The latter point is why this is frustrating. We kind of knew he wouldn't make Leeds but now there is a real danger that he may not even make the 2nd fixture.
Manchester United sign Raphael Varane! (not in time for Leeds)
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Should have just signed Ben White, he could have started tomorrow no problem.
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It is possible to be a little bemused why there has been a hold up that precludes Varane's involvement vs Leeds, whilst simultaneously not requiring a chill pill or not losing one's shit. It is a tad strange that paperwork is still outstanding, as any negotiation or discussion regarding the final details surely oculd have been done while Varane was quarantining. It's not something worth getting too annoyed about, but it is a bit of a shame that we are starting the season without one or perhaps even both of our big summer signings ready to go.
Messi isn’t an EU citizen, in case it’s slipped your notice?
The French COVID entry restrictions has now been eased for certified, fully vaccinated people, regardless of where they come from.
No quarantine required.
He was also a free agent.
No transfer deal to be negotiated or completed.
PSG don’t need the additional income, either, so they probably gave Messi all he wanted in image rights and all the other add-ons.
Messi definitely has dual nationality.
Not ruined but failure to incorporate players in the squad in a timely manner can have an impact on our start. 3 defeats in the first 6 games last season. We need a perfect start to the season to really push for the title and this is not ideal at all. There will be an adjustment period for Varane and you want that to happen during our relatively easy start to the season.
The season's ruined, I tell you. RUINED.
No he’s just lived in Europe for 20 years but has never gained any citizenship. Some people don’t use their brain.
Another one is Leon Bailey, Villa confirmed his signing August 4th -- he isolated, trained yesterday, and is available for selection tomorrow according to Dean Smith.
As long as he comes then I'm okay with the delay. It takes as long as it takes. He will be the second major part of the jigsaw
I'm more worried that we wont get a CDM in before the close of the transfer window.
I'm more worried that we wont get a CDM in before the close of the transfer window.
True.
The rules to turn France back to amber came into play on 8th August for what it’s worth.
No evidence to back it up but I think the issue here is probably image rights. We always have issues with image rights of individuals we get to the club. I remember with Jose, it took a long time to sort out the image rights. We didn't sign Dybala because of an image rights issue. Maybe that's what caused the Sancho announcement to be delayed as well. Perhaps we have a different policy with other clubs pertaining to image rights and maybe that's what slows down the final agreement.
Theory
1. Singing announced subject to personal terms
2. Personal terms agreed in principle subject to medical.
3. Medical can't take place until after isolation.
4. Minor concerns with medical from United's side. United wanted to adjust terms to more appearance based / less guaranteed £££.
5. Varane's team holding firm.
6. Negotiations ongoing.
7. Woodward got a new phone, can't negotiate until Vodafone send him unlocking code.
1. Singing announced subject to personal terms
2. Personal terms agreed in principle subject to medical.
3. Medical can't take place until after isolation.
4. Minor concerns with medical from United's side. United wanted to adjust terms to more appearance based / less guaranteed £££.
5. Varane's team holding firm.
6. Negotiations ongoing.
7. Woodward got a new phone, can't negotiate until Vodafone send him unlocking code.
Not sure what the big deal is. We signed Sancho before him and at best he will be coming off the bench vs Leeds. If Varane would only have been fit enough for the bench, what would even be the point? He wouldn’t have gotten any minutes. Slightly annoying but doesn’t really make a difference in my book since he was never going to start this game in the first place.
This looks likely to fall through I think. Bugger.
Yeah I am convinced Ole is happy to wait it out for his beloved Declan's price to come down but personally feel we should get one this summer but gut feeling is that our business is done UNLESS Camavinga indicates he wants to actually come
No there isn’t
This is a real joke now Messi and Lukaku announced before Varane isolarion cant be the reason or only reason at least just hope Rimano is right and he actually signed last night
Thing is we could have had him do his medical in Spain before he left. We don't that before
Get Villarreal on the phone before Pau plays more extra-time!
Definitely not allowing myself to think this or it will be meltdown time in a big way
As a starter there is! Been out our training for a while. Only trained once or twice with Real.No there isn’t
We have him in limbo
Ole wouldn't mention his name if he's not our player, the fact he didn't say "I can't speak players from another club" means he is already ours but WTF are we waiting for to register him? Both clubs already official announced agreed fees, he's already at Manchester means visa had been granted, and medical were done yesterday right?
Are we waiting to sell first before we register him? Because we already had 25 senior players excluding Varane, Grant and Jones.
Are we waiting to sell first before we register him?
Because we already had 25 senior players excluding Varane, Grant and Jones.Calm down, chaps. Surely we can see off mighty Leeds without Varane.
I don't know they will be motivated after that 6-2 last season and their fans will be back as well
I think it's 50/50 at the moment. Seems agreement isn't there and might not happen. Back to the drawing board? Shame Tuanzebe is now on loan. Perhaps Mengi can do a job or use Mctominay.
Without Varane, Rashford or Cavani, and maybe only a cameo from Sancho.
I'd be a bit concerned about tomorrow, but hopefully being at home will be enough.
Martial tends to look good the first few games of the season before turning sour, so there's that.
We've still got twice the team they do.
On route to the Lindelof thread when he inevitably makes a mistake...
He wasn't playing tomorrow anyway. I don't see why everyone is getting so worked up over an announcement.
I stand corrected on Messi’s nationality.Yes he is
However, France’s COVID entry requirements do not differentiate between other EU countries and non- EU countries.
They’re based on a Green, Amber and Red traffic light system, regardless if you’re entering from another EU state or not.
Are you referring to entering the UK from France?
Messi entered France from Spain. Nothing to do with the UK’s entry status.
Spain is on France’s Amber list, but fully vaccinated people are exempt from the requirements to quarantine or needing tests.
Varane has entered the U.K. from Spain. A completely different scenario.
I Can see us not signing anybody else this season, after Verane that is. While we all feel that a quality CDM is need to move away from the double pivot and be able to play 2 of Pogba Bruno or VDB in more attacking positions, I can't see one coming in this window.
FFS Utd just get this announced and stop giving us heart attacks
I thought you were joking at first...
Exactly. It's more important that we sign a couple of more good players, anyway.
For me too actually. You may change it back whenever you like. I’ll be kind.Indeed
It actually hurts me to look at that F.
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