Luke Shaw responds to Jose Mourinho

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“I think he was a brilliant manager but you know, the past is the past”

Brutal :lol:
 

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Ole wanted a new left back to compete with Shaw. Mourinho wanted one to replace him.
He just wanted one competent enough in case of injuries for Shaw.

I never thought Telles had a chance to displace Shaw if the latter remained fit.
 

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Too much melodrama but if Shaw is being criticized he's got a right to respond. It's all a bit irrelevant now, bit like Mourinho's career at club level.
That's only because Shaw seems to be genuinely over it and grown as a person off the back of Mourinho digging him out whilst here. If that wasn't the case, Mourinho would be planting more seeds and potentially damaging Shaw's confidence yet again.

He needs to be exposed and chewed to pieces, which is why it's great Shaw has spoken out. Mourinho has to choose his words wisely, lest he look like a petty, bitter, washed up once-great coach trying to generate controversial soundbites to keep him in the spotlight... he's a manager and should be above exchanges with players. Shaw's put it out there that he was bullied by Mourinho; Mourinho is on very shaky ground with his words from this point onward, which is great.
 

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To be fair Ole wanted a new left back to replace Shaw too, when Reguilon knocked us back to go to Spurs we got Telles on loan who turned out to be completely rubbish. Thankfully it lit a fire under Shaw though.
He wanted LB to improve the competition for places. We didnt try to sell Shaw, there was 0 rumors about selling him.

Shaw wasn't always at this level though, I remember in 2019-20 season where he didn't make many attacking runs and when Brandon Williams made couple of runs, it looked like something very new. The way the player was handled was very different, Jose doesn't have to praise him when he didn't play well, he didn't even keep quiet when Shaw played well, he shat on him saying he lacked brain and it was Jose who played the game in Shaw's body.
 

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I’m happy he’s actually said something directly to him this time - Mou is such a washed up, bitter has been.
 

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It’s easy to say Mourinho’s comments are just punditry… but if so, it’s just bad punditry.

Like focusing on a few corner kicks rather than how Shaw actually played very well and has created more chances in this tournament than any other England player, despite playing just two out of three.

When it comes to Shaw, Mourinho could never just give him praise… he has to have a dig about something. It’s a bit weird. At the start of the tournament he was saying that he would not start Shaw because Chilwell is a better player. Since the tournament started he had a dig at him for not being attacking enough against Scotland when it could have been Southgate’s instruction. Also the odd corner kick focus in the last game.

Based on Shaw’s recent performances this season and in this tournament so far… he’d deserve far more positive comments than any negative by any pundit that was being remotely fair.
 

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It’s easy to say Mourinho’s comments are just punditry… but if so, it’s just bad punditry.

Like focusing on a few corner kicks rather than how Shaw actually played very well and has created more chances in this tournament than any other England player, despite playing just two out of three.

When it comes to Shaw, Mourinho could never just give him praise… he has to have a dig about something. It’s a bit weird. At the start of the tournament he was saying that he would not start Shaw because Chilwell is a better player. Since the tournament started he had a dig at him for not being attacking enough against Scotland when it could have been Southgate’s instruction. Also the odd corner kick focus in the last game.

Based on Shaw’s recent performances this season and in this tournament so far… he’d deserve far more positive comments than any negative by any pundit that was being remotely fair.
As someone said it is all about the fact he signed for us and not him at Chelsea. Bitterness personified.
 

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As someone said it is all about the fact he signed for us and not him at Chelsea. Bitterness personified.
Don't think it's that. Moucunt has gone too far with Shaw now to be able to accept he was wrong. It's one thing for a player to not perform but he made it very public and even resorted to that weird as feck interview about my brain + Shaw's body to justify a good performance. He's criticized him so much that he's nailed his balls to that mast and being an egotistical Twat that he is, he'll do everything to downplay Shaw's performances
 

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Jose is on Talksport breakfast show tomorrow and they are squealing with delight at the fallout on it's way.
That man just a king of media manipulation. Shaw shouldn't have bite that but he did. Now he will talk about Shaw s trophy counts and all.

His every touch in football hereafter put under microscope. Shaw can't win this war and will be under immense pressure. Jose wins always. That man has no shame. Will be laughable if he is on your side but that bitter man will go any low to score one over.
 

