilst the team is built.
I think it's underrated the effect that having such a shaky keeper is having on the current and future growth of this team. An experienced, dependable keeper whilst not spunking the summers funds would be so welcome.
Exactly. If he's that bad you daren't risk him he shouldn't be at the club.
Apparently not good enough for Leverkusen and they want to get rid.
Ideally someone like Martinez. Big personality and top class. No chance though.
We should give Altay a chance till the end of a season and if he's good we could do Altay-Vitek from the next season.
Vitek is tearing it up in Austria and if we're broke we could just sell Onana and go wih what we have.
Vitek is tearing it up in Austria and if we're broke we could just sell Onana and go wih what we have.
Oblak surely
I was only referencing the initial post where it said we are linked with him for £40m. Can't see that happening.
Vitek looked really good in that preseason game. Was hoping he would get a chance.
Replacing Onana with Ramsdale would be totally pointless. If we're going to replace Onana, we should be getting in a dependable keeper, not signing another extremely unreliable one.
If we're going to go for a keeper from the three relegated sides, Hermansen at Leicester would be the one I'd look at. Ultimately, I don't think he's a Champions League level keeper, but in a shite Leicester side I'd say he stands out as at least looking like he belongs in the Premier League.
Not a fan of his save percentage. Leicester probably concede higher quality chances, but still.
Would activate Kovar's buyback and spend the money elsewhere, Kovar is an easy upgrade on Onana, sell Onana and let Kovar and Bayindir fight it out, we cannot afford to spend big money on a keeper but we need to replace Onana
I cannot understand the Ramsdale shouts at all.
The entire issue with Onana is that he's prone to lapses in concentration, which leads to frequent errors. Ramsdale has the exact same problem, only I'd argue he's also a worse keeper.
It would make less than no sense as a transfer. If we're going to go for Ramsdale we might as well just keep Onana and not spend the money.
The entire issue with Onana is that he's prone to lapses in concentration, which leads to frequent errors. Ramsdale has the exact same problem, only I'd argue he's also a worse keeper.
It would make less than no sense as a transfer. If we're going to go for Ramsdale we might as well just keep Onana and not spend the money.
Vitek is doing much better than Kovar and is ours.
Leverkusen want to get rid of Kovar, we'd probably pay less then what we sold him for as he flopped there.
Its utterly daft. If your gonna bring a keeper in make sure hes the proper successor to de gea.
Diogo Costa sounds like a perfect replacement for Onana. He's been brilliant for Portugal and he's a great shotstopper and a specialist for penalties. Lunin and Kelleher are decent GKs as well. Lunin has had a great UCL campaign last year with Madrid and Kelleher is always reliable when replacing Alisson.
I think Ramsdale would make sense in a scenario where funds are needed for a multitude of positions. Not an outstanding keeper but good enough in my opinion. Him and Delap for instance is good business around 50 million GBP.
Liked what I saw of Vitek before. Suspect he would do well if we brought him back.
If we're gonna get a low cost goalkeeper in, and I think that's what we should do, we can still do so much better than Ramsdale.
Ramsdale is massively error prone. You'd be signing a player who has the exact same issue as the guy we need to replace. It makes no sense to me.
I wanted Costa instead of Onana and would like to sign him but there's no way we are signing a new GK this summer when we need so many other players.
And to the people suggesting Ramsdale... Someone who has been relegated 3 times is not the level we should be aiming for.
And to the people suggesting Ramsdale... Someone who has been relegated 3 times is not the level we should be aiming for.
Anybody who watches Ligue 1 have an opinion on this Yahia Fofana guy from Angers SCO? Has great PSxG stat/save percentage+ very strong aerial stats (94th percentile), still young at just over 24 and on a pittance, could be an interesting prospect to look into. Doesn’t seem great with his feet but Amorim isn’t obsessive with it like EtH anyway, and playing for one of the weakest French club probably doesn’t allow him a lot of leeway to showcase this even if he’s better than he seems.
Wouldn’t be opposed to Milinkovic-Savic either, but he’d probably be more expensive.
Wouldn’t be opposed to Milinkovic-Savic either, but he’d probably be more expensive.