Moyes looks like a dottery old man in that pic
75 mins and losing is one of the options on Soccer Manager. Maybe he's taking his tactics from the game?The biggest question has to be why he waited so long to make changes? Around 75 minutes was it? And it was clear that we were being completely out-number in midfield which was giving them so much control. I can't understand that at all.
I can remember the last time I saw any team look so poor defensively either. I was going to put the first two penalties down to individual errors, but as it went on Liverpool looked like scoring everytime they went forward. The 3rd pen was a blatant dive, he shouldn't have been sent off for that.
I'm plastic? You just said you want to hear our fans boo and that you would boo yourself. The crowd didn't praise the team, they sang in defiance and it is commendable. I'd rather that than silence or booing. You want to have a word with yourself and wind your neck in, fair weather fan.You are plastic if you think, I would sing praise for a team that does not deserve it. If we put at least an effort and lost 3-0, I would give the players credit. But this performance was nothing short of abysmal. Against Chelsea, United lost 3-1 and I supported the team effort, but today United showed none of that.
Bollocks to that, we only got to the by line once!1 shot on target.........
Will need a big damn coffin then, plenty of nails in it already. He should have changed things much earlier, I get the impression he is afraid of upseting certain players by taking them off even when they are not really playing well.I have been in support Moyes camp but the dithering in his decision making is really worrying. SAF or even lesser good managers would have changed it soon. It is no crime taking RvP and Mata off if they aren't doing anything. If we go out in CL with limp perfromance and lose to City, I think that might be final nail in coffin.
Don't think he did yet.Did he actually say that????????//
No protection..Moyes needs to turn to porn for inspiration. No imagination, no vision, no hope.
Completely nullified then.Bollocks to that, we only got to the by line once!
It's so much more than just this though. I was all for giving Moyes time but right now it's a step forward followed by 10 steps back.I hate being right. Said as I saw the line-ups that we were fecked for the day.
I'd ask for my money back.fecking free tickets and I still got ripped off.
I think he is intimidated by the players, now do we give him chance to rebuild the team? It is a risk, he may improve with players who aren't Fergies Boys and aren't looking down their noses at him. However whoever he brings in of the quality we want and need will have won more than him. He might end up in exactly the same situation, just with different players.That was the best lineup we could have put out, and we had a week to prepare for what was our biggest game of the season. And yet we fecked it up big time. In all honesty, we were so bad they steamrolled us, and were unlucky not to get another goal or two. Tell me, when else will we win?
My biggest worry is, there was no gameplan on display at all:
- Were we planning to keep the ball? Then why those hopeful long balls? Keep it on the ground, and stay on the ball.
- Were we set up to attack? Then why did we not get the ball forward too often, and at least get a respectable number of shots on target? Liverpool's defence isn't world class, FFS, our attack is!
- Were we set up to counter? Then where is the pace required to do that. Why did Welbeck not start?
Throughout the game, I was under the feeling that there was no clarity amongst the player as to whose role was what. Moyes simply put out a team, is all. We had no gameplan, looked disjointed as usual and were just hoping for something to happen whenever we got the ball to Januzaj or RvP.
The next biggest worry was that Dithering Dave dithered again. Biggest game of your managerial career, and you hesitate to pull off a player who's having a bad day because you think his reputation is too big for that. People who think like that should never find themselves managing United. RvP and Mata should have come off in the 50th minute, not the 75th. Players played poorly and without heart, but the manager's responsible for everything else. If he couldn't show any improvement today, then he never will. 5 games won out of 14 this season. Sack Moyes now.
On another note, I am resigned to the fact that unless there are moments of individual brilliance involved, our teamwork will not be good enough to get us a win against fecking Olympiakos. I don't think we will keep a clean sheet for starters, not even with Spider-Man as our keeper.
It will be too big a risk to keep him. Allowing him to spend in the summer will hold the next manager back.I think he is intimidated by the players, now do we give him chance to rebuild the team? It is a risk, he may improve with players who aren't Fergies Boys and aren't looking down their noses at him. However whoever he brings in of the quality we want and need will have won more than him. He might end up in exactly the same situation, just with different players.
Yup. Keeping him for the start of next season basically throws away next season like this one. The sooner we get rid of him the sooner we can go back to being a top team and playing good football.It will be too big a risk to keep him. Allowing him to spend in the summer will hold the next manager back.
mind numbingObligatory Vidic sending off, you couldn't make this shit up
If we wanted to carry on playing the same sort of football as last year we would have hired Phelan to run things.This is the easiest Liverpool win against United since that 4-0 back in 1990. Even in the 1-4 defeat in 2009 we tried to create chances and turn things around. Today we threw in the towel after the second goal. When things don't go our way, we simply give up.
What makes it worse is this wasn't one of Liverpool's best performances this season. The problems have been the same since the season started. OK, we have to bring in some quality signings, but it's frustrating watching us use the same non effective tactics over and over again. Wasn't it Einstein who said that insanity is doing the same thing, over and over again expecting different results?
Totally agree Phil, been out managing my team tonight and was going over the same thoughts the whole game, we drew 3-3 so some consolation my end. Shambolic says it all.You know I remember watching Utd Liverpool games in the 70s and 80s when on occasions they were much better than us but I have never witnessed such a capitulation from us at home.Shambolic.No plan B not much of a plan A Moyes looked lost and didn't know how to change it.Our fans were absolutely superb the players should be ashamed.
Well done sounds a good game, I help run our school football team and there's nothing quite like it, great feeling when you do well.Totally agree Phil, been out managing my team tonight and was going over the same thoughts the whole game, we drew 3-3 so some consolation my end. Shambolic says it all.
This picture says it all ffs. Rodgers even points with more conviction.
What is the 5th? my fixture app is only showing Swansea, Cardiff, Palace and WBA as wins since the beginning of january?It's 5, but what a pathetic statistic.
It can hardly count but the Sunderland game in the cup was technically a win, even though we lost on penalties...What is the 5th? my fixture app is only showing Swansea, Cardiff, Palace and WBA as wins since the beginning of january?
When a loss can be a win.....It can hardly count but the Sunderland game in the cup was technically a win, even though we lost on penalties...
Ah correct. My app was showing that as red as we got knocked outIt can hardly count but the Sunderland game in the cup was technically a win, even though we lost on penalties...