Lingard to join West Ham on loan

elmo said:
Di maria didn't perform because he never wanted to be here. He did well playing for real madrid and they probably have more media spotlight on them than us.
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They have positive spotlight. They're winning.

Anyway, like I said I think Maguire will be the next. Perfectly good defender, probs first choice for his country, won the PL already with Leicester, hes a proven talent. Yet the media, Youtube fan channels, so called expert pundits all slate him as the reason utd are not winning... the board listen to the fans displeasure and then he's gone.

Its all just my opinion, I might be wrong but thats what I seen over the years. Its blimey crazy!
 
Blueman said:
I shit you not.... Whats the common theme between Lingard, Lukaku, Di'Maria. They were all brilliant before they joined United, at Utd they came under the media scrutiny and spotlight where every single mistake is amplified... They leave United and they were actually good after-all. Too much pressure.

United get a rough ride in the media right now because they're not winning. The media highlight this player or that player being the problem - for the clicks and views, the fans believe it

It's true I tell ya, been watching United for years, it was the same for SAF at the beginning, but he was a phenomenom, he stuck to his guns and believed (For example) that "kids" can win the PL, or that Ronaldo was going to be as good as he was, despite what the media say.

It's happening with Maguire right now, I expect him to be the next expensive fall guy but he's probably the most important rock at the back who fights for the club, thats a rare commodity nowadays, but one or two mistakes under the spotlight and he's "shit". I dont believe it tbh
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This doesn’t make any sense for Lingard though. He joined united at 7. What, he was brilliant when he was 6 years old? The highest points of his career are still all between 2016-2019 when he had spells of being a regular for us and England.

Maguire didn’t win the PL with Leicester either.
 
MyOnlySolskjaer said:
I'm okay with this if we sell Dan James. We don't need 2 of these players in the squad.
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Would rather just keep Dan James to fill the run around but don't do much role in the squad and get £15-20m for Lingard while teams think he might be worth it personally.
 
I hope we keep Lingard if we bring in a better manager that can use a player like him.

Under Ole though it might be pretty pointless to keep him, but it may work once we get a new manager in the future.

If he goes it is not a big problem I say if Pogba stays and we do not lose too many players without getting new ones.
 
He is a player with the right mentality, which is a rare commodity. Hopefully, he would come back and thrive as he has been at West Ham.
 
Paul_Scholes18 said:
I hope we keep Lingard if we bring in a better manager that can use a player like him.

Under Ole though it might be pretty pointless to keep him, but it may work once we get a new manager in the future.

If he goes it is not a big problem I say if Pogba stays and we do not lose too many players without getting new ones.
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Is this a parody post? Use a player like him? You make it sound like Lingard is some difficult nut to crack, a unique talent that requires special management :lol: he's performing great under David Moyes! He needed a change of scenery and a fresh start. Honestly the lengths people go to mug off Ole, bloody hell.
 
copen1945 said:
He is a player with the right mentality, which is a rare commodity. Hopefully, he would come back and thrive as he has been at West Ham.
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His mentality is the reason that he failed at United.
I dont want to see him go back, Him and his social media can stay at West Ham and I hope he does well.

If United want to be taken seriously again then we need players better than Lingard.
 
Judas said:
Is this a parody post? Use a player like him? You make it sound like Lingard is some difficult nut to crack, a unique talent that requires special management :lol: he's performing great under David Moyes! He needed a change of scenery and a fresh start. Honestly the lengths people go to mug off Ole, bloody hell.
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The traffic lights outside OT failed. If we had a better manager, that would never have happened.
 
I like Lingard and what he achieved here whilst he was our player. I feel the hatred that he received from our fans is unfair - but then again I think our rivals fans support of their club is better than what our fans ever does.

However, I still cant believe that Van De Beek is not the golden version of Lingard. As a CAM I dont see what Lingard has that Van de Beek doesnt except possibly some confidence in making a pass. The goal scoring, the hard work the good runs is how I see VDB as a player anyway - yet the benefit of VDB is that within the squad he can also play deeper in midfield better than Lingard ever could as he only plays CAM.

