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Andersons Dietician

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Is it me or has he not had quite a few things like this release where he has had reinforce his commitment to United and defend himself.

Because surely if you have to keep dropping these pr protection pieces maybe you actually need to look at yourself and ask the questions.

He has never really evolved as a footballer, and if anything he probably has lost some of the things that made him look like he could be something when he was young. I think back to his goal against Arsenal when he first got in the first team. Think it was a header and his movement in the box was fantastic for that. He’s never really developed that.

Now just seems to play with no joy at all.
 

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Just a load of waffle really about how his family made sacrifices to allow him to get to the first-team. I don't doubt that at all, but there's probably been hundreds of families over the years who have also been struggling, who have made similar sacrifices.

We may be interested in this background one day if he became a United player worth remembering, but all United fans care about is now. Why aren't you performing? Why aren't you trying harder to help out the team? I simply think it comes down to Rashford being nothing more than a mediocre player.

The guy hasn't even had the decency to apologise to United fans about the whole incident leading to missing the Newport game. I think fans have the right to question him when he pulls stunts like this and doesn't even address it later, on or off the pitch.

My respect for Rashford has just taken another negative hit.
 

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I get bits of it, like how an introverted person’s body language could be misinterpreted as not caring for example, but he could still do things like track back.
 

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I find it very hard to dislike him. Guy is United as United gets.

Yes, he has been inconsistent, and has been out of form for a minute. I don’t have an issue with him behind benched or ever sold, I just can’t understand the deeply rooted dislike some seem to have for a guy that’s United through and through.
What do you define as Utd through and through? Just by virtue of being born in Manchester and grew up in the academy?

Past players like Park and Evra were neither and nobody ever questioned their commitment. Hell, in this current team Bruno, Dalot are polarizing players and the same criticisms aren’t levied at them, even Antony despite the universal acknowledgment of his failure can never be faulted for effort, so question needs to be asked, why does a ‘Utd through and through’ lad give so little effort for his boyhood club on the pitch? Our past players under Fergie always stressed the importance of effort in training and in matches, you have to earn the right to play football by competing physically.
 

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I can take any criticism. I can take any headline. From podcasts, social media and the papers. I can take it.
No ,you clearly cannot and have history for speaking out on it.

Half of that piece is fluff about growing up, so what?
 

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What on earth is this.

Sounds to me like he's saying "no I really do care about united, don't listen to anyone else"

I'd rather a player who was a mercenary but professional while under contract, giving maximum effort than one who's happy to stay at the club all his career and put in half the effort.
 

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Just the latest round of PR bollocks from Marcus.

Sorry but I can’t be arsed to read/watch another statement from a player currently failing at the club.

But I’m sure it was money well spent by Rashy, whatever makes him feel better.
 

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What on earth is this.

Sounds to me like he's saying "no I really do care about united, don't listen to anyone else"

I'd rather a player who was a mercenary but professional while under contract, giving maximum effort than one who's happy to stay at the club all his career and put in half the effort.
Also, "don't trust your eyes"..."I totally contest headers and don't just fake jump!"
 

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I see the usual pair in here defending him still even after reading that load of PR twaddle.
 
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Thread doesn’t even read like a Manchester United forum, I mean do you guys think this is normal:
Can't believe a United fan doesn't like players who walk through games bottling every 50/50, doesn't even bother pretending to contest aerial balls anymore, sells out his teammates by refusing to press, spent the night after we got dicked by City in a club until 3AM when we had training at 8AM and chose to go on the piss in Belfast with full knowledge that he'd miss training with a game the next day.

That's only this season. I could go on.

Even after all this he could still very quickly get back in a lot of people's good books by simply knucking down, working hard, showing that he cares with his effort level on the pitch. But nah...of course not. Better to come out with a highly polished puff piece - no doubt run through 4 different comms specialists - victimising himself and talking about how much he loves the club instead of showing it with his actions.
 
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"But if you ever question my commitment to Man United, that’s when I have to speak up" - Marcus Rashford

:lol::lol::lol:

The player who never tracks back and puts on a half arsed press thinks we are questioning his commitment!
He’s all talk.
 

Adisa

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I find it very hard to dislike him. Guy is United as United gets.

Yes, he has been inconsistent, and has been out of form for a minute. I don’t have an issue with him behind benched or ever sold, I just can’t understand the deeply rooted dislike some seem to have for a guy that’s United through and through.
United through and through that walks around the pitch.
 

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I find it very hard to dislike him. Guy is United as United gets.

Yes, he has been inconsistent, and has been out of form for a minute. I don’t have an issue with him behind benched or ever sold, I just can’t understand the deeply rooted dislike some seem to have for a guy that’s United through and through.
Gary Neville and Paul Scholes are as United as United gets. Even players like O'Shea or Brown exemplified far more of what United were about than this man child and his PR army.
 

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Gary Neville and Paul Scholes are as United as United gets. Even players like O'Shea or Brown exemplified far more of what United were about than this man child and his PR army.
funny you mention Wes, i recall an interview with him last year and he casually mentioned he had to get the bus to training as a young PROFESSIONAL first team player. Rashford here has the little violin out he had to do the same as a kid
 

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This comes across a bit passive aggressive and as someone who grew up near Rashford in a single parent family i find this all quite patronising, there's some contradiction in his words, like most I've only critised him as a footballer, if he wants to avoid personal criticism he needs to stop paying people to promote his personality and direct the narrative away from the pitch and towards his personal life, not sure what the end game is here.
 

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He has been my favourite current United player for a long time but even I find it hard to fully support him with his lack of effort on the pitch. He may say it’s got nothing to do with a lack of commitment to the club. I’m in no position to question that but it doesn’t really matter when he objectively doesn’t apply himself nowhere near enough on the pitch.

