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Lucas Moura - (Caf decides he’s naff again) Spurs bound?
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I'm surprised there's so much negativity about his potential arrival on here. He offers genuine width, hot pace and can beat men easily. No-one in our squad at the moment has all those things in their locker.
Exactly.
What is the difference between this guy and the likes of Adama Traoré or a speed merchant as Aaron Lennon? I don't rate a player as Gerard Deulofeu, but even he has more to bring to the table than this guy.
I hope these rumours stays as rumours or disappear completely.
PS: I don't understand people claiming it's a low risk with the money being mentioned - it's still a lot of money for a nobody with speed and no footballing intelligence, even under different managers he hasn't blossomed. This is absolutely a no-go.
I hope these rumours stays as rumours or disappear completely.
PS: I don't understand people claiming it's a low risk with the money being mentioned - it's still a lot of money for a nobody with speed and no footballing intelligence, even under different managers he hasn't blossomed. This is absolutely a no-go.
Well Lucas actually has proven himself to have end product which neither Traore or Deulofeu could ever claim.
Excellent post. Agree with all of it. Thing is one would have to argue the manager has had more than enough time to rectify most of those issues and in some cases has created problems too.
Lucas is much better and trickier than those guys.
Have to admit I’m not keen on this signing. Would have rathered Perisic or even Zaha back.
You slate Martial and then want Zaha back?
jesus
Even the Brazillians are saying he ain't all that...
Which ones?
The difference is Traoré/Deulofeu/Lennon haven't the required level to get 34 caps with Brazil...
He isnt costing us 50m. He is costing us 20m. He is different to what we have. We are in desperate need of options and worst case scenario he becomes a squad player for us. He is still young. I am not saying he is going to have the Salah effect on us but we aint losing anything signing him.
I am not sure about that. He did inherit alot of dross tbh. At the time our only WC players was DDG.
So lets disect his performance
+ In terms of new players the only one who failed spectacularly was Mkhitaryan. Ibra - 1st stint, Bailly, Matic, Lukaku and Pogba are doing well. Jury is still out for Lindelof.
+ He kicked out of OT plenty of dead wood. I geniunely didn't thought he would be able to shift Rooney's and Bastian's fat arses from OT
+ our performance had improved since the dire Moyes/LVG times
- he's not using Pogba correctly. Pogba shines in a 3 men CM. He struggles in a 2 men CM.
- His arguments with anything that moves/breathes is getting tedious. We're Manchester United not the plastic clubs Mou love to manage
If you ask me I'd give him a B+
Why would we not want an upgrade and a player who still can improve? He’s quick, young, skilful and can actually go past people. We have a tiny squad compared to City for example. They have so many wide options and turning down the chance to sign this guy (not that I believe we are in for him) is just snobbery. Why not improve our squad? Reading all the posts regarding AG and Dybala etc and I’m amazed how many people would rather we crawled through the season with no reinforcements than build a squad to compete. If the rumours are true than we’d be signing a player that SAF rated highly and that played well last season AND is currently kept out the team by players worth more than our entire transfer budget. He’s currently lost his place to Mbappe who’s ‘the next big thing’ and valued at 160m.
It's a low risk gamble, on a player who has pace to burn and has end product, as well he hasn't played a champions league game this season. He also happens to play in a position that we need to fill
They arent. But Canal+ might be and they claim a deal is done. But hey! Its january
If the three names mentioned were brazilian, I'm sure they would've at least the same number of caps. And Brazil isn't what it once was. They haven't got those former glorious players and world-beaters anymore. So it isn't a good measuring stick.
I remember everyone on here telling me that Matic would be a terrible signing in the summer.
Just saying.
Just saying.
Would you be happy to see him leave your club or would you rather he stay?
Underwhelming because of the expectations everyone had of him when he joined. People would not give him any credit unless he is doing what Neymar is doing right now, because it is Ligue 1. But he hasn't had a bad season yet, hes been an integral part of the squad every year since joining PSG apart from this one. What I like about him most is that he always thrived in the big matches (whether against Marseille in the league, or Barcelona or Chelsea in CL). Most people on here are giving harsh criticism but lets be honest, how much of you have actually been watching Ligue 1?
