Luke Shaw next move?

[LilyWhiteSpur]

Yes. Only Lukaku and Matic have more appearances this season than Rashford. No one made more appearances than him last season. He's had a mid season dip whereby Martial was starting ahead of him then he suffered an injury which kept him out for a month other than that he's been an ever present this season

How many appearances were as a striker? As compared to a winger?

 

[RedDevil@84]

I'm not trying to kick up anything here but do you honestly think Rashford is getting the proper opertunity to develop?

Yes. For his age, the no of times he has been selected in the squad is pretty high. He gets to train with the best players at the club and travel with them. Plays all the competitions the club is involved in. Not many 20 yr olds could do that.
It is a different thing to speculate what could have been if he was under a different coach. But that is more of a speculation with lot of ifs and buts

 

[NinjaFletch]

How many appearances were as a striker? As compared to a winger?

Rashford's played on the wings throughout his entire youth career as well as upfront. Why would the fact he has been playing on the wings invalidate the fact he's played a shitload and is one of Mourinho's most trusted players?

 

[VeevaVee]

Before the injury cry cry. I get the impression he got used to being a lazy get and has no real drive. Not like it doesn't happen.

He might do alright with a change of scenery and a boot up his fat arse.

 

[charlenefan]

How many appearances were as a striker? As compared to a winger?

No idea but then I'm not sure why that matters, it remains to be seen whether a number 9 is his best position or whether it's a wide forward from the left

 

[LilyWhiteSpur]

Rashford's played on the wings throughout his entire youth career as well as upfront. Why would the fact he has been playing on the wings invalidate the fact he's played a shitload and is one of Mourinho's most trusted players?

I just see him more as a striker, I'm honestly just curious. Most of my friends are United fans and are extremely fecked off that Lukaku continually gets 90mins when the game is wrapped up and would rather see Rashford get on. Il stop the derailing.

 

[Rooney in Paris]

Anderson was also brilliant in that match all those years ago

Which is also a good example of a player not having the necessary dedication to making a career out of his talent.

 

[Zoo]

Everton would be a decent fit with Baines past his best.

 

[simplyared]

Are you a United fan?

United fan concerned for the club's future and the antics of the club's present manager!

 

[manunited1919]

Maybe we can send him to Lyon and swap him for Rafael.

 

[noodlehair]

I agree he seems to have application problems, I'd say LVG and Jose would have similar man management styles. He was such a talant at such a young age it would be criminal for someone not to try and drag it out of him.

I don't know. Attitude and commitment is a very big part of what makes someone a talent. If they're not quite perfect you can work with that, if as has been implied with Shaw, it's a constant battle to just get him to put the basic effort in, or even keep himself in shape, I don't really know what any manager could do.

Ferguson was great at getting the best out of players, but I couldn't see him doing much with Shaw. He tolerated similar from Tevez for a year or so (lazy trainer, over weight, etc.), but then ran into a similar situation that Jose is in now...and that's Tevez. I suspect the reason it was tolerated is because Tevez was still a good player despite the issues. Shaw is a decent left back, not a match winner. He can't really afford to take luxuries.

 

[Ødegaard]

I'm not trying to kick up anything here but do you honestly think Rashford is getting the proper opertunity to develop?

Absolutely.
1444 minutes of playing-time in the PL (10th most at our club), with 14 starts and 13 subs out of 30 games, that's only 3 games he hasn't been involved in the league so far this season.
That's about the same minutes as Dembele, Trippier & slightly less than Son.
He's also played 349 minutes in the Champions League (9th most at our club).
On top of those he has minutes in the league cup and FA cup.

He's not starving for game-time at all.

 

[FlawlessThaw]

How many appearances were as a striker? As compared to a winger?

Does it matter? He's not really an out and out striker for me anyway, he is better as an attacking wide player like Salah, Son and Mane. That's where he will probably end up playing for club and country.

 

[Fridge chutney]

I just see him more as a striker, I'm honestly just curious. Most of my friends are United fans and are extremely fecked off that Lukaku continually gets 90mins when the game is wrapped up and would rather see Rashford get on. Il stop the derailing.

Rashford plays well out wide. He destroyed Liverpool there recently. It's important that young players learn some versatility. Lukaku has been our best player of late so it makes no sense to move him from #9.

 

[RedDevil@84]

How many appearances were as a striker? As compared to a winger?

He seems very capable of playing on the left. Why would we want all our players to play in same position?

 

[Red_toad]

Lad could do well going back to Southampton. Not sure where all the Spurs stuff comes from Poch had the same kind of issues with him.

I still hope he can find a way back at United, but looks like Jose wants players who will do exactly as he wishes and are very professional.

 

[Handré1990]

Seeing the player in the Brighton game was a pretty saddening affair, when thinking how talented the player was when playing under Poch only 18 yrs of age. Difficult to assess how big an impact that horrific injury has had on him, but one thing is for sure he’s a shadow of the player he was.

He turns 23 in the summer, his days at Utd are obviously numbered so where will he go and what would be the best move for him?

