adexkola
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Great prospect. Going through a rough patch but he'll be the better for it. On and upwards.
Yup but that's what player performance threads are for. It's hardly a complicated concept. Sheesh.I think if you're Mourinho you're fuming at the whole team.
His fav position ? Because playing wide forward will prevent him from finishing such a terrible misses.The same thing was said about Paulinho at Spurs. Then he was shipped to China, but now plays for Barcelona at his fav position and delivers.
And that is about a senior player. Rashford is youngster still, of course his decision-making, quality of play etc will suffer if he is constantly plays in a position he is not happy with.
I don't care about the criticism, every player deserves that. I was talking about peopleAre you his agent? Im still a fan of his in general but i think the criticism he's getting at the moment is perfectly justified.
He's had 2 absolute stinkers in the last 4 days. Both games where he wasted multiple clear cut chances to score himself or assist a team mate, which would of put us in a great position to win both matches. Instead he's managed to butcher every single one of these chances, aswel as providing bristol with the oppurtunity to score there winner with a bollocks,half arsed flick.
He's been absolute shite, ofcourse people are going to use his thread to have a moan about him and it certainly isnt unfair to do so.
It seems to some it is.Yup but that's what player performance threads are for. It's hardly a complicated concept. Sheesh.
Yes my fault. I just felt there was a large sentiment in the thread yesterday blaming Rashford for the draw and took it into that context.Yup but that's what player performance threads are for. It's hardly a complicated concept. Sheesh.
I see on Twitter that sentiment. It appears a lot of people are blaming Rashford in particular.Yes my fault. I just felt there was a large sentiment in the thread yesterday blaming Rashford for the draw and took into that context.
Huh? Are you saying he has an oversized ego?Yesterday was the first time he was shamed, his 100th appearance. His built up personality (clearly visible) must have taken a beating. Hope he puts his head down and works back to form.
Yes i do. Not totally out of place for a kid that was placed 3rd best in the world.Huh? Are you saying he has an oversized ego?
Wtf 3rd best in the world?Yes i do. Not totally out of place for a kid that was placed 3rd best in the world.
He was i guess, after Mbappe and O. Demele by Fifa under 20 category or something.Wtf 3rd best in the world?
Dont agree with the first part. Watching Ronaldo and Messi yesterday and you could see why one team lost and the other won. Yes, sometimes you need an ego and be confident in your ability but dont be a selfish fool more often than not. Thats what Rashford has been doing recently and what Ronaldo did in yesterdays Classico. Frustrating to watch and harmful to the team.Don't care about the selfishness or the ego. He should have one, an immense one if he is to be a Manchester United forward.
But yesterday was not about ego, it was about playing up to the occasion and he failed systematically. Every decision was the wrong one. You rarely see something like that. Last time I vividly remember a group of players going through an agonizing moment like that was the infamous 4-4 against Everton.
Sane is a very selfish player as well. Much more so than Rashford.Dont agree with the first part. Watching Ronaldo and Messi yesterday and you could see why one team lost and the other won. Yes, sometimes you need an ego and be confident in your ability but dont be a selfish fool more often than not. Thats what Rashford has been doing recently and what Ronaldo did in yesterdays Classico. Frustrating to watch and harmful to the team.
The only way someone gets better at anything is by doing. On the other hand abilities do get "dull" if they are not used properly.His fav position ? Because playing wide forward will prevent him from finishing such a terrible misses.
And he has to prove he deserves to get a game as a striker over someone as Lukaku by finishing such terrible chances.The only way someone gets better at anything is by doing. On the other hand abilities do get "dull" if they are not used properly.
He is coach that fails to develop his players. As of now.How can you blame this on Mourinho?!
He is 20. There is not a single football player on Earth who's reached his full potential a 20.How do you know that Rashford isn't already nearing his full potential.
He did exactly same thing. Exactly. Two-three years ago everyone was saying how wasteful he is, how he does not make right decisions etc.Sterling may just be a better player.
Well to be fair in the game against City, Rashford did finish his chance, while Lukaku did not.By no means are we allowed any luxury to play him there with such finishing, especially with Lukaku there.
To start him every game no matter what and to never start him there are not the only two options exactly. There are many thing Jose could have tried. Like playing sometimes with two CFs, or tweaking the position, so that even though it's on the side, it's a proper attacking position, not a left midfield one. Or starting him in some games, or moving him there during the game. And so on. I've already pointed out that Lukaku had a terrible run in front of goal some time ago. And? Jose did not gave any chances to Rashford (or Martial) as a CF during that time. None at all. That hardly seems fair and could have been very demoralizing.And he has to prove he deserves to get a game as a striker over someone as Lukaku by finishing such terrible chances.
Rashford had shown zero connection with Lukaku to prove they should play together. On the contrary Martial has always been linking well with Lukaku when they played together either being a winger or a 2 strikers as against Cska (away), Watford and Arsenal.Well to be fair in the game against City, Rashford did finish his chance, while Lukaku did not.
Also important to note that Lukaku spent like 7-8 games without a single goal and missing lots of chances while retaining the support of Jose and starting spot.
