I have a crazy theory about this for both Argentina and Barcelona, if you noticed in the messi era both sides consistently appointed some very questionable managers, ie Maradona, Setien, Valverde.
imagine what his career could’ve been with competent managers.
Who cares. He won it at the end of the day and no one can ever throw that excuse in this face again.
But it could have been so much more with good, nevermind elite, managers. I mean maradona, Setien, Tata (Mexico’s in this WC) as managers…tragic
I don't think he cares. If any, winning it this late in his career after so many setbacks, while being the best player of the tournament at 35, makes it even more beautiful. It's not about how many you win, but you how win it.
It's a shame he played under managers like Maradona when he was at his peak but it's a part of life. For the stat obsessed lot his stats could have been even better, however I think these last 2 years of incredible national team success and the dream closing chapter wouldn't have been what it is, if he had things his way throughout.
Did Maradona ever explain why Cambiasso and Zanetti (having just captained Inter to a historical treble) were left out of the 2010 squad ?
Indeed. It was Mascherano in midfield, with Messi, Tevez, Maxi, Higuain and Aguero in attack.
They might have won the WC if they had a competent manager. 2010-2011 Messi is his physical peak and they wasted him that WC with awful squad selections and Maradona not being a good manager.
Apparently so cos all the nonsense you've been spewing about not doing it outside of Barcelona was dispelled within 6 glorious weeksYes intelligence comes from footballthat says a lot about your intelligence!
He’s got the the potential to be a very good coach(Enrique is currently far better )but it’s worth saying before the World Cup, he was a nobody who got the job because he was cheap.
Didn't Messi push for Tata to take the reins at Barca?
Don’t recall him explaining nothing, don’t recall journalists asking either, he was a shite manager. Inconceivable we lost a great opportunity to have balanced team.
Nah I still don’t rate Enrique. Did a crappy job at Roma before Barca, fell out with the Barca team but MSN pulled him over the line. In this world cup he stick Rodri in defence, played the ancient one in busquets (should stick Rodri there), had ferran torres in attack of all people.
No idea but if its true then Tata is on messi. Strange push though, are they even related?
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Honestly believe this a mistake. Retire on a high not just when you no longer can do a job.
Why ? He just platiniumed football, we should be happy to still see him in Europe. Let's enjoy his last few outings. We won't see another one like him in a long long time. He can clearly still do a great job
Yeah I agree. Imagine PSG have made a serious offer financially and the World Cup has convinced him that he can still do it another while. A perfect retirement is easier said than done, most greats actually keep on going longer than needs be than the other way around. Once they start to think about a life off the pitch the nerves set in and they keep on going.
I could understand your point if he wasn't in the middle of a great 22-23 season from an individual standpoint. Unless you think that he is going to fall of the deepest cliff ever, Messi has easily 18 more months at the top.
I'm quite happy about it tbh. The world cup proved he's still one of the best players in the world and would rather see him in Europe in the UCL than playing in the MLS.
He was bang average last season and clearly looks his Age. His lower ceing is still better than most but his next season could also be as bad or average as his first at PSG. Ronnie is a perfect example that age catches even the most dedicated footbsllers.
You make a good point but at the same time he is still playing so well. Retiring would make sense if he was on his last legs
He was used in the weirdest way last season and PSG's attack was completely disjointed. Anyone that actually watched PSG were saying it but somehow people still refuse to listen, there is a reason why almost any Ligue 1 or PSG followers were shitting on Pochettino.
He is playing so well but decline can be quite sudden at that age and there is likely to be a comedown from the World Cup after achieving his life’s goal. He could have finished the season as PSG, but to get up for another season after that might be a tough ask.
Even if he was bang average, why would he care? If he enjoys football then he should play as long as he wants at which ever level he wants. Makes zero difference to his legacy to anyone with common sense.
I thought he deserves a send off at Barca, but I hope PSG get Barca in the CL in that case.
Even if he declined ala Ronaldo, the man completed football. He has nothing else to achieve/prove. He can do whatever he wants. I see it as a privilege to still have him in the ligue 1
I think he and Mbappe will have one of the best performances that Ligue 1 have seen after this WC honestly, winning the CL and all there is to win in French football this season.
Neymar is the big question, he has been superb so far. The WC is a disappointment of course. They will need all 3 at their best to win the CL
I think it's already settled tbh, whatever success Mbappe manages with PSG Messi would also be a part of it. I reckon he's staying because he quite likes Paris and probably is making as much as he'd make at Inter Miami. Might as well stay in Europe if you're going to get a similar amount of money, can always go to the US in 2024.
Neymar will elevate himself I think if the others are motivated, he did very well the year after the 2014 WC too when we say MSN at their peak.
Definitely could be part of it, I'm surprised he's not going back to Barca right now (although it's not official yet) but I see Messi in Europe until 2024 or 2025 he can play a deeper role since he's that good.
I have more questions about the rest of the team. Mbappé, Messi, Neymar and Hakimi are all competitors and they are also consistent as long as injuries allow it.
Messi his the woodwork 11-12 times last year, he was also massively unlucky
New club unexpectedly, covid , bad luck , bad setup it was the perfect storm really.
Was that a kind of Freudian slip?
Autocorrect on my phone, in short. ITS THE PHONE
Thrilled we get to watch him in Europe for another year.