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That man just a king of media manipulation. Shaw shouldn't have bite that but he did. Now he will talk about Shaw s trophy counts and all.

His every touch in football hereafter put under microscope. Shaw can't win this war and will be under immense pressure. Jose wins always. That man has no shame. Will be laughable if he is on your side but that bitter man will go any low to score one over.
Except at football matches nowadays.
 

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Don't think it's that. Moucunt has gone too far with Shaw now to be able to accept he was wrong. It's one thing for a player to not perform but he made it very public and even resorted to that weird as feck interview about my brain + Shaw's body to justify a good performance. He's criticized him so much that he's nailed his balls to that mast and being an egotistical Twat that he is, he'll do everything to downplay Shaw's performances
Didn't he basically say he was fat and thick when he was here. No wonder Luke is annoyed. He can't give credit where it is due and when he does he has to make sure he gets some credit for himself in there.
 

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That man just a king of media manipulation. Shaw shouldn't have bite that but he did. Now he will talk about Shaw s trophy counts and all.

His every touch in football hereafter put under microscope. Shaw can't win this war and will be under immense pressure. Jose wins always. That man has no shame. Will be laughable if he is on your side but that bitter man will go any low to score one over.
He already has. Jose was sacked, Shaw was the best LB in the league last season and is back in the England squad.
 

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He already has. Jose was sacked, Shaw was the best LB in the league last season and is back in the England squad.
Jose is talking shit because at the moment he is paid to talk shit and generate clicks for Talksport or whoever else he has sold his soul to.

There's no "winning" this sort of thing. You only become a loser for actually engaging with it in any way other than derisive laughter.
 

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I hope he gets sacked at Roma within a month and is back crying on Skysports about how the football world forgot about him.
 

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Jose is talking shit because at the moment he is paid to talk shit and generate clicks for Talksport or whoever else he has sold his soul to.

There's no "winning" this sort of thing. You only become a loser for actually engaging with it in any way other than derisive laughter.
As much as this is unfortunate for the players, that's most likely the case.
 

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I hope he gets sacked at Roma within a month and is back crying on Skysports about how the football world forgot about him.
Roma might well sack him but hope he won't do any media duties. That man will become superstar if he do media work.
 

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That man just a king of media manipulation. Shaw shouldn't have bite that but he did. Now he will talk about Shaw s trophy counts and all.

His every touch in football hereafter put under microscope. Shaw can't win this war and will be under immense pressure. Jose wins always. That man has no shame. Will be laughable if he is on your side but that bitter man will go any low to score one over.
No, Jose always doesn't win. Luckily most of the journalists sees what a bitter man he is.
 

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Drama created purely by the media industry.

Jose is paid right now to talk, he cannot ignore questions on Luke Shaw. Jose isn't spontaneously jumping online to make troll comments because "he has an agenda".
 

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Jose is talking shit because at the moment he is paid to talk shit and generate clicks for Talksport or whoever else he has sold his soul to.

There's no "winning" this sort of thing. You only become a loser for actually engaging with it in any way other than derisive laughter.
Jose talks shit about Shaw not just on Talksport
 

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Mourinho never got over Shaw's brother calling him a clueless cnut.
 

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Didn't he basically say he was fat and thick when he was here. No wonder Luke is annoyed. He can't give credit where it is due and when he does he has to make sure he gets some credit for himself in there.
More a case that Van Gaal called him fat and Mourinho called him thick.
There clearly has been an issue in the past with Shaw, which has changed as he's matured. The difference was that Van Gaal was just being typically forthright and there was never anything personal or malicious about it, and he dealt with it by putting him on a fitness programme, whereas Mourinho (also typically) set out to undermine him. I don't know if he thinks it's just " tough love", but it's certainly dinosaur management tactics from the days of Brian Clough.
 

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More a case that Van Gaal called him fat and Mourinho called him thick.
There clearly has been an issue in the past with Shaw, which has changed as he's matured. The difference was that Van Gaal was just being typically forthright and there was never anything personal or malicious about it, and he dealt with it by putting him on a fitness programme, whereas Mourinho (also typically) set out to undermine him. I don't know if he thinks it's just " tough love", but it's certainly dinosaur management tactics from the days of Brian Clough.
Think he has grown up, he has a family now, so partner might be making sure he eats correctly and has a quieter lifestyle.
 

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Good for Luke. The way he was treated by Jose was little short of appalling.
 

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