Myself I would love it if Poch took him back and gave him an opportunity to rebuild his career with Spurs. Then hopefully he could get one back on Mourinho for the horrible way in which he’s been treated by him.

Which of these teams do you support, Liverpool, City or Tottenham?

 

[OldSchoolManc]

Poor little lamb. His next move should be down the fekkin job centre.

 

[Nickosaur]

He's going to have to take several steps down. He does (did?) have potential to be top class, I doubt we'll ever see it though.

 

[Rashford2good]

Not been the same since his leg break which is understandable but I think we should kindly show him the door now, he tried to regain his momentum but a combination of lack of confidence and jose hanging him out to dry at every given opportunity means he's on a road to nowhere.

 

[Snow]

He might become good in 5 years. He doesn't seem to have much of a football brain tbh. Might be decent in a team like Palace where he can play like van Aanholt with no regards to how he's supposed to defend and make runs and then flatter to deceive.

 

[DWelbz19]

Next move is real important for his career.

Needs a far more transparent road to first team football with a 'softer' manager but still one who'll give him a kick up the back where necessary. Maybe then he'll be able to realise most of his potential. Otherwise I fear it's another case of a player never hitting the heights he could have.

 

[Kostur]

Drown his sorrows at McDonald's.

 

[the unknown one.]

KFC

 

[Damien]

Everton is fairly nailed on.

 

[VP89]

Was it poch that worked with him at Spurs? I can't remember. If so I can see a straight swap. No cash needed because both players equally seem to want out.

 

[simplyared]

Which of these teams do you support, Liverpool, City or Tottenham?

None of them. Utd supporter.

 

[Sky1981]

Stop blaming the manager.

His job is on the line and do you honestly thinks if shaw is soo good jose will not play him in his squad because he doesn't like youth?

Jose is a pragmatist, he plays rashford mctominay and anyone if they're going to help him win regardless of their age. If you're good enough you're old enough.

 

[Nytram Shakes]

Spurs would be perfect for him, but i would guess he would have to take a wage drop.

 

[Handré1990]

None of them. Utd supporter.

Are you.... sure?

 

[devilish]

Spurs would be perfect for him, but i would guess he would have to take a wage drop.

I think Spurs deserves better then someone who did feck all with us.

 

[DomesticTadpole]

Spurs would be perfect for him, but i would guess he would have to take a wage drop.

He would. Spurs don't pay our sort of money and if they did give him that sort of money the other players would go bonkers.

 

[The Bloody-Nine]

United fan concerned for the club's future and the antics of the club's present manager!

'Antics'. Ffs. When Shaw showed up a fat ass under LvG was that the manager's fault too?

He's been given plenty of chances and publicly admitted he hadn't been applying himself properly. Don't do your job to the best of your abilities you can piss off.

 

[tomaldinho1]

Absolutely.
1444 minutes of playing-time in the PL (10th most at our club), with 14 starts and 13 subs out of 30 games, that's only 3 games he hasn't been involved in the league so far this season.
That's about the same minutes as Dembele, Trippier & slightly less than Son.
He's also played 349 minutes in the Champions League (9th most at our club).
On top of those he has minutes in the league cup and FA cup.

He's not starving for game-time at all.

Anyone who has watched United this season can see he's getting good game time - he's also had an injury. The papers are so blindly biased and pushing so many anti United agendas (one of which is the Rashford not developing line) that it's hard to keep track of them all.

Mou really likes him because he's a grafter so I see him becoming a key part of our first team. I really hope Martial also gets into Mou's good books because as raw talent goes, I see him as an incredibly exciting No 9 or LW.

 

[Ødegaard]

Anyone who has watched United this season can see he's getting good game time - he's also had an injury. The papers are so blindly biased and pushing so many anti United agendas (one of which is the Rashford not developing line) that it's hard to keep track of them all.

Mou really likes him because he's a grafter so I see him becoming a key part of our first team. I really hope Martial also gets into Mou's good books because as raw talent goes, I see him as an incredibly exciting No 9 or LW.

Yeah, the narratives pushed around are insanely annoying when they are easily proved wrong. Just like shit refs should be held accountable so should shit pundits.

 

[Damien]

Spurs would be perfect for him, but i would guess he would have to take a wage drop.

Spurs will probably go for Sessegnon. Everton pay Schneiderlin over 100k/week apparently so Shaw can go there without a reduction in wages.

 

[Ballache]

Everton for £25m. Shame it hasn't worked out.

 

[DomesticTadpole]

Everton for £25m. Shame it hasn't worked out.

Then they realise Leighton Baines is still better, even at his age.

 

[Smores]

I don't even buy into the wasted talent line anymore, he's had one good season in his career at a mid lower lvl club that only stood out because of his age and nationality.

Such players pop up all the time and fade into obscurity. If he'd have come through our ranks rather than bought he'd be long gone by now

 

[DomesticTadpole]

I don't even buy into the wasted talent line anymore, he's had one good season in his career at a mid lower lvl club that only stood out because of his age and nationality.

Such players pop up all the time and fade into obscurity. If he'd have come through our ranks rather than bought he'd be long gone by now

Maybe it will teach us not to follow in Liverpool's steps and sign Southampton players.