No, I meant swapping Tardelli and Matthäus around. It's a bit shit, I know. TBH, if anything, Brio is sitting on the sidelines laughing his arse off here: "That was the point of me you wankers"Who would you use for it? Play Furino instead? He's hardly helping with the height problem
I'm talking about your overall approach, not today. It wouldn't be interesting if everyone would've had the same opinion though. I don't think that Brehme would've been better marker for Nedved than Gentile and if I wasn't going to man-mark Gentile I would've gone for an additional forward, not a wing-back.
WTF? You just said Kohler would get beat by all three of them, then so would Scirea, and Bergomi is basically on the other side and away from the hotspot. How is he perfectly set up to deal with them? How are any crosses Maldini gets in less dangerous than Boniek on the ball running at Baresi (if Redondo hasn't done any covering)?
What about Redondo there? From overrated, to underated to totally ignored? I love that the Dutch trio are finally showing what a bitch they were to face. You have to coop with their skill level, their physicality and their damn height(read overall greatness on crosses). Incredibly hard to find a defense and central midfield capable of doing that.Yeah, I wouldn't have picked him ahead of Kohler, possibly Matthäus, definitely Batistuta relative to Rossi... and I would be playing a back four anyway, but if it's a back five Brehme is a no-brainer. I do get harms' point though that two wingbacks isn't true to Trap, which is fair enough.
It's a fundamental flaw, they are all midgets! The lot of them! To be fair, that late 70's/early 80's Juve side is freakishly small. Pep's Barca side were giants in comparison.
Yup this this and this.Now there's a thought... I did feel Matthäus starting ahead of Furino somewhat weakened the defensive part of the midfield (I'm not underrating Matthäus here, just feel his Inter persona was better pulling strings and his short self isn't very handy here).
What about this?
Wouldn't really call it a diamond but a lopsided version of a 4-3-3.
Well aye, although it was a true 3-5-2 with wing-backs by the time he took over Italy for Euro 2000.
Should have picked Hamann instead of Matthäus. As stupid as it sounds, but he would be a good fit for the DM role in this game.
You get my post now? The one saying "I thought that was the point of Matthäus". NOT.
You're twisting what I said completely mate. I never said Kohler would get beat by all three of them I said he was worse than them and he is. But you don't have to be better on crosses than your opponent to do a damn good job on them to limit their ability to score. Especially with an all-time goalkeeper helping you out.
Actually a really good shout, even though it would have been impossible to win votes in a draft with him.
No one needs to man mark Nedved, he's not Pele. Again I'm not sure what's going on here. There are much better players on the pitch than Pavel Nedved.
That wasn't a classic Trap side, just a function of what was best to do with the sort of player Italy had. With clubs you can buy and sell to put together your vision, with NTs you have to make do with the best combo of what's available.
I get you mate
The idea would be, I suppose, that Edgar's midfield is a bit arse heavy, lacking a bit in terms of pure creativity: Nedved has an important role to play here as a creator of plays - and if you manage to suffocate him to a fair degree, you have done damage to Edgar's supply line, as it were.
You said they were better and it would be a complete destruction, particularly with Rijkaard joining, not much twisting needed there. TBH, I fail to see how the "skill gap between Scirea and Gullit/MvB" (height/physique/jumping/heading, I assume) is any more significant than that of Batistuta vs. Baresi/Costacurta. It doesn't mean every cross is a goal though, clearly, or else someone would have worked that out back in the day.
Which is what having another midfielder accomplishes by releasing Matthäus to play his Inter role, Platini suddenly doesn't have the entire world on his shoulders.
Well I guess you can call it a diamond but I referred to it as a 4-3-3 as I would prefer to think of Platini, in that set up, as more of a forward than a midfielder.
You are talking about runs once on the ball, yes, he can do them. The point is most of the time he has a very clear and massive defensive role to fulfill, he is on the same side as both Rijkaard and Gullit (unless he is just meant to leave them for the defenders to stop in and around the box). Give that to someone else and he has a lot more freedom to influence the game and Platini even more so.
I totally forgot that I still can do the Furino formation
Agreed that Nedved has an important role to play here. You'd only have to look at the discussion on the Dutch trio's aerial dominance to comprehend the crucial roles that Nedved's and Cafu's service from the flanks play in this match.
If it's just about being on that side. He can switch it with Tardelli. Unlikely that both Redondo or Rijkarrd would make a run forward at the same time.
Oh, 1 sub? I always assumed that 3 subs are allowed, like in a CL game, for example. I know feck all about draft rules though
I don't know for sure either mate. Vaguely recall, in one of the previous games I recall someone telling me that was the rule. Some of the older players would know better.
But after the strengths/weakness are debated in detail, this just wipes out any advantage gained by a manager till now.
I think Matthäus with 2 defensive monstrosities in Tardelli and Furino, with the latter being a holding midfielder frees him up more than his midfield duo role, where he is responsible for keeping an eye on midfield runners or Gullit dropping deep whilst being at the fore of the midfield battle with occasional support from Scirea who also has the duty of sweeping up.
Nah. The 24-hour voting window is the equivalent of a 90-minute match. Harms isn't going back to the 1st minute after he makes every sub. That's why we would have the score posted after every tactical or personnel change in the OP.
