Spoony
The People's President
You're probably right, have you read Beowulf?That maybe how he saw it later, but it wasn't how it was envisaged. It's completely based on Germanic myth.
You're probably right, have you read Beowulf?That maybe how he saw it later, but it wasn't how it was envisaged. It's completely based on Germanic myth.
Is Beowulf one dimensional? If you have ever actually read it...The fact that it's one dimensional is the my main gripe.
Yes, multiple times, in both old and modern English.have you read Beowulf?
Do the Hobbits shag Elvs?Yes, multiple times, in both old and modern English.
Hobbits don't exist in Beowulf??????Do the Hobbits shag Elvs?
Well, there were the two children of Sam Gamgee at the end of The Return of the King no? He'd obviously been poking something into the barmaid!Shame though, there wasn't some hobbit sex in the movies, or at the very least some allusion to it.
What film is not silly nonsense?No that's just silly, because LOTR is silly nonsense doesn't mean most films/books are... that's reductio ad absurdum or something. And suspending disbelief, well most of us do that all the time... Or else I'd have been tutting away at Batman thinking, folk don't really do that.
The films don't even follow the books.What film is not silly nonsense?
I get what you are saying. The whole thing with Gandalf wasn't explained very well tbh. He is an istari (spelt something like that) who are sort of Demi gods. He can't use his powers on mortal folk which is why you only see him us it against the likes of the Balrog, Saruman and the witch king, since they do not strictly belong to middle earth.As I said, it's nothing to do with being inherently silly, as you say, a lot of films are. But the conclusions and premises don't stack up for me. Like, for example, how Gandalf just brings out some random magic whenever they're losing...Why couldn't he have done that before? Why couldn't they have used the eagles more? Why didn't they go straight to the army of the dead? blah blah blah..My unappreciation of it has very little to do with the silly nonsense of it all being about weird magic rings that don't really seem to do anything.
However, I completely agree that it's a hugely significant cultural work. Again, much like Star Wars. It's just not really my cup of tea is all.
It would take about 24 hours of film to truly follow the books. I certainly wouldn't be arsed watching that.The films don't even follow the books.
Gandalf isn't even his real name.The whole thing with Gandalf wasn't explained very well tbh. He is an istari
Raging Bull. It's probably the only one. Not that I know what silly nonsense actually means, it's rather vague.What film is not silly nonsense?
Yeah, she was a looker to be fair. And for all those who suspected him to be gay...how wrong you were.Well, there were the two children of Sam Gamgee at the end of The Return of the King no? He'd obviously been poking something into the barmaid!
Have you only ever watched blockbuster films?What film is not silly nonsense?
Well since Raging Bull is based on somebody's memoirs that's not really playing fair is it? It's not a fictional tale.Raging Bull. It's probably the only one. Not that I know what silly nonsense actually means.
I think you are. And so am I, I guess. I bid you farewell.Well since Raging Bull is based on somebody's memoirs that's not really playing fair is it? It's not a fictional tale.
Take the godfather, it's the story of a guy who within a matter of weeks changes from being completely opposed to his families business to running it with no qualms within, what, less than 6 months? It's silly nonsense, doesn't make it any less of a film.
I don't even know what this point means now, think I'm just argueing for the sake of it
He's grey, then he dies and becomes white, then he starts fighting people with his big stick for a while before going "pschh, feck this, I'm just going to summon some magic light from the sky, or an eagle, or a moth or something and kill a half the army in one stroke." ...It's just madly inconsistent, and seems entirely predicated on how to get the writer out of the corners he's written himself into.
You can make your plot about anything silly and i'll go along with it, but the second you start going "We're at our lowest ebb, our heroes are losing, how do we solve this?...feck it, lets just say magic" you've lost me.
He was a Maia with limited powers in the grey form. He dies, and then is sent back...He's grey, then he dies and becomes white
A bit like an avatar?He was a Maia with limited powers in the grey form. He dies, and then is sent back...
Not really no! A bit more like Jesus!A bit like an avatar?
By avatar I meant a human manifestation of a higher power. You mean the resurrection though don't you? Jesus didn't really come back bigger and deffer, WD.Not really no! A bit more like Jesus!
Deus Ex MachinaHe's grey, then he dies and becomes white, then he starts fighting people with his big stick for a while before going "pschh, feck this, I'm just going to summon some magic light from the sky, or an eagle, or a moth or something and kill a half the army in one stroke." ...It's just madly inconsistent, and seems entirely predicated on how to get the writer out of the corners he's written himself into.
You can make your plot about anything silly and i'll go along with it, but the second you start going "We're at our lowest ebb, our heroes are losing, how do we solve this?...feck it, lets just say magic" you've lost me.
Not physically he didn't, I'm talking more in the metaphorical sense. The actual act of defying death is the underlying belief of Christianity. Morph that into physical form and you have Mithdrandir or however you spell his name.By avatar I meant a human manifestation of a higher power. You mean the resurrection though don't you? Jesus didn't really come back bigger and deffer, WD.
In the hobbit it's explained why they won't just carry them away, gandalf asks them and they say...I get what you are saying. The whole thing with Gandalf wasn't explained very well tbh. He is an istari (spelt something like that) who are sort of Demi gods. He can't use his powers on mortal folk which is why you only see him us it against the likes of the Balrog, Saruman and the witch king, since they do not strictly belong to middle earth.
The eagles thing is a common gripe though. Why not just tell Frodo to jump on the back and be at Mordor within a day
Same would apply for frodo, although I'm not sure if they ever mention it in the book.The Lord of the Eagles would not take them anywhere near where men lived. "They would shoot at us with their great bows of yew," he said, "for they would think we were after their sheep. And at other times they would be right. No! we are glad to cheat the goblins of their sport, and glad to repay our thanks to you, but we will not risk ourselves for dwarves in the southward plains."
Yes but the movies' impact on the entertainment industry. But anyway, I'm typing for the sake of it.Spoony, the books laid the groundwork for dozens and dozens of epic fantasy stories to follow. Perhaps you don't like any of those, either, but you can't deny that they had a huge impact upon that genre of literature.
Got this on Monday. €65 Which I think is a good price. Box set is sexual and although I have only watched half of the Fellowship so far it looks incredible
Very very happy with my purchase
I guess the success of the movies at the same time as the Spider-Man and X-Men movies set Hollywood on the path of genre adaptations=cash and screw original ideas mentality.Yes but the movies' impact on the entertainment industry. But anyway, I'm typing for the sake of it.
Each of the films is longer, close to 4hrs each, in the extended blu ray box set. Costs about £35 now.What did you get for that amount of money? I got the theatrical blu-ray set for £9.
Still a lot cheaper than 65 euros.Each of the films is longer, close to 4hrs each, in the extended blu ray box set. Costs about £35 now.
Heard of mana?He's grey, then he dies and becomes white, then he starts fighting people with his big stick for a while before going "pschh, feck this, I'm just going to summon some magic light from the sky, or an eagle, or a moth or something and kill a half the army in one stroke." ...It's just madly inconsistent, and seems entirely predicated on how to get the writer out of the corners he's written himself into.
You can make your plot about anything silly and i'll go along with it, but the second you start going "We're at our lowest ebb, our heroes are losing, how do we solve this?...feck it, lets just say magic" you've lost me.
I guess the success of the movies at the same time as the Spider-Man and X-Men movies set Hollywood on the path of genre adaptations=cash and screw original ideas mentality.
Or did you mean positive impact..?
I made that post 18 months ago just when the blu ray extended editions were released.What did you get for that amount of money? I got the theatrical blu-ray set for £9.