Oh feck off. Another 100m down the drain I bet.
Manchester United ready to back José Mourinho with £100m-plus in January
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I don't think you can get these prices for top quality, especially in January.
What would the excuse be when the £100m signings don’t work? We’ve spent £195m on Matic,Lukaku,Lindelof & Fred in the last 2 season’s. Let thag sink in. Ontop of that Sanchez’ out of this world wages.
Only two CBs in history have cost more than £50mil, with Laporte only just over at £52mil.
Fans: C'mon back Mourinho - We're not spending enough
Woodward: Alright, there's 100m available this winter
Fans: Feck afffff. It's money right out the window
Woodward: Alright, there's 100m available this winter
Fans: Feck afffff. It's money right out the window
Two different sets of fans in most cases there pal.
Would rather give the money to our new manager.
It's obvious Mourinho will be gone by the summer.
It's obvious Mourinho will be gone by the summer.
Inflation in football looks nothing like inflation in everyday life. Prices increased even since Laporte. We were qouted 60m for Alderweireld who is not on a long term contract, and similar money for Maguire, who is not universally accepted as a "top" CB.
I think 60m is the least you are looking at, then you add the fact that it is in January and you might have to add a premium to that.
Transfers are complicated and maybe we will get lucky (a CB stops training and is hell-bent on coming to United for example might help with the price), but I think my original estimate is realistic. We can buy a top CB and a Dalot-type signing for 100m in January (not two top players). It is a whole different question how transformative that would be to our season.
I don't think it will be down the drain. They dismissed the transfer requests this summer because of their opinion it wouldn't improve the defense. So the management is not stupid. Either they want to go on with Mourinho but watch his requests carefully, or maybe they are eying a manager for next season and will ok transfers with him. After Sanchez they will be extra careful.
This is becoming our equivalent of the scouse cycle that used to get posted.
United aren't performing well.
Sack Manager.
United via media announce £xm available to spend.
United spend said £xm.
United aren't performing well.
Sell players.
United via media announce £xm available to spend.
United spend said £xm.
...
United aren't performing well.
Sack Manager.
United via media announce £xm available to spend.
United spend said £xm.
United aren't performing well.
Sell players.
United via media announce £xm available to spend.
United spend said £xm.
...
Inflation might have pushed the price up, but breaking the world record shouldn't be a prerequisite for signing a class centreback.
Wasnt Alderweireld's 25m clause triggered in January? If so we can get a right winger for 75 mil maybe.... We'll still need a new striker and a rb to compete imo.
Hopefully er buy none, and give it to our new manager to spend in the summer.
The only potential transfers where Woodward has vetoed Mourinho, it seems, are Perisic and Maguire at £44m and £60m each. I'dve done the same thing in Ed's position.
Possibly a press release from the club in response to Mourinho's own utterances.
To be fair, I think both would have performed better than their replacements, Sanchez and Lindelöf.
I don't think that will ever happen. Makes no sense financially - they'd never see a return on that investment.
Another 100 million to play hoofball.
How about instead of backing Mourinho back the club's long term team. This article is most likely garbage, but we should have spent that on a CB in the summer instead of panicking because we've had a poor season.
Were you a banker at J.P. Morgan, too? What is it about J.P. Morgan that produces such brilliant footballing experts?
Yeah I guess. Those two have both been absolute shite so, probably. Thing is though, in Sanchez/Perisic's case we had Martial anyway which makes it even more infuriating.
On which CB? Far as I could tell the ones you would spend that on were not for sale
There are deals to be done that don't necessarily mean buying top players from clubs that don't want to sell. For instance, a straight swap deal like Sanchez for Arnautović would be more realistic. We have plenty of carrots to dangle out there. Just a shame that we don't have anyone to negotiate the deals! I watch most games of a weekend and see teams like Wolves, Leicester and Palace with better defenders than we have! The likes of Willy Boly at Wolves or Wesley Hoedt at Southampton, these are a huge improvements on Smalling, Jones et al. Aaron Wan-Bissaka at Palace makes Valencia and Young look like geriatrics. He's get up the pitch too, down that right hand side.
I think we need to stop with the marquee signings, and build a proper team with decent players in every position (Like Klopp has). We don't need anymore Pogba's or Varane's spitting their dummies out thinking they are bigger than the club. We need a couple of Dennis Irwin's to build a solid foundation, and when you have that, you can start mixing in the superstars.
I think we need to stop with the marquee signings, and build a proper team with decent players in every position (Like Klopp has). We don't need anymore Pogba's or Varane's spitting their dummies out thinking they are bigger than the club. We need a couple of Dennis Irwin's to build a solid foundation, and when you have that, you can start mixing in the superstars.
