It is completely beyond me how you can allow for poor form an entire season. What is a new season going to do for him? By the same token, his best season was just a purple patch.
Martial agent looking for a new club for him
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
Lets see what a new season will do for him, it's not the first time when players had a poor season and then bounced back. Martial himself did it after his poor season in 2016-17.
If we keep selling players after bad seasons, we would have sold all players by now, including arguably our best player Luke Shaw.
Certainly debatable - both have been quite inconsistent but my opinion is Martial has reached greater heights but greater lows last season, whereas Lukaku was great in that one season.
But Luakaku has done well at striker position before and after United too. Something to consider in their respective price tags.
I'd only be happy with this if Haaland is a guarantee next year. £50m is still a decent fee if true, but IMO we still need him more than the money. We'd start looking a bit lightweight up top without him this year.
I know life isn't FIFA, but imagine Martial sold for £50million, Griezmann in on season long loan with option to buy, and the money used towards signing a top CDM.
I'd be happy with something like this, even with the question marks surrounding Griezmann since his move to Barca. Would be worth a loan for most clubs looking at a forward if they can afford decent wages.
I'd be happy with something like this, even with the question marks surrounding Griezmann since his move to Barca. Would be worth a loan for most clubs looking at a forward if they can afford decent wages.
I'd have bitten their hands off for £50million....if Rashford weren't injured. As inconsistent and frustrating as Martial has been, we are going to need him for the opening months of the season.
I didn’t know they had a new strip coming out
Nah Lukaku was the worst striker I’ve seen play at this club. Martial is frankly miles better to my mind!
Martial was useless last season but in 2019/20 I thought he was better than Lukaku was at any point for us.
If teams are going to happily keep paying £40-50m for Liverpool and Chelsea rejects who've barely had one good game and offer peanuts for our players who have proven their quality before, then feck them all off and just stockpile the talent. I would rather keep Martial in the hope he reproduces his 2019/20 form than let him go for the price of a horse shit sandwich when clubs are happy to help out our rivals by taking their unwanted rubbish.
If teams are going to happily keep paying £40-50m for Liverpool and Chelsea rejects who've barely had one good game and offer peanuts for our players who have proven their quality before, then feck them all off and just stockpile the talent. I would rather keep Martial in the hope he reproduces his 2019/20 form than let him go for the price of a horse shit sandwich when clubs are happy to help out our rivals by taking their unwanted rubbish.
He didn't use the words "form" though. For me its about giving him one more chance with a fresh season and see how it goes.
Not at all. We have enough players to not need Martial even without Rashford, and 50m pounds are more important - we can buy a midfielder with these monies
Well that might be true, and I might agree with you, but in the market Lukaku is worth a lot more.
I am no fan of Lukaku myself and certainly have backed Martial's potential. But in actual performances, won't agree with "miles better". Anyways neither have done what a Manchester United striker should do, Cavani has amply showed that.
At least we have moved up to 50 million from 35 which is progress from the cafe.
Imo my huge worry is that next season we cant get rid of him, this might be a rare opportunity to ditch him. I would hate having him in the squad for years just because we can't offload him.
what is more, we need to discontinue relying on “good” players here. Just good is not good enough for United - and Martial is paid as a star player, not as a rotation option. He is obviously not good enough for his salary level
very good pointWe'd be playing Sancho - Cavani - Greenwood every game without the luxury of rotating them. Cavani probably can't play every game and Greenwood is still a youngster. The only players we have to rotate with them are the likes of Dan James and Amad. While we could probably make do with that depth, having Martial as an option definitely boosts us, and still gives us the competition we need for those front three positions.
How come? We will play Pogba off the left on a regular basis, to start with.
Then there are also such players as Lingard, Amad and (if not sold) James who can get some minutes every now and then, maybe even Hannibal and Elanga. We didn’t sell Mata either…
100%. Lack of rotation was what made us trail off last season - still need Martial
Sell him, you don't keep players that have consistently gone through long periods of bad form. I'd rather give his minutes to Amad, Elanga.
Chances are he has another poor season and we'd have to sell for a reduced fee.
Chances are he has another poor season and we'd have to sell for a reduced fee.
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I'd take £50 million for him. That's most of what we paid for him, which is great in this Covid era where no one's got any money.
Think people are forgetting this.
Crazy the underrating of Martial here. 'Barely looks like a footballer'? . Wow.
Selling an experienced PL league only to play young kids in his place would be absolute madness. Ole is excellent at blooding youth. They need to be given chances, without the weight of massive expectation. People on the caf would sell a massively talented player with years of experience, who can play LW or CF, and leave us an injury or two away from playing a forward line of James/elanga, Greenwood and Amad ?
They are all good players to different degrees, even James in my opinion, but it isn't the kind of forward line that will have the likes of Chelsea and City defence shitting themselves.
Selling an experienced PL league only to play young kids in his place would be absolute madness. Ole is excellent at blooding youth. They need to be given chances, without the weight of massive expectation. People on the caf would sell a massively talented player with years of experience, who can play LW or CF, and leave us an injury or two away from playing a forward line of James/elanga, Greenwood and Amad ?
They are all good players to different degrees, even James in my opinion, but it isn't the kind of forward line that will have the likes of Chelsea and City defence shitting themselves.
I did, tbf.
He’s going nowhere this season but he can go next season when we get Haaland 
I doubt Martial leaves them shitting themselves either to be honest...
When they see Martial's name on the teamsheet, them defenders know there's a good chance of a relaxed day. No need to run too much.
I think it's because we all wouldn't want that to be the case in our ideal lineups, but the reality is that is where he fits in our side with Bruno.
50m for Tony. I would personally drive him to Italy and deliver him for that.
If Inter pay 50m for Martial I'll eat several hats. Can't see it.
Its not guaranteed we'll keep Pogba this summer, and if he stays I don't get the impression he'd be played on the left anyway. It looks like we'll be playing a 4-3-3 next season, so Pogba will almost certainly be playing as an 8. James and Mata will be bench options at best, Lingard will be sold if he get a decent offer.
Pogba has been playing exactly the same way since before Bruno, hence people calling him lazy at times. Same with Martial. We've had people who put in tons of effort since before Bruno, like Fred, Rashford, James, etc.
He was excellent last season against City. Best player on the pitch in that game.
Pogba is more efficient off the left in this setup
Yep its laughable, i very much doubt anyone would buy him for £30m. I would happily sell for £25m at this stage if someone were willing to take on his massive wage otherwise he is just going to be more deadwood
He had one good game all season and was otherwise atrocious
If Rashford was fit then I'd say this could happen but he's out for a while and we don't have suitable cover.
I'd be the camp of giving him another season, if he has one like he did last season then show him the door next summer.
I'd be the camp of giving him another season, if he has one like he did last season then show him the door next summer.
And you have Cavani as your only CF option? How many games can he play?
Because bad as Martial has been, he is our only other CF option as he has actually performed well in that role beyond more than a couple of games, whereas no other one of our players (apart from Cavani) seem remotely comfortable in that position.