Don't believe we are in for him, but it puzzles me that people are opposed to us signing him if the prices mentioned are to be believed.
Is he my dream-signing ? No. Is he better than what we have - if he finds the form he had last season, absolutely. And if it doesn't work out - we can probably get our money back. It's a gamble worth taking.
Is he my dream-signing ? No. Is he better than what we have - if he finds the form he had last season, absolutely. And if it doesn't work out - we can probably get our money back. It's a gamble worth taking.
Thanks.
To be completely honest, you have to take @kouroux and @Ecstatic opinions into account, they are both right and wrong. Lucas has a good potential that he often demonstrates, he has a very good attitude on the field like Cavani and he has good technical abilities but his decision making will let himself down way too often to consider Lucas like a very good player. If he is cheap than he is a pretty good option to explore but he shouldn't be considered like the missing piece in our starting eleven, he could be what some expected from Mkhitaryan, a solid member of a first XIII.
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Adama Traoré cannot kick a football ffs.
And why Mourinho wanted Perisic. Only for it to become painfully obvious why he wanted Perisic.
Moral of the story - trust Mourinho re transfers. He's got one of the better records in the market.
I'd sign him because he's an actual winger. Not an inside forward or playmaker from wide, he's actually capable of causing teams so much damage with his pace in this league
For 20 million, he's worth a risk and his directness will cause any team trouble and is a different angle for us to attack from
For 20 million, he's worth a risk and his directness will cause any team trouble and is a different angle for us to attack from
The ones from Brazil.
Im also finding the 'Brazilian Walcott" comments to demean him as hilarious. Our right flank is so bad, Id take an on form Walcott on it like yesterday. For all the stick he gets Walcott has always been a constant goal threat with a decent cross. And if I could land on a player like that with the dribbling wizardy to plant on our right flank id take it. I mean he'd always leave his man for dead and all you'd have to do is instruct him to make simply cut back basses into a danger area rather than to a man. You'd be shocked how devastating a supposedly simply minded player can be when used the right way.
there seems to be a lack of quality wingers at the minute - Arjen Robben for a year?
Zaha? Seriously? Jesus wept.
I just think it's sad for football to see very good players on the bench while they would be stars elsewhere.
I like the player but he can't compete with M'bappé. Di Maria and Lucas are 2 different players with pros and cons.
I think the latter needs to enjoy the full confidence of a coach and always play to reach the next level.
If the price is fair, I think it's an interesting gamble.
Zaha 
Some of you judge players by "have they played well this month?"
Some of you judge players by "have they played well this month?"
His cooperation with Zlatan during their PSG days was fairly productive. He's not that selfish as people say but he got his Nani moments from time to time.
You could be worried if Louie was still in charge but Jose would most likely calibrate him to Premier League just like he did with countless Chelsea and United players.
You could be worried if Louie was still in charge but Jose would most likely calibrate him to Premier League just like he did with countless Chelsea and United players.
So you don't know then.
I was never a big fan of missing pieces tbh. Many keep mentioning Cantona but while he was undoubtable a great player, we over-relied on him which in turn made us predictable.
What we need at this point is a solid team filled with decent players whose style suits us greatly and who would do well with us. Our flanks are screaming for pace and trickery. If Moura can provide that then I'm a happy bunny.
thanks for your assessment btw
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Lucas Moura is twice the player Zaha is, and possibly ever will be. That's not saying much though, seeing as Zaha seems to be getting very randomly hyped up well beyond his worth on here lately.
Whats fair about it?
I will always welcome a Brazilian player to the club. They do add abit of flamboyance which i like
Footballs moving away from wingers, in favour of wingbacks for width and wide forwards who chip in more goals, so are in the box more. It's why wingers like Valencia and Moses have been converted to wingbacks successfully, as they have the attributes.
Penny hasn't dropped for a few people about this, it's why I genuinely think we'll switch to a back three soon enough.
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