So that's what Louis was doing immediately after we scored at Anfield - writing on his daughter's birthday card.
Ryan was celebrating because he got an invite.
Ryan was celebrating because he got an invite.
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The fact that SAF ran everything, had a say in everything. Giggs does not have the experience to do that. So they either need an experienced manager or Giggs will need a DOF.
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Might be nothing to it, but this trip to Holland gives me a bit of hope that something is happening.
I just dont understand him being given time out of the country for supposedly a simple birthday. Will he get the same for his other Daughter's birthday, his wife's, a wedding anniversary?
I just dont understand him being given time out of the country for supposedly a simple birthday. Will he get the same for his other Daughter's birthday, his wife's, a wedding anniversary?
Thats possibly worse than the Birthday excuse.
Theyre playing shite and getting days off? feck that
I'd like us to move to a DoF system regardless of who our next manager is really. We need someone who knows football, someone on the younger side. Like Bayern did with Sammer. Not sure Woodward's ego would allow for such a change though. The power he seems to have been given really is mind boggling for someone with no football experience/knowledge beyond the avg caf poster.
But when you play like we did on Saturday and lose at home.. Again.
Then schedules should change.
I saw that LvG apologised to the fans for not meeting their expectations, must be a few pages back in here I can't find it.
Despite agreeing that his time is up now, at least he is taking responsibility on the chin instead of blaming everyone else, like Moyes and many other managers do. It is quite possible that he will walk rather than being pushed, he is a proud man. He is under no illusions regarding what is expected of him and is disappointed with himself for not meeting those expectations.
http://www.goal.com/en-us/news/85/e...al-apologizes-to-manchester-united-supporters
Despite agreeing that his time is up now, at least he is taking responsibility on the chin instead of blaming everyone else, like Moyes and many other managers do. It is quite possible that he will walk rather than being pushed, he is a proud man. He is under no illusions regarding what is expected of him and is disappointed with himself for not meeting those expectations.
Those comments from LVG sound like a man that knows his time is up. It's basically an admission that he's failed at his job and cannot turn it around.
Van Gaal is much better manager and a much better man than David Moyes. That shouldn't even be questioned.
But alas, he has got it very wrong during his reign at United and he can't seemingly turn it around. It's a shame its his last job but we can't be sympathetic.
Ducker has already confirmed we're off today as well. There's such a thing as overtraining and giving the players too much information.
Not only that but I think he's mystified that his usual methods haven't worked. He's almost as exasperated as us.
If he feels that way then imagine the state of the players.
I was in the 'evaluate until the end of season' camp but after Saturday he needs to go ASAP. Our stats at home are horrendous we haven't scored in the first half at home for 11 games FFS. Give it to Giggs until the end of the season then try to get Pep in if not Mourinho. At the end of the season if we pass up on both of them and hire Giggs permanently than our board are certified idiots.
no he's thrown kids into the shit over and over again. - you're delusional and probably want him to stay. he's going to get fired because of these errors not kept on because he has a "plan". Calm down Dude really calm down dude and you go on about being adult. get to school boy!
I'd agree in principle but, as has been said, schedules change in extreme circumstances.
Getting the players in for extra training isn't about overloading with new information or trying to teach something new - it's about debriefing whilst emotions are still raw and players are still replaying their own games in their heads. Everything neutralises after a day or two and things won't seem quite as bad tomorrow as they did on Sunday.
To get an immediate reaction from the players, and coaches it seems, they needed to be reviewing the game on Sunday morning. If only for an hour or two. An extended break, before a Friday FA Cup fixture no less, is crazy. It basically means they're not planning on having more than one proper training session this week.
How the feck is he still here
He isn't going anywhere is he? Our board are a complete fecking joke.
Van Gaal does tend to make a fuss about family birthday celebrations - I just saw some photos of his 60th, and you'd think it was a wedding reception it was that impressive.
Problem with the training of course is that even when LvG isn't there, his cronies are, that includes Ryan. Same old stuff. Until they have all gone nothing will change. It is too late for them to change.
