[Amar__]

No, he's not, our midfield is non existant defensively, and he is offering very little in attack too. Not the worst one, but he is still a problem. When is he going to be an attacking threat if he is already pushing so high?

 

[Classical Mechanic]

He gets a lot of stick and he shouldn't be playing for Manchester United, the sad thing is he is a much better player than a lot of the ones getting games for us at the moment.

 

[Mike09]

He had a good first half I thought. Work his shocks off. Keep it up in second half.

 

[FC Ronaldo]

No, he's not, our midfield is non existant defensively, and he is offering very little in attack too. Not the worst one, but he is still a problem. When is he going to be an attacking threat if he is already pushing so high?

Agreed. The late runners have been there all half for Liverpool to cause us havoc. Carrick has been there to try and fight it, Fellaini has not. For that, despite some good fleeting moments, he cannot be rated as having a good game overall. I don't understand what people are watching to suggest otherwise on the whole.

 

[kouroux]

No, he's not, our midfield is non existant defensively, and he is offering very little in attack too. Not the worst one, but he is still a problem. When is he going to be an attacking threat if he is already pushing so high?

I agree with this. Liverpool have had way too easy running at the defense because they have an entire highway in midfield with zero protection whatsoever. The expectations have been set so low with him that a nice touch here and there turns into a "great match".

 

[Godfather]

Our best midfielder out there today. Make of that what you want.

 

[Amar__]

I think even their counterattack for the goal came because he pushed high and left the midfield wide open when Marttial tried to play him. Or was that before the goal?

 

[Classical Mechanic]

I think even their counterattack for the goal came because he pushed high and left the midfield way open when Martial couldn't pass the ball to him. Or was that before the goal?

At the end of the day no full back should get skinned like that off a player of Coutinho's stature, it was a simple drag past Varela, shocking defending.

 

[Cheesy]

Yeah, I'm still not seeing the idea that he's had a particularly good performance, unless not completely fecking everything up is now enough to qualify. He's not really offered anything creatively, certainly. He isn't consistently creating dangerous chances. He isn't taking players on, or taking efforts himself. He isn't knocking dangerous long balls to Rashford which would unsettle the Liverpool defence. He's hardly controlling/dictating the game. That'd be fine if we were getting his physical presence...but we're not. He hasn't really done much in the box from set pieces, for example.

He's also a massive liability postionally. I noticed at some point in the game we looked very suspect and open whenever Liverpool progressed forward...and it's probably in some part due to the midfield. Fellaini's box to box sometimes, but in a really inconvenient way. Like...he kind of just wanders around wherever he feels like. In particular, he enjoys occupying the position of a central midfield full-back, somewhere between our midfield and left-back. He wanders back at an incredibly leisurely pace, and isn't offering any danger in an attacking sense.

He did have a really nice moment when he kept the ball in after a long ball to create a chance that was then missed, but again, not much apart from that. Not as bad as Sunday though.

 

[Theon]

Very good so far and comfortably one of our best players.

 

[Mrs Smoker]

Very good so far and comfortably one of our best players.

Yep, he and Carrick are smooth today.

 

[Snow]

He had a good first half I thought. Work his shocks off. Keep it up in second half.

He didn't do much work when Henderson got into the best chance of the game.

 

[Snow]

Yep, he and Carrick are smooth today.

I think the two make use defensively frail at the back without offering too much up front. They're too slow to deal with the Liverpool players and don't manage to close the space in midfield well enough which has left us open too much.

 

[Di Maria's angel]

I agree with this. Liverpool have had way too easy running at the defense because they have an entire highway in midfield with zero protection whatsoever. The expectations have been set so low with him that a nice touch here and there turns into a "great match".

Carrick is lucky he gets excused everytime.

In fact, its great to see any midfielder that partners him never has any blame. All Fellainis fault. Its not Fellainis fault Carrick is not faster than a snail and lets everyone walk past him.

Fellaini has done his job brilliantly. Hes been a great outlet and linked midfield to attack really well. Carrick on the other hand has let everyone waltz past him. Were playing one DM and its Carricks job to protect our defense, but hes failed time and time again.

 

[Classical Mechanic]

Carrick has been decent tonight IMO. Passing has been progressive and he has looked after the ball. Fellani, a mixed bag as usual.

 

[Cheesy]

Carrick is lucky he gets excused everytime.

In fact, its great to see any midfielder that partners him never has any blame. All Fellainis fault. Its not Fellainis fault Carrick is not faster than a snail and lets everyone walk past him.

