Martial agent looking for a new club for him

golden_blunder said:
New haircut = change of attitude this season?

I think we all know a focused martial is fantastic but an unfocused one may as well play a kid
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Its interesting to see how he reacts to less competition. Rashford being gone for the next months, opens the door for Martial to start every time. Its up to him to take this chance.
This season, unless he gets sold of course, is make or break. Last season was bad from Martial, but the prior season he was fantastic.

Personally I think he struggles heavily with confidence and he seems to be at his best without competition. Pretty much the opposite of Shaw.
If my belief is true, though, that would mean he is not fit for United. We should always try to be at the very top, and top clubs need several great players for each spot, and players who are hungry and get motivated by competition.
 
200 fantasy points this season.
With Sancho and rested Bruno he is gonna be POTM at some point.
 
golden_blunder said:
Shaved head
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Ok, that would suggest a new aggressive approach, rid of the distractions of any barnet whatsoever so that he can fully focus on the job in hand…either that or he had a shocking case of nits and his mum buzz cut him before sending him off to training.
 
Don't want to sell him unless we plan to replace him with a good striker in this window, which looks very unlikely.

Cavani was very good for us, but he's an year older, and has had injury problems in the past. Greenwood I'm not convinced can take up the CF mantle yet. With Rashford out for 3 months, we don't have a lot of quality options upfront.

Best case scenario is he performs decently for us, and we can sell him next window when we get a wc striker.
 
I think he will have very good season, like 2019-20 season. We also have lot of competition for places which should push all the attacking players to up their game.
 
Martial is inconsistent but he's a tremendous player when on form. With Cavani being one year older, Rashford being injured and Diallo/Elanga being inexperienced, Id say we should keep him for another year. If we need the money then we can always sell James and Lingard who are far worse players then he is. Next year Rashford would hopefully be fit, Greenwood would have had enough time upfront to make the position his own and Elanga/Diallo will be one year older. At that point we can take our decision regarding Martial.
 
Mickeza said:
Of all the absolute cock written on here the idea Aston Villa or even Spurs wouldn’t want Martial really does take the fecking biscuit.
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Its same for every player isn't it. Many said Lingard isn't good enough to be a regular PL player for decent club, he was one of best player for West Ham who finished in very decent position.

People said Lukaku won't be signed by top club, he won Serie A with Inter, same with players like Young, Darmian.

Now it's Martial's turn. Apparently Fred and McTominay are the worst in top 10 clubs.
 
Mickeza said:
Of all the absolute cock written on here the idea Aston Villa or even Spurs wouldn’t want Martial really does take the fecking biscuit.
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roonster09 said:
Its same for every player isn't it. Many said Lingard isn't good enough to be a regular PL player for decent club, he was one of best player for West Ham who finished in very decent position.

People said Lukaku won't be signed by top club, he won Serie A with Inter, same with players like Young, Darmian.

Now it's Martial's turn. Apparently Fred and McTominay are the worst in top 10 clubs.
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If you ask me, the problem with us selling players are

a- we ask too much for our players in terms of fees. 30m for Lingard is ridiculous expecially considering he's got 1 year left in his contract
b- Most of our players are on a ridiculous salary. For example DDG is the most paid goalkeeper in the world.

Having said that, most would do well at other EPL clubs.

Regarding McFred the issue here is that they are two players doing the same job. They aren't the Keane/Kante level of DM who can shoulder all the defensive duties left by Pogba singlehandedly (ie McT or Fred on their own) However if we replace Pogba with a defensive playmaker such as Neves or Locatelli then I believe that we'll be fine.
 
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I’d imagine the plan is this. Cavani number 1. Martial back up. 2022/23 Cavani leaves, buy Haaland/Mbappe number 1, Martial back up until Greenwood removes him. I doubt we’ll be selling him until there is genuine replacements.

Hopefully he has a good year and one not interrupted with suspensions and injuries. I really want to see the link up with Sancho, DVB and Amad.
 
I feel that Martial just happens to be one of those that need extrinsic motivation from time to time to perform (case it point - managed to be up for it when playing the noisy neighbours last year) and I'm unsure if he'll ever grow out of it.

The mixture of playing 2 punishing seasons on the bounce plus the lack of charged fans on your back either cheering/jeering is probably the worst combination for such a player, which is why I think he'll be very good this season as things return to normality.

All that said, the above is why it's risky relying on such a player as the main striker for such a big club, and thus, our current setup should hopefully work well in the interim i.e. sharing the role with an experienced and exemplary Cavani who shouldn't play every game; meaning Martial has the confidence that he will get opportunities to impress, but will also be kept honest by Cavani's hungry performances.
 
Andersons Dietician said:
I’d imagine the plan is this. Cavani number 1. Martial back up. 2022/23 Cavani leaves, buy Haaland/Mbappe number 1, Martial back up until Greenwood removes him. I doubt we’ll be selling him until there is genuine replacements.

