Manchester City under Pep Guardiola | Pep on City v Liverpool ref: "He likes to be special"

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First one outside the box, second is a dive and neither of the last 2 are deliberate handball, they aren't even looking at the ball.

Was a good laugh to watch the whining again though!
Whilst I tend to agree they aren't quite as nailed on as some, the first was holding, and the laws say if holding continues into the box its a penalty. The second one I think is 50/50, I don't think the slight shirt pull is enough, but coupled with the trip I'd give it. The third the pundits are talking crap, it doesn't matter at all where the ball was going, intent is the key and I think its unnatural to leave your arm in that 'frozen' position so I think its a penalty. The last one is the most obvious of all, you simply cannot throw your arms above yourself, turn your head away and say "not looking".
 

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Many managers failed to reach semis with teams as strong as those.
Of course not! Barcelona and Bayern are the first ever teams who had great players in the history of the game. Don't you understand! Seriously the envy and bitterness surrounding Pep from some quarters is nothing short of baffling.
 

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The Malouda foul was inside the box, and Anelka situation was as clear as it can get.
 

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Whilst I tend to agree they aren't quite as nailed on as some, the first was holding, and the laws say if holding continues into the box its a penalty. The second one I think is 50/50, I don't think the slight shirt pull is enough, but coupled with the trip I'd give it. The third the pundits are talking crap, it doesn't matter at all where the ball was going, intent is the key and I think its unnatural to leave your arm in that 'frozen' position so I think its a penalty. The last one is the most obvious of all, you simply cannot throw your arms above yourself, turn your head away and say "not looking".
Largely agree, the 4th one is debatable because of where is arm is, could be given. The other 3 no chance. The first one he lets go of him before they go in the box.
 

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All well and good doing it when you have Messi in your team and winning the BL with Munich but his CL campaigns since leaving Barcelona are exposing him. He's too clever for his own good and his formations/choices are bizarre. Going away to Monaco with one recognized CM :lol:
 

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All well and good doing it when you have Messi in your team and winning the BL with Munich but his CL campaigns since leaving Barcelona are exposing him. He's too clever for his own good and his formations/choices are bizarre. Going away to Monaco with one recognized CM :lol:
Image playing with Tourè instead of Fernandinho. It would have been a massacre. Grandpa Yaya against Monaco midfielders :D
 

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Image playing with Tourè instead of Fernandinho. It would have been a massacre. Grandpa Yaya against Monaco midfielders :D
Should have just played the both of them and dropped one of Silva/KDB. Playing with one CM and that joke of a defense away to Monaco is just asking for trouble.
 

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His teams have been poor in CL away games. Notably in the knockout rounds. Actually has a Pep led team won more an away game in the CL knockout phase? I can only recall Barcelona's win over Leverkusen in 2011-2012. Nothing else comes to mind.
 

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Pep sounds like he just smoked a huge reefer in his post match interview.
 

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Time we got a song for him imo, help me finish it guys.

♪Poop, Poop, wherever you may be,
You are shit without Messi,
You couldn't be worse if you were a rag
Put in toilet seats in the Emptihad♪
 

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All well and good doing it when you have Messi in your team and winning the BL with Munich but his CL campaigns since leaving Barcelona are exposing him. He's too clever for his own good and his formations/choices are bizarre. Going away to Monaco with one recognized CM :lol:
Five forwards, three full backs and the one actual centre back.... John Stones.
 

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He (or something) fails to get Silva to tick it seems..

Silva was bad in first half. He's getting old and he's been mediocre for quite some time now.. compared to around 2011-13 where he peaked. Now he's 31 has half the end-product (2 goals, 3 assists in 22 league-games) and City need to find the new Silva.
 

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I wonder what it will take for City to finally be feared in Europe. You can't help but feel that the European elite still don't take them too seriously as rivals. Chelsea was feared in Europe by 2005, which was like two years after Abramovich took over. City have had oil money for almost a decade now and they still aren't considered particularly relevant in the CL.
 

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He is so stubborn to change his tactics based on the opposition. Does he not realize that he doesn't have world class players in every position now? City's defensive organisation was amateurish. It is the exact kind of criticism Wenger faces every year.
It only is because football fans like easy digestible explanations that fit into a black and white narrative. Managers are either adapting their tactics = setting up defensively to play on the counter, or stubborn = not setting up defensively. Even when a Wenger's team is basically forced to sit back, the narrative afterwards is that he "adapted" if the team wins of course to justify that sort of nonsense. Sadly that kind of over-simplified analysis is expanding even more with social media.
 

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I wonder what it will take for City to finally be feared in Europe. You can't help but feel that the European elite still don't take them too seriously as rivals. Chelsea was feared in Europe by 2005, which was like two years after Abramovich took over. City have had oil money for almost a decade now and they still aren't considered particularly relevant in the CL.
They're just warming our spot while we recharge our batteries.
 

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Amazingly enough we're on a course to have a better season than City, even if they do finish ahead of us in the PL.
 