If he’s fully committed but still unable to put in maximum effort, he needs professional help to fix his mentality. I’m rooting for him to get back to his best but he needs to take some responsibility for his dreadful form.
 

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I don't give a sh1t what he has to say in some PR piece, so I don't intend on reading it.

But I am interested if anyone has some accurate stats for this season regarding his work rate? It seems to me that for the last month or two he has been putting in far more effort. Obviously when he's played up front he finds it really difficult and often doesn't seem to know what to do. But I can't hold that against him as he's not a centre forward.

The Luton game for example, the criticism he got for that short clip showing him not pressing near the end was unfair after the game he'd had, where it seemed like he'd worked pretty hard. But the eye test doesn't always give the full picture, so some accurate stats would be appreciated.
 

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He's one of the clear reasons why the press doesn't work at United. Positions fairly well but then never puts pressure so people can just play out on his side. I also think it's a bad look on him and the club to post this piece. It says absolutely nothing but makes him look all talk and no action. He called in sick for a game because of going out, but we are not allowed to call him out on his lack of effort or commitment?
 

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He's one of the clear reasons why the press doesn't work at United. Positions fairly well but then never puts pressure so people can just play out on his side. I also think it's a bad look on him and the club to post this piece. It says absolutely nothing but makes him look all talk and no action. He called in sick for a game because of going out, but we are not allowed to call him out on his lack of effort or commitment?
i would be shocked if the club gave this the OK. if so it would have been the clubs channel, this looks to be all about his brand
 

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Good job PR team. Now back to the derby.

Fans criticize him because he has been shit on the pitch, not because he drives fancy cars or is partying. Do it on the pitch week in week out and roam around wearing gold chains head to toe in your private time, if you like. Nobody cares.
 

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That PR piece has undoubtedly been sitting in a can for a while, only to see the light of day when an esteemed England ex-footballer bluntly went in on him, on arguably the biggest platform in the land.

I don’t buy it. We all know him and his people love to use that PR. Do your talking on the pitch.

No ,you clearly cannot and have history for speaking out on it.

Half of that piece is fluff about growing up, so what?
Yeah this is the guy that did that ‘talking too much’ hand gesture on his last goal. Clearly it bothers him.
 

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Hell, in this current team Bruno, Dalot are polarizing players and the same criticisms aren’t levied at them, even Antony despite the universal acknowledgment of his failure can never be faulted for effort, so question needs to be asked, why does a ‘Utd through and through’ lad give so little effort for his boyhood club on the pitch? Our past players under Fergie always stressed the importance of effort in training and in matches, you have to earn the right to play football by competing physically.
Players have different styles and instructions. Similar stuff about running and effort used to be said about Berbatov. I get that people like a good badge thumping cardio specialist - especially so when the club’s fortunes have been as low as United’s recently and there’s nothing else to look forward to - but not all players play the game like that. Again, I did say that he’s been inconsistent and have no issues with him being dropped or sold even, I don’t think he’s been good enough, but the vitriol for Rashford is not, imo, merited. I mean, people are calling him “a dickhead one of the worst we’ve ever had” in this thread.

This is a player that played through injuries for Ole and damn near ruined himself doing so
 

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i would be shocked if the club gave this the OK. if so it would have been the clubs channel, this looks to be all about his brand
I Agree, but it takes the debate away from the team and the derby, so it looks bad on United as well.. It is typical that players like Rashford seem to care more about how they look then how they make the team/club looks.
 

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Found this part interesting. We want to be back in the champions league. Not winning titles and making history, we're the new Arsenal lads.


Weird timing to release this statement because on Sunday night after our annual thrashing at the Etihad and the inevitable Rashford stinker, he's going to look like quite the clown.
 

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I wonder if this is why he plays so often?

So Erik, why do you keep selecting Marcus when he's clearly terrible?

Oh, well his PR team said he would be amazing in the next game and prove his doubters wrong, and I don't want to be one of the doubters getting humiliated y'know?
 

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Players have different styles and instructions. Similar stuff about running and effort used to be said about Berbatov. I get that people like a good badge thumping cardio specialist - especially so when the club’s fortunes have been as low as United’s recently and there’s nothing else to look forward to - but not all players play the game like that. Again, I did say that he’s been inconsistent and have no issues with him being dropped or sold even, but the vitriol for Rashford is not, imo, merited. I mean, people are calling him “a dickhead one of the worst we’ve ever had” in this thread.

This is a player that played through injuries for Ole and damn near ruined himself doing so
This isn’t a case of style being deceiving, his off the ball metrics are bottom 10% of players in his position in all of Europe, consistently so, even in his productive seasons. The personal insults are indeed unnecessary but let’s not pretend it’s widespread or representative, most of the criticisms are about his effort level, which is quantifiable through both the naked eye (not contesting headers, not pressing, shying out of challenges) and stats.
 

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Just change the narrative on the pitch, in your play.

It's a lot better than this article.
 

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I’m going to try this approach in the event I somehow hugely underperform in my employment role:

’So Steve, are you able to provide some background on why you‘ve not even come close to your key metric targets this year?’

’Well, my colleagues think I shirk responsibility and turn out low quality work. They don’t know what I’ve been through though. When I was a kid, my parents didn’t have that much money and we only had one family car, but that car meant everything to us and I think it helped shape me into what I’ve become today. We called it Vroom Vroom because that’s what it did and it was family to us, and my dad told me ‘Steve, when old Vroom goes, remember that family lives forever in your heart’. Those words still ring in my head to this day, you know what I mean?’