What's the difference between going to Holland and going to Germany for instance? Isn't that more or less the same?
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What's the difference between going to Holland and going to Germany for instance? Isn't that more or less the same?
That Real move was the worst career move in history. A move to Ajax or Dortmund would have been something to help him progress, hell even staying in Norway would have been better. Threw away the most important developing years .
Well, except for the £80k a week he earns.
It is not the same to play against Bayern and Borussia than against Ajax or PSV.Fortuna,Alkmaar,Breda..
Look how well Achraf is doing in Germany, meanwhile we only know about Odegaard when he scored goals (I think in 2017 there was also a news from him for a nice free kick). In any case, I think the idea was to go to Leganés as Óscar Rodríguez or a similar team
Yes but he would have been earing that or more for 10 years plus instead he will have to play for 5k the rest of his career.
Is that serious? Eredivisie is shit and has been for several years now as shown by how bad their teams have been in Europe.
No, I agree with you on that. I mean in terms of being close to Norway. I think it would be more or less the same if he played for Cologne or Dortmund for instance.
You have no clue any of that would happen.
Oh. I thought you meant in league ability
Ah ok,I misunderstood.Yes,It's basically the same.
Here It's the article where I read about his father
https://www.abc.es/deportes/real-ma...rsa-talento-apagado-201808260057_noticia.html
Edit: I don't know what happen these last days with the links, always the message "the page doesn't exist"
No of course I dont but the way things are going and going by how youth is normally treated by Real its not that far fetched.
It's incredibly far fetched. You've claimed playing in the Norwegian league is better than receiving the highest level of training at Real, training with the best players in the world and also getting regular game time in the third tier of Spanish football. Which is complete non-sense in itself. You've then claimed this is such a massive difference that he was guaranteed to become a top player before but now spending a couple of years at Madrid means he has no chance of even making it in a top league. It's not just far fetched but just downright nonsense.
He'd have been miles better off joining Ajax or Dortmund, if you put aside the economic aspect. These kind of clubs would have done everything to help him reach his potential, the likes of Madrid were never going to do that, was always going to be some crappy loan moves etc which are nowhere as beneficial to a player as playing for his mother club.
Those loans must be studied well and sometimes it is not done. In the case of Lunin it has been a disaster, and apparently they are going to look for another destination.
I think that in Rayo, Villarreal, he could get 20/25 matches. I agreed to stop him and be calm but now he has to dare more
Ok whatever suits your agenda.
Going to Real instead of going to Ajax or Dortmund was a terrible move for his development even if you try to point out that playing in third tier spanish league might do him the world of good. Real has not been known for nurturing talent and its very likely that this move was finacially or status motivated. Sadly it hasnt done him any good career wise so of course it easy for me to point to it but at the time of his move I said as much.
The Norwegian league point still stands for me he was already playing there at the age of 16 and would have gained experiance playing games in a very competitive league. Playing there for two more years and then move to Germany or Holland wouldnt have hurt him at all.
I am no Nostradamus and he might get back on track but sadly he looks very mediocre in the Dutch league even after training with all those stars and playing in the mighty third tier in Spain.
Exactly. It's not like he's tearing the Eredivisie apart. It's just his level and I'm not sure why he should be ready for the next step.
It's actually not as bad as it seems either. In the current squad all of Casemiro, Marcelo, Carvajal, Nacho, Lucas Vázquez, Reguilón, Mariano, Valverde, Casilla, Vinicius
and Llorente played for Castilla, thus 11 players. The real problem is that you have to be among the absolute best to triumph there and that happens very rarely.I agree you have to be the absolute best to have a chance and I am not sure Ødegaard was.It's actually not as bad as it seems either. In the current squad all of Casemiro, Marcelo, Carvajal, Nacho, Lucas Vázquez, Reguilón, Mariano, Valverde, Casilla, Vinicius
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Been really good the past month or so.
He's become way better at asserting himself in matches the past year or so. I still think he might become one of football's biggest attractions. His vision and passing is tremendous, coupled with great technique.