You really do have to laugh sometimes. In awful form, well not sure we can just call it form anymore, with a game coming up on Friday and we have a day scheduled off?!
It's a bit of a joke that he's still here now even he can see that with those admissions. It'll be the same thing though that happened after the Chelsea game, we'll beat Derby 2-0 or something and he'll come out saying how he can't walk away due to "the great reaction of the players and of the fans".
It's a bit of a joke that he's still here now even he can see that with those admissions. It'll be the same thing though that happened after the Chelsea game, we'll beat Derby 2-0 or something and he'll come out saying how he can't walk away due to "the great reaction of the players and of the fans".
There's always a knife to cut the cake. Maybe he's trying to tempt Giggs to stab him in the back...
Some very good points in that thread. I am not sure I agree with the age balance or quality of the side. Why were players like Anderson kept in the squad, why did Scholes have to come out of retirement. The difference in squads from his first decision to retire to the second was quite alarming.
Not knocking his qualities or accomplishments but still think he could have left us in a better state.
With the stories floating around that he wanted to step down around Christmas time but he was persuaded not to, and his health issues, would it be surprising to anyone if we found out that he's being over stressed at the moment and the club have given him a couple of days time off? And before anyone says "but he's our manager he shouldn't get time off" imagine being in a situation where your health of being seriously affected by a combination of age, stress and illness, but you feel compelled to stay in your job through what might be a sense of duty or personal pride. I'm just throwing shit at a wall and seeing what sticks but this won't be as clear cut as it seems.
Shouldn't they just allow him to feck off then, what do they want to do kill him?
Maybe during the winter it wasn't that clear that he was being affected by it as badly as everyone thought? Maybe Woody is an arsehole? They could be giving him time to make a decision whilst he's in Holland. Again I'm just putting my thoughts out there, they're probably bollocks.
Personally I hope he has resigned, and we are trying to sort things out before announcing. However I am not holding my breathe
I want him gone now, as do many others. What I do hope though, is that when he does go, we can show some decency and actually appreciate that he did move things forward last season.
Things have gone bad and appear unresolvable with him at the helm, so it is time for him to go, but let's show some class when the time inevitably arrives. He's not an enemy after all, he's someone who wanted to succeed for us but ultimately has been found wanting.
That said, if the reports in the Mirror (about Woodward persuading LVG to stay on two occasions when he's offered to resign) are true then Woodward needs to have a good look at himself and his role in knowing what's best for the club.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/louis-van-gaal-news-roundup-7240255
Things have gone bad and appear unresolvable with him at the helm, so it is time for him to go, but let's show some class when the time inevitably arrives. He's not an enemy after all, he's someone who wanted to succeed for us but ultimately has been found wanting.
That said, if the reports in the Mirror (about Woodward persuading LVG to stay on two occasions when he's offered to resign) are true then Woodward needs to have a good look at himself and his role in knowing what's best for the club.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/louis-van-gaal-news-roundup-7240255
You're too quick for my sneaky edits lol!
Yep, just got to decide whether that contract for Giggs is a 5 or 6 year one.
Can't believe he hasn't gone yet 
this is madness
this is madnessHe's going nowhere. If this isn't enough to move him on then he will see out his deal.
1 - We look calm on the ball for the first time in years, granted the last few months it's been because teams know that they don't have to change us, but in his first year when teams put us under pressure we seemed to handle it really well.
2 - He's apparently done a lot for the infrastructure of the club, not just to our training facilities.
3 - He called a precious journalist "fat" and hurt the fat cnuts feelings.
You can just see it all written out, Comic Sans font, WordArt header of "Contract for Goggs".
Refreshing at work hoping for some news...
What if we keep playing shite/losing?
like champions? wait we won it in a trot. not for nothing there have been 3 summer windows and almost 3 winter windows in which to get it done and two mgrs failed to get close to good football let alone a championship. give it up .
And you can see the section called "People who support this appointment:"
Alex Frogie
Bobby Charlton
Gary Neville
Someone who put a tenner on it
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