VDB is a more versatile and young version of Lingard and in theory he should be better
 
TheReligion said:
Yeah he's already our player though.
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Yeah a player who most on here were happy to see the back of after he stunk out the place for a year if not more who after a short spell of good form is reportedly in talks to get back in the side with a new deal.
 
No to him no matter how he performs in the upcoming weeks. Hope he does well though. Will increase is fee. I fear his form will drop massively though. He had this one or two good months spells for us as well. Followed by God awful performances
 
Pow said:
Yeah a player who most on here were happy to see the back of after he stunk out the place for a year if not more who after a short spell of good form is reportedly in talks to get back in the side with a new deal.
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Yeah. So anyway. As I said. Good replacement for Havertz? More potential too.
 
Only on kneejerk cafe would you find posts suggesting we get rid of Martial in place of Lingard.
 
I think Ole is starting to realize we need more then 14 players to play in all these competitions each season. We need to keep him. We can't play the exact same player's every single week in every competition. As he has this season.
 
Pow said:
Wasn't he banned from old Trafford after he stopped you getting Ronaldinho. I think that's a no go too mate.
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Yes but he stole Cech and Robben when he went to Chelsea. I'm sure he can get the Lingard deal over the line for the right amount of Roman Roubles.
 
AaronRedDevil said:
I think Ole is starting to realize we need more then 14 players to play in all these competitions each season. We need to keep him. We can't play the exact same player's every single week in every competition. As he has this season.
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Do you really think Ole has just realised this?

A guy whose played and now managed at the top level. Also a guy who has repeatedly spoken of the need for rotation. A guy who has rotated most of his players. A guy who just last week against Leicester was getting criticised for resting players.

Maguire, Bruno and Rashford have played a lot(nothing unusual in a team playing its best players most of the time). The remaining squad players have all been rotated nicely.

Lingard would have played more if he'd been performing. His exclusion wasn't down to Ole not wanting to rotate. Same goes for James, Williams and Bailly.
 
Bebestation said:
I like Lingard and what he achieved here whilst he was our player. I feel the hatred that he received from our fans is unfair - but then again I think our rivals fans support of their club is better than what our fans ever does.

However, I still cant believe that Van De Beek is not the golden version of Lingard. As a CAM I dont see what Lingard has that Van de Beek doesnt except possibly some confidence in making a pass. The goal scoring, the hard work the good runs is how I see VDB as a player anyway - yet the benefit of VDB is that within the squad he can also play deeper in midfield better than Lingard ever could as he only plays CAM.

VDB is a more versatile and young version of Lingard and in theory he should be better
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Doesn't Lingard possess quite a few qualities Van de Beek has seldom or never shown, at least in a Manchester United shirt and in English football?

Namely, a degree of pace.

The ability to play direct football suited to our strengths, i.e. carrying the ball on the counter or playing a simple pass quickly.

Energy and athleticism to close people down quickly.

None of this is argument for Lingard staying necessarily but in any comparison it is VDB that comes off far worse with his limp displays that are very difficult to find any redeeming features within.
 
copen1945 said:
He is a player with the right mentality, which is a rare commodity. Hopefully, he would come back and thrive as he has been at West Ham.
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Where have you been the last few years ???

Bringing out his own label , changing agents , putting everything he does up on social media that’s off the pitch while on it he runs around a lot and has no goal or Assist in about 2 years for us
 
Dwazza Gunnar Solskjær said:
Just in case you've all forgotten.



That said, good for Jesse, he's very clearly better being a big fish in a small pond than a small fish in a big pond. He will not replicate his West Ham form back at United, the pressure is too great here.
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This is why his exit leaves a bitter taste for me. At this point in time, Ole was coming under increasing pressure for being a nice guy. He would follow this up with that interview where he talks about giving players chances and then binning them.

I accept that Lingard wasn't good enough for a while. I accept that moving on was the best move.

But Ole threw him under the bus to build his own reputation.
 
The Original said:
This is why his exit leaves a bitter taste for me. At this point in time, Ole was coming under increasing pressure for being a nice guy. He would follow this up with that interview where he talks about giving players chances and then binning them.