Fellaini has done his job brilliantly. Hes been a great outlet and linked midfield to attack really well. Carrick on the other hand has let everyone waltz past him. Were playing one DM and its Carricks job to protect our defense, but hes failed time and time again.

This is daft, though. Players like Carrick and Schneiderlin have been getting criticised regularly for their poor performances. Just look at how many people are saying Carrick is done.

 

[kouroux]

Carrick is lucky he gets excused everytime.

In fact, its great to see any midfielder that partners him never has any blame. All Fellainis fault. Its not Fellainis fault Carrick is not faster than a snail and lets everyone walk past him.

Fellaini has done his job brilliantly. Hes been a great outlet and linked midfield to attack really well. Carrick on the other hand has let everyone waltz past him. Were playing one DM and its Carricks job to protect our defense, but hes failed time and time again.

This is the Fellaini thread so no reason to mention Carrick('s poor performance) in here. Fellaini has been poor IMHO. I must be watching another match really.

 

[Dans]

That could have been a red. Tit.

 

[El Zoido]

He elbows at least one player every game, it's ridiculous.

 

[ha_rooney]

He's an idiot.

 

[XdanielredX]

WHY IS HE STILL PLAYING!??!

Schweinsteiger, Schneiderlin, Herrera...

NO, LETS PLAY FELLAINI

feck Van Gaal if Herrera leaves...

 

[Sandikan]

"Lovren is the latest player to be elbowed by Fellaini".

At least the text to the game has a sense of humour

 

[Vilev]

He has been okay, the problem is today we needed something much better than "okay".

 

[devilish]

The Leo Messi of elbowing

 

[harms]

the sad thing is he is a much better player than a lot of the ones getting games for us at the moment

Name one.

 

[forevrared]

Can't pass, can't tackle, can't shoot, can't dribble. Can elbow. First name on the team sheet. Louis van Gaal's United.

 

[Amar__]

His positioning is one of the most enigmatic things I've seen in football. I will call characterise him as "false winger" from now on.

 

[Winrar]

His positioning is one of the most enigmatic things I've seen in football. I will call characterise him as "false winger" from now on.

you mean false football player

 

[Roboc7]

Better than the weekend at least, should have been sent off though, use of his elbows is disgusting and cowardly though.

 

[buckooo1978]

Just embodies the lack of quality in the team at the minute

He's tried but he's just too limited as a footballer

There's 5 or 6 at least in the team tonight who are simply not good enough

 

[led_scholes]

One of his best games for us so far. Still a 1/10 for a manchester united player. He was even worse than a dead 35 years old. Useless player. Always late for our attacks always late for our defence.

 

[Di Maria's angel]

This is daft, though. Players like Carrick and Schneiderlin have been getting criticised regularly for their poor performances. Just look at how many people are saying Carrick is done.

Hardly. Ive seen this excuse used many a time.

 

[Di Maria's angel]

Just embodies the lack of quality in the team at the minute

He's tried but he's just too limited as a footballer

There's 5 or 6 at least in the team tonight who are simply not good enough

Agreed.

He isnt good enough.

Our players have performed so well today but the bar is low. Too many average players out there.

 

[Rado_N]

Decent first half, reverted to type in the second.

Could honestly get sent off every game he plays. Not a United quality player.

 

[7even]

No more!!!

 

[Classical Mechanic]

Name one.

Rojo, Varela and Lingard are three that played tonight.

 

[OnlyTwoDaSilvas]

Played reasonably well overall, but his constant elbows are never going to go away. He could have been sent off twice tonight and another two times last week.

He's strong enough to win battles without having to attack the other player.

 

[Cheesy]

One of his best games for us so far. Still a 1/10 for a manchester united player. He was even worse than a dead 35 years old. Useless player. Always late for our attacks always late for our defence.

One of the most frustrating aspects of his game. He's often absent in sustained attacks by the opposition where we're barely holding them off and could do with an extra man. But he's also often absent from attacking moves, where he should ideally be lurking on the edge of the area to pick up any spoils, unless he's got a decent opportunity to make his header. Except, sometimes he'll just decide to plonk himself inside the box, like when he was next to Rashford, basically occupying Rashford's space which he was already in himself. It's extremely worrying when one of your players has no basic concept of how to position himself on a football field.

 

[lynchie]

He did what he does to a passable standard. The issue is that he has no diacernible talent whatsoever, and therefore his presence at the heart of a Manchester United team is farcical.

 

[Devil81]

Constantly gives the ball away because he's slow on the ball, having said that he's far from our worst player.