People saying we should keep money for the new manager. 
Let's ask first : On what basis are everyone thinking the next manager will be the one to get it totally spot on in the market ?
Let's ask first : On what basis are everyone thinking the next manager will be the one to get it totally spot on in the market ?
All the other clubs have specialists for that, we have Woodward the banker for that mate.People saying we should keep money for the new manager.
Let's ask first : On what basis are everyone thinking the next manager will be the one to get it totally spot on in the market ?
It's got nothing to do with the next manager being outstanding in the market. It's just stupid to buy players based on Mourinho's preferences when he's clearly getting the boot by the end of the season at the latest.People saying we should keep money for the new manager.
Let's ask first : On what basis are everyone thinking the next manager will be the one to get it totally spot on in the market ?
Yeah I know, just a wishful thinking. We would rather splash another £100m on mediocre players than invest in other areas like stadium which is well overdue.
So the next question is as follows. If Mourinho isn't demanding this then the only person left making the decision is Woodward. Which means only one thing, we are making this signing for marketing purposes. £100m for Varane is classic Woodward, he has said many times that the financial aspect of signings is what he looks out for.
Another made up story.
You know what just play like a big game of deal or no deal.. might as well.. whatever jose gets he'll say its not enough.
Plus you have to think who wants to play for Jose? If you was 70 mil player would you play in this team. We got beat by Derby not so long ago and juv looked so much better. Also 70% of the fan dont want him here would you take that risk..
Plus you have to think who wants to play for Jose? If you was 70 mil player would you play in this team. We got beat by Derby not so long ago and juv looked so much better. Also 70% of the fan dont want him here would you take that risk..
LVG was a pundit at Barca-Real this weekend, and afterwards the talk drifted a bit to his prior clubs. He said the most disappointing thing about his time at United was that, if you consider Bayern, the first thing it is, is a football club, while the first thing United is, is a commercial enterprise to make money. I don't even think he was spiteful, because he was fired by both. But even if true, I just wonder, if I owned a football club to make money, the best way to make it would be to be as successful as possible. So buying in January for marketing purposes instead of saving for and investing in a successful long term team doesn't sound like good business practice to me. I prefer non-private ownership of football clubs, but in theory, it should not necessarily be less successful, even if they take money, as long as they grow the "business" with their talent to do so.
You’ll find that those are two very different sets of fans.
Well, obviously. You just posted in it.
Well the whole point was they didnt in the summer. Do you remember the summer?
Anyway this is pure guess work from Jackson from what Jose said at the presser. I would bet the house theres nothing in this story at all.
No, I believe teams can only activate it in the last week or so of the summer transfer window. Spurs would ask for £40m+ in January.
Nothing wrong with Woodard's handling of the financial side of the club, but it's obvious that he has some power over the footballing side as well since he has admitted as such himself. If i recall he made it a point that Sanchez' signing saw huge amounts of social media interaction and he was proud of that and saw it as a success.
I would not trade anyone for Woodward as a financial director he is amazing at getting us sponsorship deals. But, I would want an actually football person deciding how the team is built, ideally an accomplished director of football like Andrea Berta or Monchi.
Strewth,another goalscoring forward...Has no one at the club ever heard of Mason Greenwood!
Are you suggesting that the chairman of the club, Ed Woodward, is actively identifying and persuing transfer targets of his own volition, without prior consent from his manager? Something tells me if that was the case, Jose would have walked a long time ago.
No that is not what I suggested at all and that would have been clear by reading what I said. Woodward has shown many times that the financial aspects of transfers are very important to him, which will influence his decision making when going after targets.
If reports are to be believed (I know most reports are bollocks) then Woodward vetoed Mourinho's transfer targets in Alderweireld and Willian due to their cost/age. He is an active participant in our team building if that is the case. I do not want him to have a say on specific targets like that because that is not his expertise, I would like him to simply give a rough budget to a director of football. The director of football would then work with the coach on getting players.
I recall the reports to which you are referring, but I found them extremely far-fetched/hard to believe. Ed is merely the CEO, his chief responsibilities are that of the hiring and firing of staff, negotiating current player contracts and persuing potential transfer targets that his manager has requested. He has every right to veto a target if he deems him too expensive, that's his judgement call to make, but to suggest he is pulling the plug on targets he thinks are too old and/or not good enough (I have seen reports suggesting this) is giving him too much credit.
I don't disagree on the DoF, though. I hope we have an experienced one in place by next summer - preferably before the new manager arrives.
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