To start him every game no matter what and to never start him there are not the only two options exactly. There are many thing Jose could have tried. Like playing sometimes with two CFs, or tweaking the position, so that even though it's on the side, it's a proper attacking position, not a left midfield one. Or starting him in some games, or moving him there during the game. And so on. I've already pointed out that Lukaku had a terrible run in front of goal some time ago. And? Jose did not gave any chances to Rashford (or Martial) as a CF during that time. None at all. That hardly seems fair and could have been very demoralizing.
In the end it's about winning. It's a team sport so when you ignore an easy option to score it just makes you a bad player no matter how much talent you have. It's one thing to take it on yourself rather than do a layoff and another to ignore a wide open player in a goalscoring position.Don't care about the selfishness or the ego. He should have one, an immense one if he is to be a Manchester United forward.
But yesterday was not about ego, it was about playing up to the occasion and he failed systematically. Every decision was the wrong one. You rarely see something like that. Last time I vividly remember a group of players going through an agonizing moment like that was the infamous 4-4 against Everton.
No, academy is a bonus. The guy clearly has a lot of talent, not many players can perform on the level he has shown in the last two years at a top club, at that age.Sorry but the only thing that anyone can want Rashford to become our striker is because he's from our academy.
He never actually had a proper chance to do so.Rashford had shown zero connection with Lukaku to prove they should play together.
10 goals in 10 games, then no goals in 8 or 9 is not exactly "consistent". Rashford is way young, it's crazy to ask him to score consistently. And you missing the point. The fact is, that learning via playing is absolute necessity for any player to progress. No player at 20 would even show half of his talent. Messi was not scoring 40-50 goals a season.Rashford hasn't shown anything to prove he can lead the line as effectively and score consistently
I don't think I said he's talentless. I said he's as hell not ready to lead the line or be the striker here. That selfishness and terrible decision making he has been shown lately has nothing to do with his position. It has nothing to do with anything except himself, and if he can't improve this decision making and finishing then no chance we can afford him a chance to lead the line for us as a striker, because he didn't show he can be trusted here at all.No, academy is a bonus. The guy clearly has a lot of talent, not many players can perform on the level he has shown in the last two years at a top club, at that age.
He never actually had a proper chance to do so.
10 goals in 10 games, then no goals in 8 or 9 is not exactly "consistent". Rashford is way young, it's crazy to ask him to score consistently. And you missing the point. The fact is, that learning via playing is absolute necessity for any player to progress. No player at 20 would even show half of his talent. Messi was not scoring 40-50 goals a season.
Good managers find the way to develop players. It is their job.
You think he doesn't have an ego?Huh? Are you saying he has an oversized ego?
I mean, there's no need to blame him for anything but people are rightly pointing out that he's been poor lately.Yes my fault. I just felt there was a large sentiment in the thread yesterday blaming Rashford for the draw and took it into that context.
It's fair enough he gets criticism. Blaming him for everything is unfair. It used to happen to Lingard and Mata a lot as well.I mean, there's no need to blame him for anything but people are rightly pointing out that he's been poor lately.
Everyone has an ego. I haven't noticed Rashford being too big for his boots. He's not some Januzaj kid who tries impossible shots all the time.You think he doesn't have an ego?
By definition, if you are one of the best at doing something, you will get a big ego. This is normal and is absolutely expected.
What needs to happen is that his ego needs to be kept in check and perhaps Jose needs to say something to him in private or completely remove him from the match day squad (not easy to do during the xmas period, due to the number of games).
I do think there's something to be said about his approach to the game since Martial has pushed him to the bench more often recently than before. He does seem to have a bit of tunnel-vision in trying to score and become decisive. It's understandable, he's trying to get noticed and get his spot back but as others have mentioned, it's actually been counter-productive as he is seen now as playing more 'selfish' without the end-product and at the detriment of his teammates.Everyone has an ego. I haven't noticed Rashford being too big for his boots. He's not some Januzaj kid who tries impossible shots all the time.
This. His attitude the past couple months has stunk and its coincided with a poor run of form. He sulks and gives away needless fks everytime he losses the ball.It's his sulky and overconfident persona that irritates me, it's something he didn't have before he was a guaranteed starter for us. Seems to correlate with his lack of focus and intensity on the pitch.
Agreed but Rashford is younger and he's had an entire season of having people blow smoke up his arse.. most young men of that age are going to get an ego in that situation and find the come down from that perch very difficult to bounce back from especially right away.Can't believe people are pinning this on Mourinho, he's playing for himself as simple as that. It's nothing to do with not playing in his 'favorite' position, as a winger your job is to set your team-mate up and if the opportunity presents itself you score yourself. He did neither yesterday and that's why he's getting criticism.
Reality is Rashford hasn't responded well playing 2nd fiddle to Martial, in his head he believes he's good enough to start most games and his attitude on the pitch reflects that. Rewind the clock back to August, Martial was literally getting 10 mins to stake his claim, but in those 10 mins he was making correct decisions on counter-attack from which we scored a lot of goals. Rashford is doing the polar opposite, he's ignoring runs or spaces in front of him and goes for the hollywood option more often than not.
I see on Twitter that sentiment. It appears a lot of people are blaming Rashford in particular.
Yeah I know he messed up a couple of counter attacks. But so did Pogba and Matic and Mkhitaryan.
In any case it was our pathetic camping in the box to defend while letting Albrighton swing in his crosses.
This is on the team including Jose. Only person who doesn't get any flack for this is Lukaku.