I also expect a United forward to bury that.Just depends how you define sitters.
To me, Rashford should bury that chance. He had almost the entire left side of the goal to bury it.
The replay from his back showed it all.
I also expect a United forward to bury that.Just depends how you define sitters.
To me, Rashford should bury that chance. He had almost the entire left side of the goal to bury it.
The replay from his back showed it all.
And people think he's nowhere near Mbabpe?
If he was foreign the Caf would rave about him. What a talent. Destroyed Carvajal. Just needs to take his chances.
Oh the sea serpent returns
Sure but you've also got to make sure your expectations are in line with his age and experience. There's no point expecting seasoned performances from a 19/20 year old.Against Real Madrid that's a sitter. You get very few chances and normally they don't come clearer than that.
I've not written him off but we don't have space for passengers this season and he should be judged on contribution and not age or future potential.
My expectations do not factor in his age. Thats my point.Sure but you've also got to make sure your expectations are in line with his age and experience. There's no point expecting seasoned performances from a 19/20 year old.
Just for some perspective...Beckham was on loan at Preston at Rashford's age. An unknown at that stage.
Frankly that's ridiculous. Why would you expect mature, top level contributions from a 19 year old?My expectations do not factor in his age. Thats my point.
I agree Rashford should be on loan and not in our starting XI.
Pls read my post again.
So you think we should sacrifice points this season so Rashford gets a proper education?Frankly that's ridiculous. Why would you expect mature, top level contributions from a 19 year old?
At any stage of a player's career expectations are partly based on the guys age.
For more perspective..at 19/20 Keane had just left Cobh Ramblers, Scholes wasn't first choice. These are legends of the club. Thankfully SAF did take age into consideration and gave young players time.
I'm sure there's enough quality in this squad to get top four and give Rashford enough game time to evolve.So you think we should sacrifice points this season so Rashford gets a proper education?
Pls don't moan when we finish outside top 4 then.
Well sqaud has not changed up front (Lukaku=Ibra) and we fell way short last season. Not sure why I'd expect that to dramatically change.I'm sure there's enough quality in this squad to get top four and give Rashford enough game time to evolve.
You're creating an either/or situation that doesn't exist.
What's your alternative? Have a squad that only contains players at the top of their game?
But dropping Rashford will get us into the top four?Well sqaud has not changed up front (Lukaku=Ibra) and we fell way short last season. Not sure why I'd expect that to dramatically change.
I'd rather we had a proven front 4 like we always had under SAF. At least til we win the league. We can have young players after that.
I'm sure we'll revist these points as the season progressesBut dropping Rashford will get us into the top four?
SAF's policy was the exact opposite of yours. He always had young players in and around the team, having the patience to evolve them. Put up with their immaturity in the short term.
I didn't see why he even went right. Was the only place not to put the shot.I think he scores if its on the other side and its his right foot
ThisI also expect a United forward to bury that.
I think that when we play 4-3-3, which will be most of the time, Rashford and Mata start the season as our first choice wingers ahead of Martial, Mkhitaryan and Lingard, with Mata maybe benched in some tougher games for a pacier option since Mourinho will want to play on the break much of the time anyways.Fantastic when he came on. Made a big difference down that left, even with no left back to help him out. Only disappointment was that he didn't finish his chance.
Should definitely start vs West Ham on Sunday.
I guess the whole point is, he isn't on loan. He played 32 times for us in the league last season as a forward/winger and scored 5 goals. That shouldn't be looked at as being the standard for being considered a starter for a team hoping to challenge for the title when you consider you need 80 goals + to do so. He's quick, he has talent and confidence yes and should 100% be a consideration in our future plans. But honestly the fact he and Martial are currently the only 2 players capable of pretty much providing any pace or width means he is having to be shoehorned into playing a role in the squad he isn't at the level to fulfil yet.Frankly that's ridiculous. Why would you expect mature, top level contributions from a 19 year old?
At any stage of a player's career expectations are partly based on the guys age.
For more perspective..at 19/20 Keane had just left Cobh Ramblers, Scholes wasn't first choice. These are legends of the club. Thankfully SAF did take age into consideration and gave young players time.
It seems like you're suggesting Rashford might be the reason why we could potentially fall short this season.. when it was he who scored the decisive goal in the EL semi-final, who was instrumental in our best league win over the course of the season against Chelsea, and who was our single best attacking player outside of Ibra. Mkhi, Martial, Lingard, Rooney and to a lesser extent Mata all proved to be less than reliable last season, whether it be through injury or just not showing up, so it seems odd you'd pick out Rashford as one that might provide some problems given all the evidence presented to you suggests the complete opposite.I'm sure we'll revist these points as the season progresses
The problem is he never scores those chances. He needs to start being more clinical, as soon as he picked that ball up and was one on one I knew he was going to miss it.If he had scored with that chance everybody would be singing his praises. It's frustrating that he didn't bury that but the totality of his performance was positive considering his age.
Because when one on one, Rashford can only finish in the bottom right or left corner. He cannot improvise his finish. Based on what he has shown till now though.I didn't see why he even went right. Was the only place not to put the shot.
If we do not expect a mature performance from Rashford then it is also fair for him to get less playing time if we are chasing top honours.Frankly that's ridiculous. Why would you expect mature, top level contributions from a 19 year old?
At any stage of a player's career expectations are partly based on the guys age.
For more perspective..at 19/20 Keane had just left Cobh Ramblers, Scholes wasn't first choice. These are legends of the club. Thankfully SAF did take age into consideration and gave young players time.
Not true.Good cameo but he really needed to take that chance. That's the difference between winning and losing.
Madrid had 3 chances and scored twice. We have 3 chances and scored once.
I don't get why he didn't control it with his right foot then curl it in? Instead he let it run across him, navas called his bluff and showed him the near post, there was so much room to slot it in!
He missed as close to an open chance as you can get, with Navas positioned poorly. He made a couple of other poor decisions as well and was the most frustrating for me.Thought he played fairly well today. Was a massive nuisance to them after coming on and nearly scored.
I agree with that, good post.I guess the whole point is, he isn't on loan. He played 32 times for us in the league last season as a forward/winger and scored 5 goals. That shouldn't be looked at as being the standard for being considered a starter for a team hoping to challenge for the title when you consider you need 80 goals + to do so. He's quick, he has talent and confidence yes and should 100% be a consideration in our future plans. But honestly the fact he and Martial are currently the only 2 players capable of pretty much providing any pace or width means he is having to be shoehorned into playing a role in the squad he isn't at the level to fulfil yet.
How can we? He's 19. I've mentioned a few absolute legends of the club who weren't capable of mature performances at 19 so why would anybody expect it of Rashford?If we do not expect a mature performance from Rashford then it is also fair for him to get less playing time if we are chasing top honours.
If fans keep griping about wanting to win the major trophies but would take less mature, non-top level performance from a United forward; isn't that accepting mediocrity/lower standards as we keep hearing about in the Fellaini and Lingard threads?