His final day as a teenager. Feels like he has been a teen forever.
Rest of this season is vital for him. He has said that he isn't interested in more loan spells so this is probably the last shot he has to prove he is worthy of an opportunity at Real. I doubt they'll keep him but if he can continue this recent form I'm sure the likes of Ajax and possibly even Dortmund would be interested in the summer.
Rest of this season is vital for him. He has said that he isn't interested in more loan spells so this is probably the last shot he has to prove he is worthy of an opportunity at Real. I doubt they'll keep him but if he can continue this recent form I'm sure the likes of Ajax and possibly even Dortmund would be interested in the summer.
The Vindicator of Vitesse.
You can see that he's special. If he learns to utilize his footballing abilities properly he's got a very very high ceiling. Possibly the highest of all youngsters out there currently making head lines..
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As for todays situation Ødegaard is not a Manchester United quality player and we dont need more ifs!
I don't know what is Real Madrid thinking back then offering an unproven 16 year old teenager £80k a week, yet they tried to lowball on Mbappe's salary who is already highly regarded as the world's best teenager and proven himself on the biggest stage. Hindsight is a bitch. This couldn't be such a huge contrast in comparison. Was this kid even that good in the first place to get all those hype? Maybe Odegaard himself knew he wasn't that good in the first place, so he took the money to join Real Madrid instead of going to a club like Ajax or Dortmund for his development. Fair play to him, he's a millionaire now and he can retire back home in Norway.
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Very well put. Fully agree. Good luck to the Odegaards.
He clearly has talent but lets not forget he plays in the Eredivisie. The Eredivisie is really really bad. It is PSV and Ajax and after that a lot of nothing. After a lot of nothing there is subtop with Feyenoord, AZ and Utrecht and after that it is just really really bad.
It is poor after PSV and Ajax granted. I think The Championship is a harder league. That said, it’s a good starting point for talented youngsters.
The amount of 7-0 and 5-0 games are insane they do not care about defense in that league.
PSV and Ajax already have +50 GD.
Ya it's a joke I understand that they are the two top clubs ( as well as Feyenoord ) but do teams just not know how to stay back? In Portugal the smaller clubs make it hell for the big 3 at times very defensive minded football.
Its not any different in Eredivisie. All teams park the bus against PSV and Ajax; it's just that the quality difference, especially this year, is night and day. They simply cannot hold ground.
Besides not every manager parks the bus as good as Jose
It is not just this season for years now the most average of players can bang in 20 goals in the Eredivisie. But like I said the dutch are not really known for their defense.Its not any different in Eredivisie. All teams park the bus against PSV and Ajax; it's just that the quality difference, especially this year, is night and day. They simply cannot hold ground.
Besides not every manager parks the bus as good as Jose
But at the same time some of the top defenders who have been signed outside the top 5 leagues on recent years come from there.
I was talking the teams as a whole not individual players. The league is an attack based league. PSV and Ajax have both a +50 GD.
Yes it is even less balanced than in Portugal and I have the idea the last placed team tries to play the same way as Ajax, I know it isn't like that but still strange. Not that I know these days the GD of the top teams in Portugal, shows how much I watch unless Sporting is playing, and that only after Peseiro.
Vitesse struggling to see off the Kozakken boys, up pops Ødegaard in the 93rd minute.
Lovely to see him finally delivering when it matters, even if it’s against lower opposition. Seems to have taken serious strides in terms of consistency and involvement.
Lovely to see him finally delivering when it matters, even if it’s against lower opposition. Seems to have taken serious strides in terms of consistency and involvement.
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Impressive showing.
Need to move somewhere else though, he is never getting into that Real Madrid squad unless he literally becomes the best player in the Eredivisie, just playing good there isn't gonna give him the credibility he'd need to get into their squad.
Need to move somewhere else though, he is never getting into that Real Madrid squad unless he literally becomes the best player in the Eredivisie, just playing good there isn't gonna give him the credibility he'd need to get into their squad.