No. Everton went through the CL qualifying rounds without any change. They just weren't able to qualify.
Liverpool are the luckiest club in the league and it will never end
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
I don’t see the difference in genuineness of an offside (where there is the issue of angles involved etc) and a two footed lunge or a clear hand ball. The main difference seems to be in the reaction of the club and their puppets in the media.
There were no cries for a replay when the game was played either. Shortly after the game Mike Dean openly admitted he royally fecked up as the VAR and it was just shrugged off as 'shit happens'.
It was only later when he admitted to actually fixing the outcome to protect his mate Anthony Taylor but even before that the mistake was already just as bad as the one last weekend.
The rules were however changed for them - back then, England was meant to have 4 teams, and there was an initial suggestion that Liverpool might take Everton's spot, but in the end both could. The rules were then amended for the future:
https://www.independent.ie/sport/so...le-under-uefa-rules-loophole/a2035030871.html
Miguel Delaney
An absolute embarrasment. So many journalists have let their masks slip this past week.
Miguel Delaney
An absolute embarrasment. So many journalists have let their masks slip this past week.
To be honest, what is wrong here is how that hasn't generated moreso outcry. It's genuinely scandalous.
pair that with the matey dialogue in the released audio and it's clear that refereeing culture is far too chummy and insular. It's the same matey atmosphere that fuelled England's sloppiness and Dean's deliberate unprofessionalism. They need a far more professional dialogue and distance with each other.
What a pointless article - makes a headline, first paragraph:https://www.independent.ie/sport/so...le-under-uefa-rules-loophole/a2035030871.html
Miguel Delaney
An absolute embarrasment. So many journalists have let their masks slip this past week.
So actually not at all a loophole, and actually not at all possible.
Its the unprecedented argument I find funny. Inexplicable human error with VAR is not unprecedented at all. Its a weekly occurence in the PL. Deliberate human error (which is much worse) is also entirely precedented as it has been openly admitted to.
Its entirely precedented even if you narrow it down to "wrongly disallowed offside because the VAR officials decided not to use VAR properly in a game involving Liverpool FC" Because this exact thing cost Wolves a goal against Liverpool last season. The only differences were a) Wolves weren't playing with 9 men, b) They didn't accidentally score for the other team, c) the goal was in the last minute and WOULD have won Wolves the game and d) It cost Wolves a place in the FA cup, not 1 point away to Spurs IF the entire rest of the game had panned out exactly the same for some completely illogical reason.
Lucky once again, routine save and the keeper makes a meal of it to put them 1-0 in front tonight.
They could have waited a week before giving Liverpool everything but they just had to start straight away. To be fair if the referee hadn't given that he would have had another letter from Liverpool and dropped from refereeing.
It was a foul but I thought the yellow was harsh. He barely touched him.
Now Liverpool have an hour to have their way against 10 men.
That's not one of the more extreme examples of Liverpool favouritism but you can certainly find plenty of examples where 2 yellows weren't given for similar fouls.
It's probably a second yellow but Liverpool's histrionics have ensured that every shred of doubt is removed when it comes to decisions now. Refs will side with them because if they don't, they'll be sent down to the Championship and thus could lose their "marquee status" as a big time ref and may miss out on those lucrative Middle East foxers. It all snowballs.
If Young goes then Konate needs to
I haven't watched the game since the red but it seems they got a penalty and allowed Konate to stay. Does that make it even for Liverpool and we get to have no favouritism for Liverpool from now on or are we in for a long season?
At least we won't hear about it on the 10pm news... well done Craig Pawson, Liverpool's MOTM today.
This thread is embarrassing.
We’re in for a long season.
Other than not giving Konate his second yellow I think the refs did a decent job here. The penalty was about as clear as a handball can be.
Konate should have been off. But you don't expect anything than that from Premier League referees. It's at Anfield. I'll admit that.
Great to win. Big win. The early kick off and a Derby was always going to be tough. Top of the table for an hour or two I'll take it.
Didn't watch the game but I see they played over an hour against a 10 man Everton. Needed a penalty in the 75th minute to take the lead and sealed the win with another goal in the 8th minute of added time.
Some of you guys are legitimately insane.
The decisions against us this season have pushed me over the edge for sure.
I agree with you.
What a way to spend your weekend, analysing every little refereeing performance for another team.
On top of that, actually spending two hours of your Saturday watching a Liverpool match.
Give your heads a wobble.
Yeah think this is fair.
An opposition player sent off with one hour to go, and a penalty on the 75 minute just in case. Not bad for the first match after Spurs. But this has only just begun.
2 penalties on the bounce. They were given one against Brighton, following the Spurs game.
That's right, the international break messed up my memory of the schedule.
Konate should possibly have walked but the ref/var called everything else correctly.
Yes, we will not see something ridiculous every matchday, probably, but they will get every conceivable "correct" call "correctly" made in their favour, and not a single dubious one against them.
Nah, the only embarrassment in all this is Liverpool institutionally throwing their toys out of the pram due to an incorrect VAR decision. I know they thought that was impossible, that's exactly why they felt so aggravated, but still, such a cringeworthy tantrum.
Have encouraged plenty on here for a number of seasons to not bother watching lucky Liverpool in action, what's to gain by watching their games, to become annoyed further by how lucky they are?
Somehow there’s a certain pleasure in it.
It was a penalty no doubt, the problem is inconsistancy. How often have we seen the exact same turned down this season already?
It really should have been a 2nd yellow for Konate.
It really should have been a 2nd yellow for Konate.
Care to elaborate?
A penalty a match day, keeps the Klopp away.
I probably shouldn’t.
Konate should have got a red