Hopefully he has a good year and one not interrupted with suspensions and injuries. I really want to see the link up with Sancho, DVB and Amad.
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He's earning too much to be a backup. The club will want to move him on if they feel he's not going to be a starter.
 
roonster09 said:
Its same for every player isn't it. Many said Lingard isn't good enough to be a regular PL player for decent club, he was one of best player for West Ham who finished in very decent position.

People said Lukaku won't be signed by top club, he won Serie A with Inter, same with players like Young, Darmian.

Now it's Martial's turn. Apparently Fred and McTominay are the worst in top 10 clubs.
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Sounds like the problem lies in us not being able to get the best out of our players which is why I feel that is constantly buying better player is only the short term fix.
 
elmo said:
He's earning too much to be a backup. The club will want to move him on if they feel he's not going to be a starter.
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He earns 180k the rest in bonuses if certain criteria is met. Don’t let this Caf nonsense he’s on 250k a week fool you.
 
elmo said:
Sounds like the problem lies in us not being able to get the best out of our players which is why I feel that is constantly buying better player is only the short term fix.
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Why is it our fault that these players can't deal with playing for United?
 
roonster09 said:
I think he will have very good season, like 2019-20 season. We also have lot of competition for places which should push all the attacking players to up their game.
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Isn't he up for sale.? His agent looking for new club for him, is what Sky sports are saying.
 
Bestietom said:
Isn't he up for sale.? His agent looking for new club for him, is what Sky sports are saying.
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I don't think so. I haven't seen any reliable journalists reporting this. Ducker, Luckhurst and others posted list of players we are trying to sell, none of them mentioned Martial in their list. I might be wrong but I don't remember anyone saying his name at all.
 
elmo said:
He's earning too much to be a backup. The club will want to move him on if they feel he's not going to be a starter.
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Economics are a factor these days since players are paid proportionately more now.

But to win the league, our back-up players need to be as good as our first choice players, more or less. They have to be good enough to challenge to break into the team and actually get in the team on merit if the incumbents drop their level.

In that sense we have to ask if Martial is good enough to be back up and not ask if he is cheap enough.
 
When you shave you're head you feel more aggresive. This might work well for Martial because he has been lacking a bit of steel. Hope he gets of to a flyer.
 
Actually looking forward to Martial, Greenwood and Cavani duking it out for the no9 spot this season. Will be plenty of games to watch them with all the cups.
 
elmo said:
The club clearly feels the same as you considering all the ridiculous salaries they're giving to players who they're trying to sell.
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Are they trying to sell him though or did one outlet say something that created this thread. Like many have said when ever it’s talked about selling players from more reputable journos his name isn’t mentioned. Thinking it through also it makes no sense to sell him unless we are buying another striker. Which will happen next year when Cavani leaves and we’ll go for Haaland
 
elmo said:
He's earning too much to be a backup. The club will want to move him on if they feel he's not going to be a starter.
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I don't think back up should be read as #2 for a GK position. For outfielders, it's more of a rotational players unless we are talking about players like James last season, Matic.

So from the other post, I think it means he will be in a position like B.Silva, Mahrez who are not first choice but they are also not back ups. They are rotated in and out of the side.
 
Idxomer said:
The only way I could see him leaving is if Spurs sell Kane, get desperate in the last weak of the transfer window and offer something stupid like 60m.

Otherwise, he's staying and this thread's source is one of the biggest bullshit merchants around.
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It would be foolish to sell Martial this late even for £60m.

Selll him and buy Danny ings for 30m? Why put ourselves in that position?
 
I can't see him leaving this summer. Perhaps next summer he'll be sold if we get a marquee centre forward signing.

With Rashford out for around 12 weeks and Cavani's age, he'll get plenty of game time.
 
Selling him would be stupid and tbf I gave up on him some time ago now. Rashford will start for us out left, but he's out for a considerable amount of time. Even though I think Mason is ahead of Martial and Sancho will be too, he is good rotation for the CF and LW position, especially early on in the season when we have no Marcus.
 
EdinburghDevil said:
I can't see him leaving this summer. Perhaps next summer he'll be sold if we get a marquee centre forward signing.

With Rashford out for around 12 weeks and Cavani's age, he'll get plenty of game time.
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He has got his chances, if we can get 50/60m for him I would let him go now.
 
golden_blunder said:
New haircut = change of attitude this season?

I think we all know a focused martial is fantastic but an unfocused one may as well play a kid
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We will find out if this lasts for very long. If he is focused and fit, he can make a contribution, if not then yes, we might be better off playing a youngster.
 
Tweet tonight saying Inter want Martial on Loan and United will agree but Inter Must agree to buy him at end of season.

I really can't see that happening.
 
choccy77 said:
Tweet tonight saying Inter want Martial on Loan and United will agree but Inter Must agree to buy him at end of season.

I really can't see that happening.
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(Hopefully) Inter to the rescue again!
 
Can't see anything happening with Martial until January. While Rashford is out from the surgery, he'll be back in the left wing role.
 
Gambit said:
Can't see anything happening with Martial until January. While Rashford is out from the surgery, he'll be back in the left wing role.
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Not as a starter. Greenwood is better right than martial is left, so sancho will start left wing, Greenwood right. Martial on the bench.
 
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