You know I remember watching Utd Liverpool games in the 70s and 80s when on occasions they were much better than us but I have never witnessed such a capitulation from us at home.Shambolic.No plan B not much of a plan A Moyes looked lost and didn't know how to change it.Our fans were absolutely superb the players should be ashamed.
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It's 5, but what a pathetic statistic.
Working the dressing room is an enormous part of being a successful manager. If he isnt able to handle the dressing room at a top club with higher expectations than Everton then its no ones fault but his. Motivating the players is the manager's job. We saw no motivation today in what should have been treated as the biggest game of the season based on occasion and rivalry.
1 shot on target.........
*Sigh* he cant even get his finger upThis picture says it all ffs. Rodgers even points with more conviction.
It's everybody's fault. The likes of Carrick, Vidic, Ferdinand, Valencia, RVP and Evra deserve no excuses for their performances this year. Moyes' culpability lies in his absolute inability to do anything about such performances, along with his dodgy tactics and substitutions.
Then if it doesn't work, they will have to take the criticism as well.
Atleast we have Olympiacos to look forward to on Wednesday. Just the ticket to help us get over this loss...
Young & Valencia will be fresh as daisies for that one!
Yeah fecking right i meant any of that!
Young & Valencia will be fresh as daisies for that one!
Yeah fecking right i meant any of that!
Just hearing the fans there give their everything makes it even worse. I believe for many of us, Manchester United represents something more than just football itself. This is just utterly depressing.
I have been in support Moyes camp but the dithering in his decision making is really worrying. SAF or even lesser good managers would have changed it soon. It is no crime taking RvP and Mata off if they aren't doing anything. If we go out in CL with limp perfromance and lose to City, I think that might be final nail in coffin.
Jesus Christ, feck off Stevie you smug wanker.
I think the main problem is that there's no Plan A.
I don't think either of them will mind that. Much easier when you're sat upstairs and you've already made your legacy.
You type in jest, but you're right. No chance could beat them anyway.
Agreed. Those two both deserve their share of the blame in this fiasco.
He's another Dave Sexton, nice guy, but not the personality for this club.
I think their comes a point where they will be overruled.
Moyes looks out of his depth. Why was our first sub at 75 mins? he is prehistoric.
Photo post of the season!This picture says it all ffs. Rodgers even points with more conviction.
The purpose is that it shows the fans who paid to watch United play expected much better. Since you seeem to be the judge in deciding when to boo or not, when do you think It is right to boo on a topic that you deem as not subjective.
I hope so, if things continue on like this.
Yes, i agree there. It was pretty obvious we needed something changing at half time.
I wonder how long it will take some people to notice that it is not about playing Kagawa or not, RVP or not, Mata or Januzaj....It's all the same. Every lineup has produced roughly the same performances. The team has no identity. The players go out there and try to improvise. We don't know whether we should try to counter, keep possession, lump it forward, or run to the byline and cross. Each player seems to be doing his own thing and failing at it.
Something bigger than a lineup or a player who isn't playing well is obviously at play.
Something bigger than a lineup or a player who isn't playing well is obviously at play.
havent the heart to read through the whole thread but it was shocking the malaise that is running through the team. There was no spark from anyone. The amount of time each and every player wanted on the ball was ridiculous. I have been 100% behind moyes and not once have I thought he would go but I am starting to believe that if this continues he will not see past the summer.
Each one of the players need a kick in the bollox to cop themselves on. Really the only one who is blameless today is Degea and in fairness you could say that practically for the whole season.
Each one of the players need a kick in the bollox to cop themselves on. Really the only one who is blameless today is Degea and in fairness you could say that practically for the whole season.
Give Fergie time, he'll come to his senses. Today he looked shell shocked. Imagine what'll happen if we lose to City and Olympiacos. He'll quickly admit to being wrong.
They have to take massive responsibility as it is now. Recommending this clown and subsequently hiring him could/will set us back years in us returning to near the top of the league. Just think where we could be right now if we had Mourinho or even a tactically adept manager.
I'm going out for lunch with two nice girls tomorrow.
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I hate losing to the dippers but, in the scheme of things, this doesn't matter. Their whole season used to revolve around beating us. We won loads and they won very little. They are currently resurgent - so? We couldn't dominate for ever. Now, we have to work at it and put up with the rebuilding period that will be necessary - so? Let's just suck it up and look to the future which hasn't just disppeared. Moyes' start may have been underwhelming but he hasn't turned into a moron overnight. And Brenton hasn't turned into a genius - efficient and well drilled but not world-beating yet. In their future, maybe, but not yet. They are currently greater than the sum of their parts while we are less. Looking at the current funding/organisation/management of the respective clubs, I can't see either of those situations lasting. It will take work and adjustment but we'll get there. I don't know if that will be under Moyes but I'd still rather give him the chance to buy with backing and see what can be achieved.
Fukk sake tv commentators. Liverpool weren't that great today. Truth is, we were dreadful.
Never.
Pix, or it didn't happen.
Some of the line ups have been great, have given us hope of some good play. It is just not happening. These players do not trust the manager and that is a big thing.
okie dokie
I have the greatest admiration for our match-going support. I've never had the privilege of seeing United live (well I saw them at an exhibition in Chicago once,) but the fact that you guys keep going strong in the face of such disaster is truly admirable.
Two weeks away, and God that one is going to be ugly.
Not a happy bunny is he? That is a thoughtful face. I think he is regretting his decision.
Moyes: "Well, I thought we played well. Had the majority of possession. The first goal was a bit unlucky. But, all we have to do is try to win the next game and take it from there."
He didnt really say that, did he?
Did he actually say that????????//
FFS. I'm crying while laughing here.This picture says it all ffs. Rodgers even points with more conviction.
Very good, WR.Has he said anything yet?
Typical performance you have come to expect from us. Start off with some conviction but somehow lose a scrappy goal due to luck/individual error. Then you can see us continually panic in defence and become increasingly frustrated in attack. Just unable to put any pressure on the opponent's defence and hence inviting them to attack us without too much worry (or vice versa).
Not for the first time this year we have lost the plot. This is a lost season and it hurts to see us fall so far. You know that the talent in personnel is there. For some reason however, we just aren't playing as a team and we have become so error prone all over the pitch.
I agree its partly Moyes's fault but the players need to look at themselves too. Its unlikely Moyes will be fired and one can only hope we will sell the players who don't want to be here and bring in ones that will get with the program.
Not for the first time this year we have lost the plot. This is a lost season and it hurts to see us fall so far. You know that the talent in personnel is there. For some reason however, we just aren't playing as a team and we have become so error prone all over the pitch.
I agree its partly Moyes's fault but the players need to look at themselves too. Its unlikely Moyes will be fired and one can only hope we will sell the players who don't want to be here and bring in ones that will get with the program.
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