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Lionel Messi \ Signs for PSG
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I mean the majority 99% of people are UNABLE to do this even if they considered it. People in the position to even consider it are multi millionaires or billionaires with multiple avenues of income. Shutting off 1 tap when there are 7 others isn't going to change a damn thing.
If you truly love your company/club as you have created the illusion of for years, then shutting off 1 tap isn't that big of a deal. Or atleast restricting that taps flow.
Instead of filling up his Rolls Royce twice a week, he might have to fill up his Maybach once a week. Point being, it matters f all.
Anyways my thoughts on this whole thing is, he's a greedy twat and shown himself to be. So much so that he has priced himself out of his 'preference' of staying at Barca, only to have 1 option in all of football which is a Mercenary club in a zero pressure comfortable environment. A real champion wants the challenge and there are examples of this throughout all of sport. Ridiculously talented, wuss mindset
when an iconic club pay absurd money on so many players (dembele, coutinho, griezman, de jong, pjanic) both in fees and wages, it s normal they bankrupt and can’t keep their players
Makes it more competitive than the Bundesliga. Which makes a mockery of your previous claim.
PSG are a joke club, move along.
No they're not. The rumor is 35M net which means the employer pays roughly 48M.
Wenger called it first
Poch being a bottler does not make it a more competitive league.
Maguire to rifle it in to top corner!!
Not sure who does your taxes, but €35m net = a hell of a lot more than €48m gross.
This will probably help: https://salaryaftertax.com/fr/salary-calculator
Net i France doesn't means "after tax", it means after social costs paid by the employer and then by the employee (gross).
Money paid by the employer > gross salary > net salary > net after tax.
It is a massive shame the greatest ever footballer of all time decides to spend his last stage of his career in Ligue 1 when you've seen how players like Zlatan, Cavani could still come to the Premier League and perform at a very high level, I always wonder how a prime Zlatan and Cavani would have done in EPL, they would have no doubt become legends. I'd have honestly don't mind him going to City just so I can see him live and how he could perform at a much more competitive league. Why doesn't City try to sign him? They have unlimited money anyway. I'd have loved our club to sign him even though he has no connection to Man Utd. The Man Utd brand itself is already commercially the biggest in the English speaking world, if Messi comes over, the club would soon attract lots of South American talent who want to follow in the footstep of their idol.
This is incorrect. Messi is not paying income tax on his €35m. If he were, his take home would barely break €400k per week. It's going to be closer to double that (and indeed, it is widely being reported at €770k per week, which tallies with my numbers rather than yours).
plus the signing on fee?
It's interesting that Drucker says " SG could finish the window with Donnarumma, Ramos, Wijnaldum and Messi all joining on free transfers (if admittedly massive wages). Wow"
The signing on fees alone will surely be huge.
It's Monopoly with one player owning a private bank.
That's not at all what is reported in France, and I rely far more on french credible sources than what is "widely reported". I've read pretty much anywhere than Messi would earn a bit more than Neymar who earns 30M net before taxes (which is consistent with the league financial reports). It would put Messi at 35M net before tax.
Nah it's only his salary, i haven't read anything credible about the signing fees at this point.
Agreed.
Winning knock tournaments is about a combination of luck, balance, tactics and brilliance or just luck (can supersede everything else) . PSG have the brilliance, but balance, tactics and luck also need to be there for success.
If brilliance was the only requirement, Barcelona would have won far more UCL titles under Guardiola, Enrique and Velverde. Enrique and Velverde were tactically inept.
That is why we killed Villareal in the Europa league last season
I highly doubt Messi would get out of bed for €35m net. He was getting paid €150m last year at Barca ? I am sure there will be plenty of back door payments here - sign on fee, fee for his agent (his dad) etc.
Where are PSG going to play him? Mpappe center and Messi on the right?
Pas encore? With impots at the source, there is only one net?
Maybe Messi as false nine, if he's still fit enough for it.
I'd argue that he isn't.
Ramos and Messi in training will be fun to imagine.
L'impôt à la source didn't change the fact that there's still a distinction between net and net after tax. It's just the way accounting works. It's actually mandatory for an employer to clearly state your net before tax salary on your payslip.
Another thread made me think : we've pretty much all heard about this study that said Messi generated 200M+/y in revenues for Barcelona.
Even if it's probably wildly exagerated, is it possible that Messi, on a 35M/y net deal, pretty much pays for himself? I'm tempted to think that he probably does (or close), it opens A LOT of new marketing potential deals/re-negociations.
Even if it's probably wildly exagerated, is it possible that Messi, on a 35M/y net deal, pretty much pays for himself? I'm tempted to think that he probably does (or close), it opens A LOT of new marketing potential deals/re-negociations.
why not?
i’ve read somewhere that Messi brings/brought 30% of Barcelona’s total revenue up until 2017 when that study was done.
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Lionel Messi
- has generated an estimated revenue of €619,265,000 since signing his latest deal with Barca in 2017, according to a recent financial study.
Basically he costs a lot of money but he will bring in massive commercial deals and exposure to the club in combination with results on the pitch.
Yeah, ive read this study as well. It does seem exagerated to me but even if only generates a fraction of that, we basically got him for free.
The Bundesliga is the better league between the two competitions at least as a neutral I'd rather he played in Germany or Italy (ideally Premier League is the best competition at the moment). Both teams are very dominant but if PSG fails to win their league is more a bottle job on their part and not something that implies Ligue 1 is a stronger competition with better football. Bayern Munich is just the better club overall.
I agree with you (and i watch a lot of french/italian/german games). It's partially a bottle job, partially a fitness issue (we started ligue 1 only 1 week after the CL final), partially a lineup issue (our backups suck) etc. Some years are better than others in ligue 1 though, depending on how good the young players clubs recruited are. I'm pretty optimistic for this season but who knows.
who’s that?
Probably go straight through the back of him in the first training session
Thanks for your reply I do like Bundesliga for the playstyle, France seems to produce a lot of players but my impression is they ship them on quite early for the rest of the clubs to be able to build strong sides. Then watching the team PSG I don't think anyone can contest them even if PSG doesn't reach its full potential.
Managing so many big players presents a challenge in itself but out of all their signing I think Ramos would be the most impactful one. At least he was a leader for us with a fierce competitive and winning mentality, so maybe he can be what the team needs to command all the big egos on the pitch and have a deep run into the CL while winning the league convincingly.
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Apparently Messi and Icardi don't get along. Will be interesting if that has any effect on dressing room harmony.
Surprised Icardi is still there. He’s shite.
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