I take the points about the bench and the tactical element to not starting Martial and Rashford together, even though I think they'd be fine operating in tandem from either side.But Mourinho doesn't, not only because the squad would lose the ability to control possession, but mainly because we'd be out of bench options to change the game attackingly. No one would be afraid if we subbed Lingard or Mata in, would they? Come Ibrahimović, that's another matter completely.
Maybe I could, if that were the discussion and I could be bothered to. And what is 'a few isolated chances'? Is he supposed to create two at a time? Martial creates a lot of chances, through creative passing, which is why he's considered a creative passer. If you actually read my post, you will see it has no bearing at all on how many chances Rashford may or may not create.And you couldn't think of a few isolated occurrences for Rashford too? If creating a few chances is all it takes to be considered a creative passer then just about every attacker is.
Well you literally said they had different qualities before going on to mention creative passing. I'm not sure how that has no bearing on how creative Rashford's passing is. There isn't an attacker in the world who doesn't create some chances so on the criteria provided it's a redundant comment.Maybe I could, if that were the discussion and I could be bothered to. And what is 'a few isolated chances'? Is he supposed to create two at a time? Martial creates a lot of chances, through creative passing, which is why he's considered a creative passer. If you actually read my post, you will see it has no bearing at all on how many chances Rashford may or may not create.
I was comparing Martial to Mata when referencing his passing. 'Literally', too.Well you literally said they had different qualities before going on to mention creative passing. I'm not sure how that has no bearing on how creative Rashford's passing is. There isn't an attacker in the world who doesn't create some chances so on the criteria provided it's a redundant comment.
Who considers Martial a creative passer? When people talk of his qualities it's never one I hear mentioned.
I think Martial is a much better footballer than Rashford. He has a much higher ceiling as well. Martial can become world class but it's highly unlikely that Rashford will.
I don't agree that Mata is more decisive than Martial. Martial is a better goal scorer, and this Mata final pass is a bit overrated in my opinion, perhaps as he's a short, Spanish 10, who should be great at playing killer passes. Personally, I've not noticed he's THAT special at it.To those who question why Mata is superior choice at the right side.
Mata's off the ball movement is superior. Plus at the moment he seems more clinical than Martial. Mata's eye for that final ball and finishing is better, hence he is the better option.
There is absolutely no rivalry between the two and nor is there a binary choice imo. We can use both of them.One of the highlights of this 2017 / 2018 season has been the intriguing battle between Marcus Rashford and Anthony Martial.
In playing time terms, they have both been given their chances and we have seen what they can do this season.
I'll cut through the chase: who is or who has been better, Marcus or Anthony?
Some people in Martial performance thread have told me that Martial's creative passing is same as Mkhi or Mata's if not better. And like the person you are having a discussion with, they fall back on that one chipped pass last season or that one eye of the needle pass in that one game to prove their point.Who considers Martial a creative passer? When people talk of his qualities it's never one I hear mentioned.
Pretty sure those people are in the minority.Some people in Martial performance thread have told me that Martial's creative passing is same as Mkhi or Mata's if not better. And like the person you are having a discussion with, they fall back on that one chipped pass last season or that one eye of the needle pass in that one game to prove their point.
In your opinion. Rashford does well when he plays, which is why he gets game time. Martial did well from the bench the first few games which is why he wound up in the starting XI.when Martial deserves to play.
Not saying Rashford doesn't deserve to start, ideally I'd play Martial and Rashford.In your opinion. Rashford does well when he plays, which is why he gets game time. Martial did well from the bench the first few games which is why he wound up in the starting XI.
The fact is that both have done very well at different periods and you can make a convincing case for either.
I didn't mean to suggest Martial needs more space, but he's the one of the two I want benefitting from the spaces a tired defence leaves towards the end of a match.I still don't get this argument about Martial needing more space than Rashford.
Everyone is in unanimous agreement that Martial is the better dribbler and has better close control and Rashford relies more on pace.
So how then can it be that Martial requires more space?
Imo, it's the other way round. It's Rashford that relies on space to use his pace and run into.
How many times have we seen Rashford run the ball out of play?
On the general point, I think Jose will keep rotating both but at some point, he will have to get both playing together.
Martial was 19 when he joined, he's now 21. Not much room to grow after that unless you are a late bloomer. Rashford is a year or two younger and just stopped by the look of it. It's also completely normal to not grow much beyond 16/18. Some men have incredible growth spurts whilst others do not.For me it goes down to hard work and growth. Comparing Rashford and Martial, i find Rashford's growth is immense, from that 179 cm skinny boy into 185 cm physical beast. His running is more constant over the years, getting less tired and harder to knock out of possession. His off season training videos in Instagram shows how much work he put into his body, that is very impressive.
Martial however looks the same, the only difference is he made less mistakes due to Mourinho's coaching. For an 18 year old coming to the club and not showing any physical improvement is a bit worrying for me. Just my opinion.
But it's nice to see this friendly rivalry, just like back in the days with Rooney v Ronaldo.
Only problem is that they are both so good that none of them will settle for rotating for long. Either they start playing together or one of them will move on. That is as sure as the talent they possess.This debate is still going on ? What's the reason behind it ? Instead we should be pleased we have such 2 young talents occupying the left wing position. They can secure this position for years.
Anyway, they both have their advantages. Rashford has overall better movements on the pitch, while Martial is better in 1 vs 1 situations and has better finishing. Their style of play is different but they both have the ability to cause havoc in the opposition defense, either by Rashford's movement and pace or by Martial's skills in taking on players.
I'm really happy to have these 2 in this position. The 2 are very young, have great talent and are still improving. I wanted LW in the summer but after watching both I changed my opinion. This position will be secured for years by them. They will become better and better as the years pass. We should focus our efforts to upgrade the right flank.