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His teams have been poor in CL away games. Notably in the knockout rounds. Actually has a Pep led team won more than 1 away game in the CL knockout phase? I can only recall Barcelona's win over Leverkusen in 2011-2012.
Pep Guardiola CL knockout away games:

Barca 08/09
Lyon 1-1 Barca
Bayern 1-1 Barca
Chelsea 1-1 Barca

Barca 09/10
Stuttgart 1-1 Barca
Arsenal 2-2 Barca
Inter Milan 3-1 Barca

Barca 10/11
Arsenal 2-1 Barca
Shakhtar 0-1 Barca
Real Madrid 0-2 Barca

Barca 11/12
Leverkusen 1-3 Barca
Milan 0-0 Barca
Chelsea 1-0 Barca

Bayern 13/14
Arsenal 0-2 Bayern
Man Utd 1-1 Bayern
Real Madrid 1-0 Bayern

Bayern 14/15
Shakhtar 0-0 Bayern
Porto 3-1 Bayern
Barca 3-0 Bayern

Bayern 15/16
Juventus 2-2 Bayern
Benfica 2-2 Bayern
Atletico 1-0 Bayern

Man City 16/17
Monaco 3-1 Man City

4 wins, 10 draws, 8 losses
 

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I wonder what it will take for City to finally be feared in Europe. You can't help but feel that the European elite still don't take them too seriously as rivals. Chelsea was feared in Europe by 2005, which was like two years after Abramovich took over. City have had oil money for almost a decade now and they still aren't considered particularly relevant in the CL.
Because we are for the best part bottlers. I know its weird to say of a team who came from behind twice to win the championship but I said last year that our team is mentally weak. We're great when we're on a roll but when the chips are down, heads drop, we scuff chances and miss passes. Team know they can rattle us and we lack winning mentality on the pitch (VK aside, who might never play more than 10 more games for us.)

We've never created the invincible feeling of Jose's Chelsea or Fergusons United and until we become more ruthless we never will.
 

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He (or something) fails to get Silva to tick it seems..

Silva was bad in first half. He's getting old and he's been mediocre for quite some time now.. compared to around 2011-13 where he peaked. Now he's 31 has half the end-product (2 goals, 3 assists in 22 league-games) and City need to find the new Silva.
City fans have been raving about Silva most of the season, saying it's been one of his best for them. Guess he's mostly playing much deeper.
 

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I wonder what it will take for City to finally be feared in Europe. You can't help but feel that the European elite still don't take them too seriously as rivals. Chelsea was feared in Europe by 2005, which was like two years after Abramovich took over. City have had oil money for almost a decade now and they still aren't considered particularly relevant in the CL.
To do well obviously? Register some big relevant wins and go far in the competition. Chelsea did that with those two games vs Barcelona and then Bayern that took them to the semis and instantly became a force. Although, we have to also remember that back in 2005, nobody was as good as the current Barcelona side and maybe even Bayern and Real which City had to face the past few years.
 

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He's a good manager no doubt, and brave of him to come to PL where he knew he wouldn't have the exclusive rights to the best players in the world. Unfortunately for him, now we can see his true level.

Imo he's nowhere near the disscussion for best manager in the world.
 

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Pep Guardiola CL knockout away games:

Barca 08/09
Lyon 1-1 Barca
Bayern 1-1 Barca
Chelsea 1-1 Barca

Barca 09/10
Stuttgart 1-1 Barca
Arsenal 2-2 Barca
Inter Milan 3-1 Barca

Barca 10/11
Arsenal 2-1 Barca
Shakhtar 0-1 Barca
Real Madrid 0-2 Barca

Barca 11/12
Leverkusen 1-3 Barca
Milan 0-0 Barca
Chelsea 1-0 Barca

Bayern 13/14
Arsenal 0-2 Bayern
Man Utd 1-1 Bayern
Real Madrid 1-0 Bayern

Bayern 14/15
Shakhtar 0-0 Bayern
Porto 3-1 Bayern
Barca 3-0 Bayern

Bayern 15/16
Juventus 2-2 Bayern
Benfica 2-2 Bayern
Atletico 1-0 Bayern

Man City 16/17
Monaco 3-1 Man City

4 wins, 10 draws, 8 losses
Thanks.

I can't believe I forgot Barcelona's win at the Bernabeu in 2011. Mind went blank.
 

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How is it that so many have been praising him in the media, look at that defence and the goal keeping fiasco? Not that I do not enjoy this but how can a guy playing with Kolarov and Stones in central defence and Willy or Bravo in goal be considered a genius? Stones is the most overrated defender I´ve seen in a long time and Kolarov is no a central defender. This joke with Hart was so funny and how many points did they lose because of the insistance to play Bravo even though most could see he was out of his depth. Of course Pep has had a great career but Barcelona and Bayern are institutions that are well run and perhaps Pep is finding it a little bit more difficult at the small club in Manchester.
 
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All well and good doing it when you have Messi in your team and winning the BL with Munich but his CL campaigns since leaving Barcelona are exposing him. He's too clever for his own good and his formations/choices are bizarre. Going away to Monaco with one recognized CM :lol:
indeed; he's own worst enemy in many ways- alienating key players, playing them out of position and constantly trying to reinvent football. I wish he could be simpler and continue with what works rather than tinker himself out of a well, very well paying job
 

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I get the impression with Guardiola that he is very weak mentally

Sir Alex and his mind games would've had an absolute field day with him
 

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Wenger is supposed to be passed it and Guardiola's supposed to be some football revolutionary,

but Guardiola is still using Wengers shit full backs from ten years ago.

(Stolen from Twitter)
 

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Messi paint your pictures
About how it's gonna be
By now I should know better
But up front I'll try Clichy
But tell me all about our tiki-taka by the sea
Oh Messi you can always sell any dream to me
Oh Messi you can always sell any dream to me
 

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Guardiola got an honorary PhD and was made Provost without a day in the lab, it's ok if you stay at your alma mater forever but in the outer world you are just an inexperienced schmoozer to the wolves herd.
 

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City fans have been raving about Silva most of the season, saying it's been one of his best for them. Guess he's mostly playing much deeper.
Gotta admit I've only seen a few games with him this season - he's just not been the old Silva to me in those, but hey, makes sense with the 2 goals and 3 assists if he's playing deeper