I accept that Lingard wasn't good enough for a while. I accept that moving on was the best move.

But Ole threw him under the bus to build his own reputation.
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We did also sign Bruno like a day after this match.

There’s binning a player and then there’s replacing a player in the team who’s in dreadful form with a world-class alternative.
 
Paul_Scholes18 said:
I hope we keep Lingard if we bring in a better manager that can use a player like him.

Under Ole though it might be pretty pointless to keep him, but it may work once we get a new manager in the future.

If he goes it is not a big problem I say if Pogba stays and we do not lose too many players without getting new ones.
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doesn’t matter which manager he plays for he is rightly done here
 
The Original said:
This is why his exit leaves a bitter taste for me. At this point in time, Ole was coming under increasing pressure for being a nice guy. He would follow this up with that interview where he talks about giving players chances and then binning them.

I accept that Lingard wasn't good enough for a while. I accept that moving on was the best move.

But Ole threw him under the bus to build his own reputation.
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What absolute shit are your dribbling.

Jesse was fecking horrible and had gone months without goals and assists. He was misplacing passes and should have been frozen out sooner.
 
Fernandes' signing was the end of Lingard starting for us regularly and nothing has changed. He's doing well for West Ham because they dont have a Fernandes and he can play every week. After the past 3 years of being average, he would finally be sought after as a transfer on current form. But I'd be surprised if it was as a starter to any team above West Ham (5th) in the table. And if he goes as a squad player, expect him to be the same as he has been the last 3 seasons for United where he was a hinderance and not a help
 
Sell. Sell. Sell.

A player surplus to requirements, who will now command a far higher fee that can be spent on an area that is deemed more important. He isn't a starter, so why bother wasting this opportunity when the money could go towards a Sancho level player who improves the first 11?

It'd be absolutely typical of us not to sell a player at the right time though.
 
mariachi-19 said:
What absolute shit are your dribbling.

Jesse was fecking horrible and had gone months without goals and assists. He was misplacing passes and should have been frozen out sooner.
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Can you read?

I accept that Lingard wasn't good enough for a while. I accept that moving on was the best move.
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I really do not appreciate having to explain something so obvious simple because you refuse to read.

I have not said he should not have been let go. I have said, essentially, that Ole cut him off in an unnecessarily public manner in order to build his own reputation.

Can you understand that?
 
Paul_Scholes18 said:
I hope we keep Lingard if we bring in a better manager that can use a player like him.

Under Ole though it might be pretty pointless to keep him, but it may work once we get a new manager in the future.

If he goes it is not a big problem I say if Pogba stays and we do not lose too many players without getting new ones.
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The Original said:
This is why his exit leaves a bitter taste for me. At this point in time, Ole was coming under increasing pressure for being a nice guy. He would follow this up with that interview where he talks about giving players chances and then binning them.

I accept that Lingard wasn't good enough for a while. I accept that moving on was the best move.

But Ole threw him under the bus to build his own reputation.
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Agree with both of these, though people will obviously foam at the mouth at the very thought of questioning Ole's man management and tactical acumen.
 
Ekeke said:
Fernandes' signing was the end of Lingard starting for us regularly and nothing has changed. He's doing well for West Ham because they dont have a Fernandes and he can play every week. After the past 3 years of being average, he would finally be sought after as a transfer on current form. But I'd be surprised if it was as a starter to any team above West Ham (5th) in the table. And if he goes as a squad player, expect him to be the same as he has been the last 3 seasons for United where he was a hinderance and not a help
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Yeah he is the kind of player you can afford to keep if you haven't got significant issues with the first XI and a board who will plead poverty given the opportunity, therefore we simply have to sell him this summer to raise some funds to go towards addressing our main holes in the team.
 
I'm really happy he's doing well but we should be looking to improve in that area. Would he get into the Bayern or PSG or Real teams.

Forget where we are now, that's the level we need to get back to
 
This is out of United's hands. If I was Jesse, I wouldn't want to come back. This loan move means he is the main man at West Ham and also may secure him a seat on the plane to the Euros. He would be insane to come back to United.

Besides, Jesse is getting closer to his 30s and this is the time we should cash in.
 
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